Can you tell me which space combat games have better dogfighting? I'm serious, ED has its faults but the combat is the best I've ever seen in a space sim so if you can tell me of another then I'd love to play it.
There's no dogfighting in this game and combat is god-awful...
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Can you tell me which space combat games have better dogfighting? I'm serious, ED has its faults but the combat is the best I've ever seen in a space sim so if you can tell me of another then I'd love to play it.
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What upgraded NPCs???? :O
Troy_McClure
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I didn't notice any difference from your usual posts
You do realize if you oblige the AI in its turn fightery, must point nose at enemy no matter the cost, you can actually chase each other in a loop for the rest of your life (or until you run out of fuel)... right? Sure, that speaks more to the AI than the parts of the combat model, but I think that's really what he's talking about here anyway.
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Good points sir. I agree with all of it. Although, the Anaconda is surprisingly good at 'pitch fighting' anyway. The whole thing has always struck me as odd, but I accepted it long ago and just deal with it.
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There is no such thing as "dogfighting" in the modern era. all engagements happen at long range with missiles and high-grade radar and sensor systems. Which is, of course, the irony of E
, Star Citizen and other games. People keep complaining about realism without understanding that the most basic element of its combat systems has been outdated since the 1970s. Yet 2000 years from now, we've somehow regressed in combat? No, dogfighting is in the game because it's a GAME and it's fun to dogfight. Realism be damned.But no, there is no dog-fighting anymore. In the current modern era, you're dead long before you ever see an F-15, F-22, M-29, Su-27, etc. The only ships you'll see actually use cannons is a Warthog when offering close ground support, and then it's for attacking ground targets. Those planes have been retired afaik, in the US military though may be in use elsewhere.
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I suspect he means ones where yaw isn't nerfed and you can just turret in space like an FPS. Ironically the fact that kind of dogfighting is so boring and tedious is one of the reasons yaw is nerfed in the first place in Elite.
i don't think your response is in relation to my post. Was that a mistake?
I loved playing the X series - for me they're some of the best space sims around but 'dogfighting' consisted of simply stopping and letting the other ships fly into you. Fun.
It's not you.
It's me?
Sighs, humans are weird.
I think I just got dumped again...and I wasn't even in a relationship.
It's probably your tendency to eat planets while flailing your terrifying banana tentacles into the void, if your file photo is to be believed. :BI think I just got dumped again...and I wasn't even in a relationship.
That is until you learn about actual dogfighting maneuvers designed to break out of turn fights and get you behind the enemy at the same time.
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If you're doing anything more than a quarter turn against the AI with any regularity, chances are that you are doing something horribly wrong.
Jousting matches against the AI only happen when you allow them to happen (with certain ships it's a great strategy). Circle chases against the AI only happen when your dogfighting skills are weak.
There is no shame in this. It's simply that you aren't quite on the level of mastery that you believe yourself to be. Rejoice! You have a lot to learn and there's a great potential of fun in there both while you're learning and after you've mastered a few skills.
I have a simple motto in gaming that has served me well- "No excuses. Play like a champion."
Jousting matches against the AI only happen when you allow them to happen (with certain ships it's a great strategy). Circle chases against the AI only happen when your dogfighting skills are weak.
There is no shame in this. It's simply that you aren't quite on the level of mastery that you believe yourself to be. Rejoice! You have a lot to learn and there's a great potential of fun in there both while you're learning and after you've mastered a few skills.
I have a simple motto in gaming that has served me well- "No excuses. Play like a champion."
Errrrr...you must be on wrong forums for another game then yeah.... thanks for dropping by, but I think you need to find the forum for the game you play.
I'm not eating your planets, merely hugging them.
Why can't you humans ever understand this...
Aliens are so misunderstood.
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There is no such thing as "dogfighting" in the modern era. all engagements happen at long range with missiles and high-grade radar and sensor systems. Which is, of course, the irony of E
But no, there is no dog-fighting anymore. In the current modern era, you're dead long before you ever see an F-15, F-22, M-29, Su-27, etc. The only ships you'll see actually use cannons is a Warthog when offering close ground support, and then it's for attacking ground targets. Those planes have been retired afaik, in the US military though may be in use elsewhere.
Now
Hold on sir.
next you are going to tell me all sci-fiction first person shooters, somehow revolve around weapons from the second world war.
Plasma pistols,
Sonic Shotguns
Plasma repeater guns
High-powered slow to recharge zoomable rifle (works the lenght of the map which is 100m in length)
Thermal Handgrenade.
That somehow all space battle revolve around troopers on the ground,
who if they had any sense would say something like
"I say we take off and Nuke the site from Orbit, it's the only way to be sure"
Clearly, the OP is playing SC.
ED combat is excellent. There's a ship and style to suite nearly everyone.
Engineers are pretty good now too, I wouldn't say they're the best thing ever, but they're a good reason to keep playing the game.
ED combat is excellent. There's a ship and style to suite nearly everyone.
Engineers are pretty good now too, I wouldn't say they're the best thing ever, but they're a good reason to keep playing the game.
Ah, the 'git gud' argument. Unfortunately, without explanation or demonstration, it doesn't serve you very well in my eyes. Show me how it's done, in a ship that isn't 7-9 agility. I've always been curious to see these mythical instances of people being glued to Elite Anaconda engines without taking damage.
Hun if you think your words are harsh you should see me on a bad day when I respond to topics like this.
I'd roast you Essay style.
As it stands you picked up a game on two systems without giving a try on one expecting the moon and found it wasn't there.
So good luck on your hunt.