Newcomer / Intro This game is frustrating.

[Ellen_K]

I hate point and click games. I like the style of Elite Dangerous it's why Ive stuck with as long as I have. But I've been getting my butt handed to me from the start. I can't make any lead way. Every time I try I get slapped down. How would you feel if after three weeks you where still in same stupid ship you started and had flat out no really money. Every time you started to make money game throws something at you that ultimatly leads to your death and you end up right back where you started. Imagin how frustrating that would be. Right now I'm hoping Chris Roberts has better game and can offer me a decent fair shot at actually doing something other then lots of dying. I'm sorry for rant but you don't understand how frustrating it is to have 43k Cr in your hand and that be the most money you made the entire time you played only to have it snatched out of your hands because you ran out of oxygen just as you got to star port. All because you were attacked by a Master. I mean for crying out loud throw me a bone and give me some sort of fighting chance but the game has yet to give me that. So why continue playing really. I don't get what all of you see in it.

I died 4 times the first couple of days (I was a bit obsessed and played almost 8 hours per session, felt like a teenager again...). Barely made it from becoming bankrupt, it ate all my hard earned moneys. However, I learnt not fly in to the sun, how to submit to interdiction and boost away but most of all not to get into things I don't have the competence to get out of alive. I know how it feels to lose all progress and get stomped and slapped at by a game, I grew up with NES and Sega... The first time I actually cried and almost rage quit from playing a game was after being pod killed in EVE. But it never made me stop playing, rather the opposite. However, the taste is different, as we all know.

 

[Kiltak]

I am in solo mode. It's not even that I'm bad at combat. Some one had mentioned Eve. I hate Eve Online. It's brilliant game but I hate point and click and is the only reason I hate Eve Online. But I tell you this I sure rather play Eve Online then this game. At least there I have a fair shot out the door. Here all that I have seen is a whole lot of space and not a whole lot of money making. This morning was final straw.

I can't being to explain how much what happen to me this morning just did me in. I spent weeks trying to figure out how to make some sort of stupid profit in this game. Ever way I have seen has been dirt slow including Trading. I finally get my ship out fitted right to actually do combat. I get 43k in bounties only to loose it faster then I built it because game threw something at me that I couldn't escape or defeat. I didn't die fast I died slowly. I had my window blown out and my life support knocked out and oxygen escaping. I had few min to get back to star port and dock. I got all way to port and was getting ready to dock and ran out of time and boom I died. Can you even imagine how that would feel. To finally make some sort of supid progress only to be set back and be back almost at square one.

The look and feel and scope of the game is awesome but it's not enough to make me keep wanting to come back if all I'm going to do is get no where and be destroyed over and over. The game is not any fun any more and it's that simple. I don't see how any one can find the game fun.

 

[Kiltak]

I died 4 times the first couple of days (I was a bit obsessed and played almost 8 hours per session, felt like a teenager again...). Barely made it from becoming bankrupt, it ate all my hard earned moneys. However, I learnt not fly in to the sun, how to submit to interdiction and boost away but most of all not to get into things I don't have the competence to get out of alive. I know how it feels to lose all progress and get stomped and slapped at by a game, I grew up with NES and Sega... The first time I actually cried and almost rage quit from playing a game was after being pod killed in EVE. But it never made me stop playing, rather the opposite. However, the taste is different, as we all know.

I get what your saying I do and if it where only something like 4 times I wouldn't be this frustrated. I do know how to avoid stars when coming out of Jump cruise. I know to submit to interdiction and do. I do all that and yet I was still destroyed and slowly. Now tell me why I should continue playing a game that has been slapping me down from day one? How am I supposed to get any kind of income when I keep getting interdicted and destroyed because every ship is a master or expert and able to blow me up before my jump drive is charged? How do I make money when trading is like finding a needle in a hay stack. How am I supposed to make money when Exploring basically is slow and doesn't yeild the credits that time is spent in to it?

