Those boring areas..

Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
Hey there,

I'm on my way to Beagle Point at the moment and currently in an area of the galaxy map that is reaaaaally boring. No gas giants, no interesting systems, no interesting pairs, no close binaries, no close ring proximities, nothing..
That''s for about 3,000ly like that.

How do you keep yourself motivated in such areas? How do you still find something interesting? Any tips on how to see if a system could be special by looking at the stars in the galaxy map?
 

Hawk of Battle

Hawk of Battle
Yeah I've had areas like that. Entire regions that seem to have nothing of interest. I just had to knuckle down and cross quickly, neutron boosting as much as possible. It helps to filter for only A, F, G and non-sequence stars, to at least somewhat increase the chances of EWL's and WW's whenever you need fuel, but otherwise, yeah.

Course then you suddenly stumble into an area that has 3 ELWs within 100LYs and wonder what the hell happened. RNG man.
 

Gwyther

Gwyther
Maybe try exploring in the upper and lower parts of the core.
I am currently on route from Colonia to a system at the highest part of the core above Sag A.
I am only about halfway and I have already discovered loads of ELW's, white dwarfs, neutron stars and black holes.
Once I have sold my data I will post all the screenshots I have taken.
 

Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
Deserted-crib3 said:
Maybe try exploring in the upper and lower parts of the core.
I am currently on route from Colonia to a system at the highest part of the core above Sag A.
I am only about halfway and I have already discovered loads of ELW's, white dwarfs, neutron stars and black holes.
Once I have sold my data I will post all the screenshots I have taken.
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Yeah, I know that but the nearer you come to the edge of the galaxy the worse the star density and you can't go up or down that much.

I already use the GMP POIs for my route, but yeah, they aren't as nice as in other parts of the galaxy aswell.

Maybe I'll try filtering for stars.. I'm someone who scans the galaxy map along the route I want to take to find something interesting, but I never had such a boring region like that. Not even some systems with interesting star combinations or something. Hope I'll get out of there soon :(
 

Martin Shepard

Martin Shepard
varonica said:
Nice, I broke a few personal records the other day, a system with 99 bodies and a body with rings 29m kilometers wide, it's always a good feeling!
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Wow, 29 million km :eek: Nice find!
Most of the time when I find a gas giant with wide rings the density of this wide ring is so low that one can't actually see it :(
I only found one gas giant where you could see it once.
 
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varonica

varonica
Martin Shepard said:
Wow, 29 million km :eek: Nice find!
Most of the time when I find a gas giant with wide rings the density of this wide ring is so low that one can't actually see it :(
I only found a gas giant where you could see it once.
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Same here, the previous largest rings I found, and those could be seen, were 25m kilometers, so this was a nice step up!
 

CMDR SleepyDelegate

CMDR SleepyDelegate
I'm having the same problem... My last couple of thousands of ly were BORING... But as some wise explorer said - "We bold explorers cast boredom aside by having another beer, and just knowing deep down that Raxxla is around the next galactic corner." :)

I always hope the next system will be the one...

Not even AA-A systems are interesting in this region of space... They are usually E or D, meaning that there is usually just a normal star and nothing else... Not even a super giants, no black holes, rarely a neutron star...

I rarely find bio signals in these areas. Most of the geological signals that seem to be interesting not exist in reality, like Silicate Vapour Geysers, or Methane magma and similar... I spent couple of hours searching for Silicate Vapour Geysers on a planet, where they were supposed to be, but no luck, only gas vents, fumaroles and spouts... No geysers... Then I found out that they probably do not exist... Why is the FSS showing them is a mystery to me...

And what is the worst is, that in this distant region of space, where there are only couple of stars, a lot of them were already discovered by someone else, so I had to head back to a more dense space...
 

varonica

varonica
CMDR SleepyDelegate said:
I rarely find bio signals in these areas. Most of the geological signals that seem to be interesting not exist in reality, like Silicate Vapour Geysers, or Methane magma and similar... I spent couple of hours searching for Silicate Vapour Geysers on a planet, where they were supposed to be, but no luck, only gas vents, fumaroles and spouts... No geysers... Then I found out that they probably do not exist... Why is the FSS showing them is a mystery to me...
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They usually do, but searching for them manually is a long and exhausting task, I did for a long time before the FSS. However now you don't need to manually search, the DSS once having mapped the planet will show you exactly where they are with a target circle you can fly straight to. They probably are there, but the only way to be sure to find them manually if to grid fly the entire body. Use your DSS, map the body, there they are!

Basically if they show on the FSS then they are there!
 

