Tritium Trading methods.

I take it that the days of stations buying Tritium for 416,840 Cr is long past? Is 50k +/- the new ceiling?

?? the highest I ever saw at a station was 85k T buy price week 1 of FC, it didn't last the week. Cheapest I ever seen was 3.7k t, that still appears from time to time.

The settled average high buying price by several stations is around 52k to 52.6k. Not seen above 52.6 T for the last 2 weeks.

All the 416k Stations are actually spammers Fleet Carriers and you will never find one actually open and buying by the time you arrive, or they will have 200T demand and set at 1 T, so you can only buy 1 t per transaction. Takes ages. they are the new Griefers.
 
?? the highest I ever saw at a station was 85k T buy price week 1 of FC, it didn't last the week. Cheapest I ever seen was 3.7k t, that still appears from time to time.

The settled average high buying price by several stations is around 52k to 52.6k. Not seen above 52.6 T for the last 2 weeks.

I guess we both missed that boat.
 
Why....its working as intended?

It might work in a short local range for porpers in ships, but us FC owners need a minimum of 500 LY price range coverage, and it cant supply that. Even EDDB struggles, i find only INARA is most effective, as long as you filter on time since update and ignore anything older than 1 hr.
 
Predicate. There is only one L landing pad station selling Tritium at around 4kCr per tonne at any one time.
Not true. I've seen as many as three discovered at a time. Not vary often, but it does happen. Maybe it's that commanders usually stop looking for them once they find one?
 
Way ahead of you, I've been doing this for nearly 3 weeks now. I'm almost a passive Tritium hauler, probably up to 85% passive now. How? Simple.

1. On the filling side i always offer to buy from a 4k station @ 29K T.
2. On the 4k buy stations, if I haven't been there before, I scout ahead in my diamond back explorer 48LY FSD and scan the system before i jump my FC, that way i can try and pick a good spot. If i jump blind to an empty medium pad buy system of a new large pad buy system (just appeared and not chokka). I always double jump the FC, once to the system, once again to the station moon, or as close as i can get to the station moon. I have before triple jumped to get a better spot. in System jumps only take 10T tritium so only cost 140k. If I cant get into a large pad 4k system I pick a good 4k medium pad system and stay there until I get a slot to jump into a large pad system.
3. On the offloading side I always offer to sell @ 30k and the haulers get to sell at 52k.
4. i'm happy for 1lk T passive margin for shift almost a full load. I do a few fill runs myself to up the margins , and enough offload sell runs to max out my free ARX @ the 400 weekly total, then I stop, until it resets.
5. I advertise, via my ship name, in system on the chat, and now on the INARA bulletin board. Letting workers know when I arrive, when i'm leaving, and on INARA, where I am currently and on what side of the trade.
6. I have installed shipyard and outfitting for my workers, so if they want they can store a large and medium pad hauler ship, and modules and cargo racks to swap out.

This works very well. Yesterday GCRV 65988 was full on the buy side, after selling all the previous load overnight while i slept, i had to take a spot in a medium pad 4k system. I then took the DE taxi to GCRV 65988 , about 4 jumps, scanned the system, and came back to the FC. When i arrived back 3kt had already been filled in the empty FC gargo hold. Then i went off and elsewhere in my Vette and did some fun "PEW PEW" missions. I then every 1/2 hr in the vette, remotely check via fleet carrier management if i can get spot in the large pad system, which i can search the whole system as i have visited it and scanned it. after 2 hrs got a spot, right on the station moon, 11.2Mm trip each way. Supercruise in a T9 was under 20 seconds each way.

So i parked the vette, in the pew pew system, back into the DBX taxi, back to the FC. announced my FC , started doing a few fill runs in my T9, bragged on chat how quick it was, and my FC was full of 19k tritium in under an hour. I did 4 x 756T trips in that hour, other haulers did the rest.

Now i am parked on the sell side system, 18k still to sell, just waiting knowing some one will find it and be tempted and empty it for me. While I carry on with some fun PEW PW Pirate massacre missions 100+ LY away.

Never one to miss a chance. If you want to make 22kT profit offloading Tritium, my FC WOY-3OZ is parked in LENORE system on the moon of GAMOW HUB, 21.8Mm trip, less than 60 seconds flight time. each way. FC name I SELL TRITIUM FOR 30K .

Buy from my FC for 30k, sell to the station for 52k T.
It doesn't seem like 1k profit would do much more than pay for the jump and the maintenance. I guess if it complete passive then that's all good.
 
Note that you can do all this without using a fleet carrier. Just fly your T9 to a location nearby that has high prices, there are plenty of those. If anything it's quicker than using a FC as you're not then having to make another trip to sell.
 
It doesn't seem like 1k profit would do much more than pay for the jump and the maintenance. I guess if it complete passive then that's all good.

Cant be 100% passive, you have to do the FC jump planning, advert updating, and do the FC jumps. Annoyingly you also have to be on the FC a system switch from buy to sell , because you cant "amend" the FC livery , and thus the FC name, via remote carrier services. Jump it remotely, sure, but you cant rename it remotely. So trips back every change of trade side are needed.

But i say 95% passive. So a full load for me now is 19300 T , so that's 19.3m (minimum) profit if i do zero of the loading and unloading, just jump and rename the FC , update the INARA BB ad, do quick bit of in system chat adverts.

