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[Jockey79]

... Were talking about Player factions.....

No such thing as "player factions", only NPCs that either Frontier name or NPCs they let you name.
They are still NPCs regardless of who named them and are available in all modes, as per the Kickstarter design pitch.

If Frontier ever bring out things actually owned by real players, get back to me.

 

[Mohrgan]

Mhmm, That is where the META is. Which we have been over.

Remember when kyokinshin told you its OP? And when something is OP the only way to counter it is by doing that exact same thing?

Welp there it is.

Not to mention half the game doesnt get used here. Why would I throw all those HRP's, Boosters and SCB;s I engineered into a ship. When I can trade to make a difference. Or just kill soft eagles and get the same %'s BGS as an anaconda.

AGAINST the people you are fighting. We arent talking about NPC factions. Were talking about Player factions.

Now, i'd suggest you stop talking. You're only hurting your own side of the argument. And you dont even know it.

None of that matters to anyone but you. Why you do things, or what decisions you make are on you. As are the consequences.

Player factions are exactly the same as NPC factions, but for a name. Players can't direct them, nor control them. They can just support them. Just like you can an NPC faction. Like I do.

If you think my argument is hurting my side, you don't understand my side. And, I know it.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

No such thing as "player factions", only NPCs that either Frontier name or NPCs they let you name.
They are still NPCs regardless of who named them and are available in all modes, as per the Kickstarter design pitch.

If Frontier ever bring out things actually owned by real players, get back to me.

Take a look at colonia. Take a long look at the applications for PMF's. And take a long look at PLAYER CG's.

Get a clue.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Prove it?

I'm sorry, I'm unable to prove you don't even know it, in fact I don't need to. You can dismiss to your heart's content.

But that doesn't stop me chuckling over the irony of it all

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

I'm sorry, I'm unable to prove you don't even know it, in fact I don't need to. You can dismiss to your heart's content.

But that doesn't stop me chuckling over the irony of it all

Thats what I thought. Unless you can prove me wrong in shipbuilds and risk and reward. Go back to exploring.

 

[Jockey79]

Take a look at colonia. Take a long look at the applications for PMF's. And take a long look at PLAYER CG's.

Get a clue.

More clued up than you, as you have not even figured out Colonia is full of NPCs.
Same as the main bubble.

There is a "Mobius" NPC faction, but "Mobius" doesn't own it, does not directly tell it what to do, where to go etc....
Know why?

I'll you why...

It's just NPCs, like all the others!

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Thats what I thought. Unless you can prove me wrong in shipbuilds and risk and reward.

The irony is not about shipbuilds, risk or reward darling.

See? Told you you didn't know

Go back to exploring.

But I'm having fun running circles around you.

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

More clued up than you, as you have not even figured out Colonia is full of NPCs.
Same as the main bubble.

There is a "Mobius" NPC faction, but "Mobius" doesn't own it, does not directly tell it what to do, where to go etc....
Know why?

I'll you why...

It's just NPCs, like all the others!


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What do you think squadrons is gonna be? A user interface? Thats it? You're crazy.

See them trade routes made by commanders in the last update. Hmm??????

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

The irony is not about shipbuilds, risk or reward darling.

See? Told you you didn't know


But I'm having fun running circles around you.

Oh boy you sure got me. Running them circles.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

What do you think squadrons is gonna be?

An excellent vehicle to develop meaningful new PvP mechanics around which are geared from the design phase to accommodate those who enjoy defending, attacking or different types of tactical and strategic manoeuvres against other players. Without interfering with the mechanics that are already in place.

Much better suited than botching up a PvE mechanic to create asymmetric encounters exactly like the ones we already have.

 

[Jockey79]

What do you think squadrons is gonna be? A user interface? Thats it? You're crazy.

See them trade routes made by commanders in the last update. Hmm??????

What has this got to do with how wrong you are over the factions?
Or do you concede the point and admit "player factions" are a myth, and that only NPC factions truly exist?

And you have no idea what "Squadrons" will be, so please don't act like you do.
Plus, we all know it will be available in PGs - so don't forget your promise to quit and leave when that information comes out

 

[Mohrgan]

What do you think squadrons is gonna be? A user interface? Thats it? You're crazy.

See them trade routes made by commanders in the last update. Hmm??????

I know just as much about what Squadrons will be as you do. If FD's past history has any bearing on the matter, it will not be an Open-Only feature. As none of what FD have introduced has ever been open-only content. Nothing, not one pixel. I do hope there are some PvP buckets introduced. I have made what I consider a decent proposal as a framework to do just that.

Those trade routes have nothing to do with PvP, nor are they only accessible in open. I wonder what we can learn from that?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Plus, we all know it will be available in PGs

They will?

Hmm, that would bury one idea I had.

edit: Cripes, I was thinking buyable mega ships. I'd not mind them be Open Only if they are attack-able.

Daft Ziggy is being daft, ignore the they will? question

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

What has this got to do with how wrong you are over the factions?
Or do you concede the point and admit "player factions" are a myth, and that only NPC factions truly exist?

And you have no idea what "Squadrons" will be, so please don't act like you do.
Plus, we all know it will be available in PGs - so don't forget your promise to quit and leave when that information comes out

I know our player group is in the game, we have ships directly related to us. And we influence the system as A PLAYER FACTION by our own actions. Not by the NPC's doing.

Dang, looks like you got forum PVPd again and lost.

There is a reason they call me the champ. Get to the back of the line.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

There is a reason they call me the champ.

When you say: 'they', don't you mean 'I'?

 

[Robert Maynard]

What do you think squadrons is gonna be?

Implemented for all players, not just the apparent minority that prefer direct PvP....

 

[Mohrgan]

I know our player group is in the game, we have ships directly related to us. And we influence the system as A PLAYER FACTION by our own actions. Not by the NPC's doing.

Dang, looks like you got forum PVPd again and lost.

There is a reason they call me the champ. Get to the back of the line.

I support a NPC faction. It has ships directly related to it. And, I influence the system as an Player by my own actions. Not by NPC's doing. How is that any different, except I didin't originally get to choose the factions name?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I support a NPC faction. It has ships directly related to it. And, I influence the system as an Player by my own actions. Not by NPC's doing. How is that any different, except I didin't originally get to choose the factions name?

Dang, you forum PvP'ed and won! You're the new champ Mohrgan. Congratulations!

Hip, hip!

 

[Mohrgan]

Huzzah!

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

Implemented for all players, not just those the apparent minority that prefer direct PvP....

Im sure features will be available by all. And some will have restrictions.

They cant let squadrons fail like powerplay did. Even velociraptors dont strike the same part of the electic fence in the same place...

You did watch jurrasic park didnt ya?

If animals can figure this out in real life as I just used the dinosaurs as a reference.

Then surly the creators of this game. Know better than to repeat the same mistake they made before. Right?