Tips on feeding big group of Flamingo's?

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I want to have a big group of Flamingo in the first part of my zoo, i have build a big habitat that is big enough for at least 300 Flamingo's.
But every time i get around 200 Flamingo's they start dying of hunger.
Two zookeepers are (almost constantly) busy cleaning the habitat and by the time they are done and have time to fill the feeders around 25 Flamingo's have died.

How do you guys do this or is it just not possible to have such a big group of Flamingo's in Planet Zoo?
 

NatisZoos

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I would employ at least five zookeepers and keep four of them only for the food, one for the rest (cleaning). Two zookeppers is just very optimistic! One needs to be on a break, the other one is probably overworked? And overworked people will work even slower. Maybe you will need even more than that so that the feeding can happen faster.
Do they both have five stars?
 

NL_Mutso

NL_Mutso
I'd go with a few more zookeepers (i agree with 5-6) and train them fully.. They are more effective that way....
 

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Sorry i wasn't clear enough🤭 i do have more zookeepers in the area but i normally see only maximum of two at the same time in the habitat, and never saw, for example, twee keepers at the same time filling the feeders.

But i should be possible to manage a group bigger than 200 flamingo's without dying birds?
 

Dr4gon

Dr4gon
MikeyMike1 said:
Sorry i wasn't clear enough🤭 i do have more zookeepers in the area but i normally see only maximum of two at the same time in the habitat, and never saw, for example, twee keepers at the same time filling the feeders.

But i should be possible to manage a group bigger than 200 flamingo's without dying birds?
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Have you tried to set one keeper to feeding and the other one for cleaning?
Also I would dedicate a veterinarian special to that habitat.
 

Harai

Harai
For those bigger habitats I like to place the large keeper hut and a small staff room so the keepers assigned to it can produce food at the same time (something like 4 or 6 keepers can work in the large hut) and the small staff room tend to be enough for that habitat
 

QueenOfTheNorth

QueenOfTheNorth
Somebody on here posted a video of their flock of 500 flamingos (escaping their pen lol), so it is possible.
Based off my 25 flamingos and 10 turtles sharing an exhibit right now with 2 keepers maintaining (1 main, 1 back-up incase the other is on break), for 200 of them you will likely need to dedicate at least 4 keepers to the exhibit and maybe switch on/off their duties (1 cleaner, 2 feeders, 1 does both, etc). Place a keeper hut and small staff room near the exhibit gate so the keepers don't need to travel too far. Perhaps also make sure the feeders are spread throughout the exhibit incase the flamingos are having to walk a long distance just to reach the food? That's all I can think of for suggestions, maybe I will have more info when my flock reaches 100 birds. :)
 

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thanks for the responds, i think the problem is that there can only be one keeper at the time feeding in the enclosure, or has anyone seen two keepers at the same time feeding in an enclosure?

+ to make it worse the keeper is not filling in al logical order, he walks from one side of the enclosure to the other while passing empty feeding trays... and i know for sure that i did not placed them in that order.
 

Dr4gon

Dr4gon
MikeyMike1 said:
dammit well hope they have some sort of fix for the feeding issues in the next update.... my flock just went from 218, to 163o_O:eek::rolleyes::cautious:
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When my pen is with 9 zebras, I start selling. I had 36 peafowl chickens once. I made a new zoo, placed them there and deleted the zoo. They made me crazy :)
 

QueenOfTheNorth

QueenOfTheNorth
+ to make it worse the keeper is not filling in al logical order, he walks from one side of the enclosure to the other while passing empty feeding trays... and i know for sure that i did not placed them in that order.
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That's interesting, how large is the enclosure? If the enclosure isn't absolutely absurdly massive like for a herd of elephants and too far for the flamingos to walk/run back and forth without starving en-route, you could group all the feeding dishes in one area instead. (Spreading them out seems more logical for making sure everyone gets food, but seems that's not working for your zookeepers). That would get the food set out faster and more reliably and they can just stampede at it each feeding time. 😆
 

Jaggid Edje

Jaggid Edje
MikeyMike1 said:
thanks for the responds, i think the problem is that there can only be one keeper at the time feeding in the enclosure, or has anyone seen two keepers at the same time feeding in an enclosure?
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I've read that only one keeper can be in a habitat at the same time, I know that is patently wrong. I've also read that the only time more than one will be in the habitat at once is if one is cleaning and the other is feeding....and yet I've seen two at the same time filling feeders in my own zoos at least twice. I can't say how it is "supposed" to work, and if what I've seen is buggy/glitchy behaviour or not though.
 

