Tigers and their group size -bug?

sleepy_sloth · Nov 10, 2019

Hi,

a short question to check if I'm making a mistake:

I currently have 4 pairs of Bengal tigers in 4 enclosures (in two of those are also some cubs; but they don't matter here) . Recently some tigers died, some became adults, I bought a new one- so i completely rearranged the living arrangements so that each tiger had a genetically well-matched mate. This worked fine in 3 of the 4 enclosures. The pair in the fourth enclosure though is constantly fighting due to "overcrowding", even if only one of them is in there they complain.

There are no cubs in this habitat and I double-checked the gender. I also tried to put a different male tiger in, but he also starts complaining about too many other tigers immediately. The enclosure worked fine for 10 ingame years before that.

There is a shared wall with the tigers "next-door", but they do not complain.
Has anybody experienced this?

Wolfen75 · Nov 10, 2019

Never had that issue, but also never dared to share a wall.
There are many little things that can go south and weired stuff messing up habitats anyway,
so i try to keep the risks as low as possible.
I would tear down the problematic habitat (consider it cursed) and rebuild it.
The wrecking ball solved most problem i had in the game so far.

Chris Simon · Nov 10, 2019

sleepy_sloth said:
Hi,

a short question to check if I'm making a mistake:

I currently have 4 pairs of Bengal tigers in 4 enclosures (in two of those are also some cubs; but they don't matter here) . Recently some tigers died, some became adults, I bought a new one- so i completely rearranged the living arrangements so that each tiger had a genetically well-matched mate. This worked fine in 3 of the 4 enclosures. The pair in the fourth enclosure though is constantly fighting due to "overcrowding", even if only one of them is in there they complain.

There are no cubs in this habitat and I double-checked the gender. I also tried to put a different male tiger in, but he also starts complaining about too many other tigers immediately. The enclosure worked fine for 10 ingame years before that.

There is a shared wall with the tigers "next-door", but they do not complain.
Has anybody experienced this?

Well, it's either a bugged enclosure that somehow forgot that the previous tigers are gone, of you have a third tiger hiding in the corner, somewhere.

Cocolori · Nov 10, 2019

I had thus where the game still registered a tiger that was in the trade centre. I had to reload the save and it had worked it out

Dae · Nov 10, 2019

I have the same issue. 4 tigers habitats (no shared walls), and just to make sure, when pups become adults I transfer them into an "adult stacking" habitat before sending them to the trade center so that the animals don't stay in gray in their former habitat and the stacking habitat has grayed out all the tigers in the trade center.

And in one of the habitat, with only 1 male and one female they constantly fought because of "too many adults". When they got too old I changed the 2 tigers and it went fine... until their first batch became adult, and since then they constantly fight because of "too many adults" though their children are no longer registered to this habitat...

It's probably a bug tied to the habitat. I'll try next time I put the tigers together (the male is in the trade center while the female can't be pregnant) to delete the habitat and make it again, but the bug is also linked to the fact that animals in trade center count as adults in the habitat and I hope this bug is fixed soon...

Monsarona · Nov 10, 2019

If you don't want to rebuild the whole habitat you can try removing the animals (send them to quarantine or something) then deleting the habitat gate and re-adding it to reset the area as a habitat. Hopefully that will reset what animals still exist in the habitat. It might for some reason still think the previous occupants are still there.

holliday50 · Nov 10, 2019

I had this after some cubs reached adulthood. I immediately paused the game & sent them to the Trade Center. When I unpaused the game, the tiger pair started fighting due to "overcrowding". I get this often immediately after cubs reached adulthood, so I used my normal solution, which is to "Box all animals" immediately followed by "unbox all animals". This usually resets them, but in this case it didn't. The male got injured, went to vet surgery, and immediately started fighting again when he returned to the enclosure. It remained that way until he died of old age.

GhostFish · Nov 10, 2019

Dae said:
I have the same issue. 4 tigers habitats (no shared walls), and just to make sure, when pups become adults I transfer them into an "adult stacking" habitat before sending them to the trade center so that the animals don't stay in gray in their former habitat and the stacking habitat has grayed out all the tigers in the trade center.

This is a really good idea - does it work consistently?

Dae · Nov 10, 2019

Besides the bugged habitat it works pretty well, but it's a lot of work to work around a bug and it adds up on the staff work load... and It consumes space which can't be used for the zoo. It's a temporary solution to wait for a fix... And I hope the fix will come soon I'm already tired of checking how many adults are linked to which habitat.

Dae · Nov 10, 2019

Monsarona said:
If you don't want to rebuild the whole habitat you can try removing the animals (send them to quarantine or something) then deleting the habitat gate and re-adding it to reset the area as a habitat. Hopefully that will reset what animals still exist in the habitat. It might for some reason still think the previous occupants are still there.

It worked

my 2 tigers are not fighting anymore, thanks for the idea. And it also removed the pups from the habitat list, way faster than getting them through another habitat. I think I'll reset the habitat after each batch now.