To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?

[Dack Janiels]

Oh and combat logging a totally forgot about combat logging that was in the game we bought!

most people just pulls off the plug

 

[Pralines]

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most people just pulls off the plug

how old is this "combat logging" update ?
any info of the incentives to counter this issue ?

 

[Dack Janiels]

how old is this "combat logging" update ?
any info of the incentives to counter this issue ?

it doesn't matter how old it is, it was said by the Lead Designer of Elite and there was no other statement that something had changed.

Killing task its not part of the game.

 

[Robert Maynard]

it doesn't matter how old it is, it was said by the Lead Designer of Elite and there was no other statement that something had changed.

The same Lead Designer who said that menu exit, at any time, is permissible - and acknowledged that not all players would agree.

He also advised a player, just before launch, to use the block feature when the player complained about serial interdiction by a player while playing in Open.

 

[[VR] optimal_909]

I haven't played since ages, but when I did I remained in open despite being fully PVE. Human players posed at least some threat and it was still easy to get away most of the time. And proper pirates were usually fair and let me go away after yielding to demands. Arriving from an exploration in open was always thrilling too.

So ramming at the station aside it was much better in open than in the boring solo.

 

[deleteduser]

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[Dack Janiels]

The same Lead Designer who said that menu exit, at any time, is permissible - and acknowledged that not all players would agree.

He also advised a player, just before launch, to use the block feature when the player complained about serial interdiction by a player while playing in Open.

I'm talking about a task kill (Alt+F4) which is used by the vast majority of combat loggers, not about 15 secs menu log (which is recognized by the frontier as legit and not bannable, but also disliked by most players and squadrons)

 

[Ettanin]

Hint: Blocking CLoggers is easier for you than investigating and banning them is for FDev.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

I'm talking about a task kill (Alt+F4) which is used by the vast majority of combat loggers, not about 15 secs menu log

You wouldn't ever know what kind of logout I'd use on you.

 

[Robert Maynard]

I'm talking about a task kill (Alt+F4) which is used by the vast majority of combat loggers, not about 15 secs menu log (which is recognized by the frontier as legit and not bannable, but also disliked by most players and squadrons)

Ah - the two are often conflated in discussion.

 

[deleteduser]

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[Dack Janiels]

You wouldn't ever know what kind of logout I'd use on you.

yes, with alt+f4 the ship stops taking damage and disappears
with 15 menu log it takes damage all the time until dissapears

 

[Robert Maynard]

yes, with alt+f4 the ship stops taking damage and disappears
with 15 menu log it takes damage all the time until dissapears

Indeed - however the reason for the loss of connection is not known (although it is likely assumed).

 

[Ettanin]

Indeed - however the reason for the loss of connection is not known (although it is likely assumed).

As is the nature of Peer to Peer - You know the connection is down, you cannot find out why the connection is down.

 

[deleteduser]

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[PM]

So.. should I ask before any interaction if he can survive most game situations? whether to test it and see what happens? if it survives he wasn't newbee, and if his ship go boom he was?

A player stops to be a newbee when he flies off the starting systems, because there is no way for you to check his stats. Even a mostly harmless sidewinder can be elite in trading and exploration and have billions in his account. You don't know that.

if you want you can ask but also you can test him without any word. if player survive your attacks then he's not newbee if he not survive then in mostly cases he is newbee.
all ranks mean nothing in pvp only your skill can help you. so this is why i not play EVE i want to level up my skills not my avatar skills.

 

[Ettanin]

You do know why. You're just pretending that cheating is OK provided you can come up with a plausible excuse. It's not. It's cheating.

I never said it's okay to do that. And no, you can't discern the reason for a disconnect:

• Power outage
• Crash
• Internet outage

All of these are not in control of the peer.

 

[Dack Janiels]

Indeed - however the reason for the loss of connection is not known (although it is likely assumed).

If this happens to same player 3 times and he loses connection at the same hull rate you can be sure it is not an accidental disconnection.

 

[Ettanin]

If this happens to same player 3 times and he loses connection at the same hull rate you can be sure it is not an accidental disconnection.

Or a frail 4G connection. Or unstable ADSL. Or whichever wireless or fixed internet access is used.

 

[Robert Maynard]

If this happens to same player 3 times and he loses connection at the same hull rate you can be sure it is not an accidental disconnection.

It may well indicate something other than accidental disconnection, yes.