AlexVonHumbug

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who of the people that give that shallow advices, even had 200 flamingos in an enclosure? i think the game cant deal with too many animals in one enclosure, thats it.
MikeyMike1
i think you just hit the limit.
 
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AlexVonHumbug said:
who of the people that give that shallow advices, even had 200 flamingos in an enclosure? i think the game cant deal with too many animals in one enclosure, thats it.
MikeyMike1
i think you just hit the limit.
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i hope that i did not hit the limit, it's not that my frame rates have dropped dramatically or something... the only reason i see that it is going wrong is that the feeding needs some tweaking, but we know this since the release.
I just hope that they are going to do something about it and not leave it like it is now. (like Frontier did with Planet Coaster and JWE where some mayor basic things are just not working)
 

Arletario

Arletario
So you don't want to test something or check the limits - you just want a really large, working flamingo habitat?

Then my suggestion would be: You could try to divide your huge habitat into 4 smaller ones - for example. When building the separating, inner barriers, use the "Null" barriers and to prevent the flamingos from "escaping" into one of the other 3 enclosures, put down some rocks, trees, logs, and decorative objects along the "Null" barriers so that the traversable area is blocked just enough for the animals. This way, it could look like one really big enclosure, but technically there are 4 with 50 flamingos each. And you can build 4 habitat doors and up to 8 keepers should be able to handle all flamingos at the same time. I think that should definitely work better, whether Frontier will update the Keeper's AI or not.
 

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Arletario said:
So you don't want to test something or check the limits - you just want a really large, working flamingo habitat?

Then my suggestion would be: You could try to divide your huge habitat into 4 smaller ones - for example. When building the separating, inner barriers, use the "Null" barriers and to prevent the flamingos from "escaping" into one of the other 3 enclosures, put down some rocks, trees, logs, and decorative objects along the "Null" barriers so that the traversable area is blocked just enough for the animals. This way, it could look like one really big enclosure, but technically there are 4 with 50 flamingos each. And you can build 4 habitat doors and up to 8 keepers should be able to handle all flamingos at the same time. I think that should definitely work better, whether Frontier will update the Keeper's AI or not.
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thanks for the response, i was doing something like this but when i was building it i thought "Well this is some bull...., i am breaking down a big and very detailed habitat because of problems created by the AI of Frontier", so i stopped and left the habitat in one piece.
I will keep my hope on the next update ;)
 

Crea_TivELA

Crea_TivELA
Hmm... that's strange, because there is one throphy on Steam, where we should build a habitat with 20 different animals in it... how should that work if just one keeper can work in one task like feeding for the whole enclosure? To do that, multiple keepers need to fill up food at the same time - same goes for cleaning. With the information only 2 keepers can work in one habitat on two different tasks, I don't believe this trophy habitat could work... it's impossible.
 

Jaggid Edje

Jaggid Edje
Crea_TivELA said:
Hmm... that's strange, because there is one throphy on Steam, where we should build a habitat with 20 different animals in it... how should that work if just one keeper can work in one task like feeding for the whole enclosure? To do that, multiple keepers need to fill up food at the same time - same goes for cleaning. With the information only 2 keepers can work in one habitat on two different tasks, I don't believe this trophy habitat could work... it's impossible.
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It's actually 30, not 20 and not a big deal to get. Just one habitat with only like half of the African Savannah grazers will hit it pretty quickly as babies are born. Only takes one keeper to keep them all fed, if you keep all the feeders near the keeper gate they don't even fall behind. And, of course, another one assigned to keep it clean.
This is the kind of habitat where I'm sure I've seen two keepers filling feeders at one time in some of my zoos though (I often have more keepers, and more habitats, in the same work zone), which is why I question the statement people make that only one can be in the habitat on a specific task at a time.
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