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Goose4291

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Goose4291
Mouse said:
Sadly in any game where there is a chance people will play against each other... the anonymity provided by the internet lead some to think that they can do whatever to whomever with no repercussions... I hope they managed to track who ever did that to you and your wife and threw the book at them as griefing in game and out of game should not be tolerated at all. But I ask... if you were able to track them down... were they in Mobius? If so why do you feel they represent Mobius?
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Nah. The police wanted to seriously take it further, but I talked them out of it, same with the Wife. That sort of thing escalates out of control in my experience, and I didn't want it impacting further than it already had.

If you note, I don't say at any point that the people involved in my incidents were mobius players/administration/etc. What I said was that I've encountered these things myself.

As to what does/doesn't represent Mobius in my prior comments, I'm not having a legalese word argument over this, but to be clear, my points were levelled specifically at their hierarchy, who seem to be the ones who take it to the earlier levels of madness, from what I've seen from others I know who've had run-ins. NOT every single player who uses the PG.

Alec Turner said:
Goose4291 - don't know if you heard this but you might appreciate it!

http://laveradio.com/Galnet/180201Galnet.mp3

Fast forward to 5:08.
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Tee-hee
 
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Jockey79

Jockey79
Goose4291 said:
Nah. The police wanted to seriously take it further, but I talked them out of it, same with the Wife. That sort of thing escalates out of control in my experience, and I didn't want it impacting further than it already had.

If you note, I don't say at any point that the people involved in my incidents were mobius players/administration/etc. What I said was that I've encountered these things myself.

As to what does/doesn't represent Mobius in my prior comments, I'm not having a legalese word argument over this, but to be clear, my points were levelled specifically at their hierarchy, who seem to be the ones who take it to the earlier levels of madness, from what I've seen from others I know who've had run-ins. NOT every single player who uses the PG.
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2 points;

First, You should always take the matters of stalking / harassment to court. It's the only some of these folks learn that their behaviour is not acceptable and those who refuse to learn need to be locked up, not just for your own personal safety but that of the wider public as well. After all, you do not know who else they may be stalking / harassing and your case could be the one that solves the issue for lots of folks. ( Ex Constable remember, this is advice I've always given out as people don't understand how the Police have to "build a case" to stop someone, so they need every complaint to be followed up / taken to court or you end up leaving a mental person on the street to harm others or yourself ).

Second, I'm not happy over how you want to portray the Mobius group as the only bad guys and completely skip over all the things Code / SDC members (and some independent pilots) have done to individuals in the Mobius group and the wider group at large. With infiltration / stalking of the Mobius group and out of game planning and bragging about it. I've seen what some PvP'ers have posted on social media (Reddit / Facebook / YouTube) and other forums. It's not just people in the Mobius group who take things too far - plenty in Code / SDC have done also. It has nothing to do with the groups and everything to do with those individuals.
 

Goose4291

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Goose4291
Jockey79 said:
2 points;

First, You should always take the matters of stalking / harassment to court. It's the only some of these folks learn that their behaviour is not acceptable and those who refuse to learn need to be locked up, not just for your own personal safety but that of the wider public as well. After all, you do not know who else they may be stalking / harassing and your case could be the one that solves the issue for lots of folks. ( Ex Constable remember, this is advice I've always given out as people don't understand how the Police have to "build a case" to stop someone, so they need every complaint to be followed up / taken to court or you end up leaving a mental person on the street to harm others or yourself ).

Second, I'm not happy over how you want to portray the Mobius group as the only bad guys and completely skip over all the things Code / SDC members (and some independent pilots) have done to individuals in the Mobius group and the wider group at large. With infiltration / stalking of the Mobius group and out of game planning and bragging about it. I've seen what some PvP'ers have posted on social media (Reddit / Facebook / YouTube) and other forums. It's not just people in the Mobius group who take things too far - plenty in Code / SDC have done also. It has nothing to do with the groups and everything to do with those individuals.
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Okay, fair point. I'll bear that in mind for future events.

As to your second point. No I didnt. I answered a question as to why I have issues in a plain uncomplicated manner.
 

Mouse

Mouse
Goose4291 said:
my points were levelled specifically at their hierarchy, who seem to be the ones who take it to the earlier levels of madness, from what I've seen from others I know who've had run-ins. NOT every single player who uses the PG.



Tee-hee
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Seriously Goose? They were the ones to "take it to the earlier levels of madness"... I think you meant to say they were the ones who had to react to multiple organized infiltrations by groups of PVP griefers that couldn't stand that there was a PVE group.. Griefing that rose to the point where FDev themselves had to step in and give Mobius the power to ACCOUNT BAN these people from Mobius in an effort to lessen the harassment.
 

Chaparral

Chaparral
So I thought the OP was about empty Open and not the politics between two groups of people that don't like each other. Sorry I missed the point. Sorry you had to deal with RL stalkers related to ED. Also feel bad for those folks running charity streams that get punked. The internet is ugly. Hope FDEV furnished the IPs so that those people are held to account.

Concerning the OP, I was at the CG the other night in Mobius PVE and it was packed. I had to switch to a smaller PG to find NPCs to shoot in the res zone. Might be some data there that is useful. 6:7
 

Goose4291

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Goose4291
Commander Danicus said:
So I thought the OP was about empty Open and not the politics between two groups of people that don't like each other. Sorry I missed the point. Sorry you had to deal with RL stalkers related to ED. Also feel bad for those folks running charity streams that get punked. The internet is ugly. Hope FDEV furnished the IPs so that those people are held to account.

Concerning the OP, I was at the CG the other night in Mobius PVE and it was packed. I had to switch to a smaller PG to find NPCs to shoot in the res zone. Might be some data there that is useful. 6:7
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That was the original point, but unsurprisingly its been dragged off topic.
 

DB Cooper

DB Cooper
Ophion said:
Depends where you are. All my ships are at Founders World because of outfitting options. I wouldn't last half an hour there in open. But I hope new C&P system will change that. We'll see.
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Funny, I have been playing since Beta, so I had access to founders world and play in open all the time and have only been interdicted once. Open is not the grief fest some think it is. Of course there are some cmdrs that think that if you are in open you are fair game but those are few. Just learn how to escape or get better at standing your ground, Open is fun
 
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