I know lot of you guys have this game licked but I don't and I can't get anywhere and when I do start to make some sort of progress I get slapped down. It leaves me wondering why bother playing at all. Where fun in being slapped down and destroyed and not making any progress what so ever?

 

[Ellen_K]

I am in solo mode. It's not even that I'm bad at combat. Some one had mentioned Eve. I hate Eve Online. It's brilliant game but I hate point and click and is the only reason I hate Eve Online. But I tell you this I sure rather play Eve Online then this game. At least there I have a fair shot out the door. Here all that I have seen is a whole lot of space and not a whole lot of money making. This morning was final straw.

I can't being to explain how much what happen to me this morning just did me in. I spent weeks trying to figure out how to make some sort of stupid profit in this game. Ever way I have seen has been dirt slow including Trading. I finally get my ship out fitted right to actually do combat. I get 43k in bounties only to loose it faster then I built it because game threw something at me that I couldn't escape or defeat. I didn't die fast I died slowly. I had my window blown out and my life support knocked out and oxygen escaping. I had few min to get back to star port and dock. I got all way to port and was getting ready to dock and ran out of time and boom I died. Can you even imagine how that would feel. To finally make some sort of supid progress only to be set back and be back almost at square one.

The look and feel and scope of the game is awesome but it's not enough to make me keep wanting to come back if all I'm going to do is get no where and be destroyed over and over. The game is not any fun any more and it's that simple. I don't see how any one can find the game fun.

Well the first bolded line is one of the problems here, me thinks. These kind of games takes time, lots of time. Even EVE takes time, when mentioning that. The second bolded line seems to me the awesome way to die. In agony, suffering and severe pain. Darkness. Misery. Sweet, sweet, misery.

Well, seriously, my personal perception is that you got to a exceptionally bad start, but at the same time I have a hard time beliving that you could make absolutely no monetary progress at all in several weeks. Sure, interdiction is a pain but taking into account most witness reports here on the forums it's not a big deal escaping from it. And missions, even the most basic and easy ones, give SOME money. I only had problems escaping once, but that was because I already had a damage ship due to a bit too warm and cosy situation with a white dwarf. But I've never played solo, maybe that's harder?

 

[Hudsonn]

I've had that in other games. Not this one though, maybe I have had lucky start. I'm made plenty of mistakes and had to start over a few times, but it's kind of expected. Maybe you need to come back to the at a later stage, give it a few months, then try again. You're obviously down about it. This isn't the be all and end of gaming.

 

[purf]

I had my window blown out and my life support knocked out and oxygen escaping. I had few min to get back to star port and dock. I got all way to port and was getting ready to dock and ran out of time and boom I died. Can you even imagine how that would feel.

Been there, done that. We all have, in one way or the other.
It's entirely possibly to lose not only 43.000cr but 430.000.000cr and be at square one.
This IS the nature of this game. And once you accept that, it's all good.
The journey is the reward and all that

 

[Evyl Minkey]

I'm sorry to hear that its got too much for you. There is no point playing a game if it just winds you up. If you do decide to come back to it later my previous offer still stands, just drop me a line.

 

[velociraptor_Sb]

I hate point and click games. I like the style of Elite Dangerous it's why Ive stuck with as long as I have. But I've been getting my butt handed to me from the start. I can't make any lead way. Every time I try I get slapped down. How would you feel if after three weeks you where still in same stupid ship you started and had flat out no really money. Every time you started to make money game throws something at you that ultimatly leads to your death and you end up right back where you started. Imagin how frustrating that would be. Right now I'm hoping Chris Roberts has better game and can offer me a decent fair shot at actually doing something other then lots of dying. I'm sorry for rant but you don't understand how frustrating it is to have 43k Cr in your hand and that be the most money you made the entire time you played only to have it snatched out of your hands because you ran out of oxygen just as you got to star port. All because you were attacked by a Master. I mean for crying out loud throw me a bone and give me some sort of fighting chance but the game has yet to give me that. So why continue playing really. I don't get what all of you see in it.