So 19.3m x 95% = 18.34m profit..

Trading costs, worst case 2 FC jumps per side of the trade. 4 jumps at 100k = 400k , 2 in system jumps @ 10 tons trit = 80k , 2 up to 200LY bubble system Jumps @ 100t trit each = 800k.

So direct fuel and jump costs are 400k+80k+800k = 1.28m

18.34m - 1.28m = 17.06m net profit.

Again being conservative lets say i do a full buy /sell cycle in just under 48hrs , say 4 loads / cycles a week .

17.06m x 4 = 68.24m , my last FC bill this week was 16.2m , my estimated bill for next week (i added services mis week) is projected at 22m.

68m - 22m = 46m net profit to "lease" a fc, do what trading i want, and spend any time above the weekly 400 ARX earnings limit doing the fun, low paid "pew pew" stuff.

Looks like my true net earnings in the last 7 days are nearer 300m. But I aint done a lot of the "Hauling legwork" this last week.
 
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Note that you can do all this without using a fleet carrier. Just fly your T9 to a location nearby that's buying high, there are plenty of those. If anything it's quicker than using a FC as you're not then having to make another trip to sell.

Wow really? You can get other people to fly your T9 while you just do other stuff? Like go off and do "pew pew" pirate hunting missions! How? What do you pay them? My T9 tends to stop dead once auto doc and auto launch have finished and it just sits around waiting for me to control it.
 
Wow really? You can get other people to fly your T9 while you just do other stuff? Like go off and do "pew pew" pirate hunting missions! How? What do you pay them? My T9 tends to stop dead once auto doc and auto launch have finished and it just sits around waiting for me to control it.
Nah, didn't mean that part. Just meant you can fly the T9 yourself and make money trading Tritium without a requiring a FC.
 
Nah, didn't mean that part. Just meant you can fly the T9 yourself and make money trading Tritium without a requiring a FC.

True and false. depends on 2 crucial things coming together.

1. The 4k buy station is close (under 500LS) from it's system star. Not always as these are limited for large pad stations.
2. The 52k Sell station is close (under 500LS) from it's system star. Not so much of a problem, but the closest hop station might have a very long SC time, so need extra hops to go elsewhere.

You can almost ignore this problem with a FC, because you either jump straight to the Station moon, if you have visited that system before, and its not chokka, or at least get very close. Or jump twice with 18k-25k of load if it is a new system to you.

Its not hard with a little luck and paitence to pretty much always be on the doorstep of a dealing station in a FC with Supercruise times that ships that have to jump via stars can only dream of, often not even 1LS , i had a 5Mn this week, under 20 seconds each way in Supercruise. Under 8 mins round trips are often possible and a 10 min round trip is pretty much standard with a well parked FC.
 
I've done a trit trading run like that on the first day:
Loaded up 23k of trit, was even buying on order at 40k/t with 4k selling at the station, so commanders were able to make a nice profit in the process, then unloaded it all by myself on the other side and sold for 85k. NEVER EVER AGAIN!
I think keeping a small profit margin like OP does is a wise way of doing it. I guess I got too greedy in the process.
 
I've done a trit trading run like that on the first day:
Loaded up 23k of trit, was even buying on order at 40k/t with 4k selling at the station, so commanders were able to make a nice profit in the process, then unloaded it all by myself on the other side and sold for 85k. NEVER EVER AGAIN!
I think keeping a small profit margin like OP does is a wise way of doing it. I guess I got too greedy in the process.

Quiter. I did several full 23k loads and unloads myself that 1st few weeks of FC , 62 return trips , 124 flights a full buy / sell cycle. But then the 1st week especially you could buy at 10k or under and sell at 85k. Keep all the profit yourself.
 
Quiter. I did several full 23k loads and unloads myself that 1st few weeks of FC , 62 return trips , 124 flights a full buy / sell cycle. But then the 1st week especially you could buy at 10k or under and sell at 85k. Keep all the profit yourself.
Oh the profits were awesome. I made about 1b that day. Also maxed out my Arx that week in no time.
Same yesterday: I went to refuel my carrier, helped others refuel too, 200 Arx just from trading right there.
 
True and false. depends on 2 crucial things coming together.

1. The 4k buy station is close (under 500LS) from it's system star. Not always as these are limited for large pad stations.
2. The 52k Sell station is close (under 500LS) from it's system star. Not so much of a problem, but the closest hop station might have a very long SC time, so need extra hops to go elsewhere.

You can almost ignore this problem with a FC, because you either jump straight to the Station moon, if you have visited that system before, and its not chokka, or at least get very close. Or jump twice with 18k-25k of load if it is a new system to you.

Its not hard with a little luck and paitence to pretty much always be on the doorstep of a dealing station in a FC with Supercruise times that ships that have to jump via stars can only dream of, often not even 1LS , i had a 5Mn this week, under 20 seconds each way in Supercruise. Under 8 mins round trips are often possible and a 10 min round trip is pretty much standard with a well parked FC.
Sure, as you say it is easier with a FC but it will be quite a while before I can afford one so I have to make do with what I have for now until then. I'm fine with selling it for around $48k nearby rather than going too far out of my way for $52k, especially if the systems are like only 1 jump away from each other.
 
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