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I'm moving from AOR to AOR (Area of Responsibility) in my Carrier every few weeks...

While those AORs are limited in size (50LY or 100LY radius), I tend to make excursions around them when I get bored.

Then I check within 1000LY for potentially interesting Systems... Any Planetary Nebula maybe, Herbig Stars, S/MS type stars, Black Holes, very high-Mass Systems.
I also like adding Neutron Stars to EDSM, so they eventually become part of the Spansh Neutron Plotter to help optimize long routes for other CMDRs in the future.

That kind of stuff keeps me busy and is a nice distraction when things get "too routine" out there.
I'm out in Deep Space since >5 months now - so I'd say this works quite nicely ;)
 

CMDR SleepyDelegate

CMDR SleepyDelegate
varonica said:
They usually do, but searching for them manually is a long and exhausting task, I did for a long time before the FSS. However now you don't need to manually search, the DSS once having mapped the planet will show you exactly where they are with a target circle you can fly straight to. They probably are there, but the only way to be sure to find them manually if to grid fly the entire body. Use your DSS, map the body, there they are!

Basically if they show on the FSS then they are there!
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Thank you Cmdr. varonica. I am aware of the functions of DSS and FSS, unfortunately, I am a new player and was not around when the old way of searching for stuff was used... I'm not sure whether I just had a bad luck, or whether this is the reality, but I have checked Codex and in all regions where I looked (and I have looked in those most dense, most busy regions), there is not a single mention of anyone reporting either Silicate Vapour Geysers or Methane magma, or Water magma... There is always only Iron magma or Silicate magma, or Water geysers and some other geysers, but not a single word about those two specific phenomenons I have mentioned...

As I said, I have not looked everywhere, but the planets that were supposed to have them, did not have them in any geological location and the CODEX also does not mention them...
 

varonica

varonica
CMDR SleepyDelegate said:
Thank you Cmdr. varonica. I am aware of the functions of DSS and FSS, unfortunately, I am a new player and was not around when the old way of searching for stuff was used... I'm not sure whether I just had a bad luck, or whether this is the reality, but I have checked Codex and in all regions where I looked (and I have looked in those most dense, most busy regions), there is not a single mention of anyone reporting either Silicate Vapour Geysers or Methane magma, or Water magma... There is always only Iron magma or Silicate magma, or Water geysers and some other geysers, but not a single word about those two specific phenomenons I have mentioned...

As I said, I have not looked everywhere, but the planets that were supposed to have them, did not have them in any geological location and the CODEX also does not mention them...
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You are confusing your geologic terms, you will never see water magma, or iron magma or methane magma, by definition magma is a subsurface feature, this describes it in simple terms in relation to earth;

Magma
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is extremely hot liquid and semi-liquid rock located under Earth's surface. ... This magma can push through holes or cracks in the crust, causing a volcanic eruption. When magma flows or erupts onto Earth's surface, it is called lava. Like solid rock, magma is a mixture of minerals.
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A planet with water magma vulcanism will have water geysers, not magma geysers, you won't ever find magma features on the surface because once the magma breaches the surface it is no longer magma. So magma is a subsurface feature, if you are looking for "methane magma" you will never find it. As for silicate vapour geysers, I have found them in places, but the other thing to keep in mind is that the codex and FSS only report one type of vulcanism per body but there can actually be multiple types per body so it may be necessary to check all the sites on a body to actually find some.
 

CMDR SleepyDelegate

CMDR SleepyDelegate
varonica said:
You are confusing your geologic terms, you will never see water magma, or iron magma or methane magma, by definition magma is a subsurface feature, this describes it in simple terms in relation to earth;
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This is also something I do understand...

FSS says: Vulcanism - Iron Magma
What do you find on the surface: Iron Magma Lava Spout

FSS says: Vulcanism - Silicate Magma
What do you find on the surface: Silicate Magma Lava Spout

FSS says: Vulcanism - Methane Magma
What do you find on the surface: Methane Ice Fumaroles

FSS says: Vulcanism - Water Magma
What do you find on the surface: Water Geysers

So as you see, based on the Iron and Silicate phenomenons, I was expecting, to find Methane Lava Spout... But instead, I have only found Gas Vents and Fumaroles... The same with Water... I was expecting to find Water Lava Spouts, but instead you find geysers, the same like on a planet, where the FSS says "Water Geysers". So my point is, that it is pointless to go to explore planet, that says Water magma, in hopes of finding Water Lava Spouts, because there are no Water Lava Spouts, there are only Water geysers, even though the FSS says two different things for the same phenomenon...

This is what I was talking about.
 
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