You are a very impatient player , this game requires some learning yet a lot of trial and error in order to find your own playing style , and the path you choose to progress , I mean for crying out loud if u get killed every time u get interdicted it means u need to practice more combat (unless u get interdicted by a python or a clipper , in which case ur unlucky although their interdiction can be easily evaded as ur ship is more manoueverable) , i mean even as a beginner i remember getting interdicted at first and not even knowing that interdiction can be evaded , the sidewinder maybe a slow ship but its very manouverable and can outturn vipers, cobras, and adders (workhorse ship for most pirates around LHS 3447) easily and u can use that to ur advantage .it doesnot matter wether they are master or expert or whatever , when i started playing i didnot even notice that the enemies had ranks . i Just played enough solo combat tutorials to get a feel for flying and be able to defend myself and i was able to do so with only a sidewinder armed with a pluse laser and a minigun ,everything else was default , actually the NPCs are quite dumm if u fight them long enough ull notice that . This game requires a lot of learning patience when starting , and loss is to be expected (i once lost 5 mill after weeks of playing and returned to square one with a sidewinder , i got frustrated and didnot play for days ...but with the experience i gained i very quickly compensated my loss again, plus there are many activities that u can engage in , when i started i didnot even care about credits , i just enjoyed doing jobs and getting the hang of the game .

A firendly advice : stop venting your Anger on the game , you need to practice .The Game is fun . And now that wings are around the corner u can find someone to play with u or run trade routes with , that way ull probably have a higher rate of survival and you will enjoy .

 

[VATrevelyan]

I get what your saying I do and if it where only something like 4 times I wouldn't be this frustrated. I do know how to avoid stars when coming out of Jump cruise. I know to submit to interdiction and do. I do all that and yet I was still destroyed and slowly. Now tell me why I should continue playing a game that has been slapping me down from day one? How am I supposed to get any kind of income when I keep getting interdicted and destroyed because every ship is a master or expert and able to blow me up before my jump drive is charged? How do I make money when trading is like finding a needle in a hay stack. How am I supposed to make money when Exploring basically is slow and doesn't yeild the credits that time is spent in to it?

I know lot of you guys have this game licked but I don't and I can't get anywhere and when I do start to make some sort of progress I get slapped down. It leaves me wondering why bother playing at all. Where fun in being slapped down and destroyed and not making any progress what so ever?

Every kind of space trucking game is like this, a long period of grind and then you have so much money you can do whatever (but with the threat of boredom). Elite/Frontier, Privateer/Star Citizen, and the X series are all exactly the same in these regards.

If you need help with the money, there's several websites out there that can help you compute profitable trade routes. Try eddb.io, for a start. Not to mention the Trade Computer extension.

You could even ask people on the forum for a good trade route, there for sure would be some that would reply. I'll even begin that, try Synteini, they want slaves. There's several systems nearby that sell them, and in fact the whole area is ripe with good trades even if you are soft. And most of these systems have short travel times so you have a minimal chance of interception.

Second of all, if you have a fight you can't win, just pop all your energy to engines and afterburn out of there. At least until 1.2 pops around, the AI is not particularly good at pursuit and thus you can get away with minimal to nil damage. Once you are 4km out you can hit Jumpdrive or Hyperdrive with no repercussions (unless he's got missiles, but if you've working shields they aren't a major threat anyway).

Let me put it to you like this; in one week I went from the Sidewinder to a mid-grade Cobra Mk 3 (which I was able to refit into a ship able to fly 1000ly before having to dock as part of an exploration foray). That's including downtime for RL concerns, so I wasn't doing anything like a pro-spec Starcraft game session by any stretch of the imagination. I had a lot of down time this week as well but I'll still soon be trading in my Type-6 (100t cargo!) to an Asp (96t cargo, but has even odds against any ship that comes up to it; the Type-6 not so much). I also am slowly progressing through the ranks of the game's military and am a Recruit in the Federation and a Master in the Empire (and can visit the capitol system for that latter power now).