Trouble Getting Friends into Elite Dangerous?

You will never force anyone to enjoy a game, some will either hate it or love it. Some gamers look for story, or fast paced action, a few play games for tactical reasons or RPG's. It is usually very rare for a gamer who enjoys action fast paced gameplay to enjoy a tactical game or rpg like Xcom for the tactical or Torment for the rpg.

A person who plays CoD or Rainbow 6 probably won't like Elite or games like this.

I find that Elite is often for the older gamer of 30+ or with people who enjoy the slower paced thinking games like the turn based tactical games or rpgs, this of course doesn't apply to everyone but the majority I would say this holds true.

The only thing you can do is direct them to streamers and video channels on play.com and youtube who record Elite Dangerous footage.
 
I actually managed to get three or four colleagues excited about the game during the last week. Some tried it in Beta and haven't played since.

I showed then some of my exploration screenshots and they all decided to buy Horizons to be able to land on planets and ride the SRV. And all of them actually want to try exploration, even the one of them that normally prefers PvP. :D
 
This game isn't instant gratification fodder, it's old school

Telepresence! Holograms! CQC!

Yeah buddy, pickin' up that Old School vibe for sure!

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Lots of people bought a dream, fueled by their remembrance of a long lost youth. There is nothing worse than the bitterness of broken hearts left when the light of reality shines on fragile dreams.

Think you should post this is the PS4 forums as if they've watched the trailer and are dreaming of whats to come ...I can hear the screaming of their nightmares from here.
 

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A man can dream.


What about Star Citizen? Might be more up your alley. It's made progress

Im halfway through the dream pc build, finances permitting...wont touch SC with the relic till the new pc is done because it wont live upto expectation. It barely runs Ed as it is and the xbone actually looks better...I have both. Gears 4 is where I keep upto date with most my m8s playing that until the new mass effect next month. Maybe by the time thats played out, then this game will have improved, or there will be another search until the next big shiny comes along.

I have a weakness fer games in this genre so SC is now my last hope at a slice of the cake with everything else being nothing more than a distraction till its ready. My hopes fer this one are fading fast, but it passes the time fer now.
 
Come on.. fast travel - really?

I wasn't asking for time travel if that's what you're thinking. I'm saying the time spent in ED offers little rewarding content/gameplay. Spending a bunch of time doing hyperspace jumps or in supercruise you inevitably will find yourself alt tabbing or doing other things. I can't think of any other games, slow paced strategy etc, that I actually do something else while playing. Isn't that a bit bizzare?
 
I bought a copy for a friend, his main complaint has been that travel takes too long. I don't think that's something that needs to change, it's just the nature of the game. I'd rather Elite be good at being Elite than trying to appeal to everyone.
 
I told my friends NOT to buy this game even on sales.

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I bought a copy for a friend, his main complaint has been that travel takes too long. I don't think that's something that needs to change, it's just the nature of the game. I'd rather Elite be good at being Elite than trying to appeal to everyone.

Sure, Elite should be boring otherwise it wouldn't be Elite.
 
Yeah, you can't force someone to like a game and for the sake of friendship you shouldn't. My son has tried Elite and he enjoyed it but there was always the peer pressure of his friends to play Battlefield, Warframe and more recently Overwatch. I suspect that he will probably return to Elite and similar games (dare I say Truck Simulator) in the future because he liked them... and I'm not going to press him to do so.
 
I bought a copy for a friend, his main complaint has been that travel takes too long. I don't think that's something that needs to change, it's just the nature of the game. I'd rather Elite be good at being Elite than trying to appeal to everyone.

This is so important. I can't help but feel some recent developments have forgotten that and tried to be a bit more arcadey
 
I'm older, and if there's one thing I've noticed with a lot of people nowadays is they want things at an instant as they seem have a lot shorter attention spans than older generations. I mean, look at today's movies for example, they're full of CGI, SFX and action packed scenes to keep the audience's attention. Just like children's animations that are nauseatingly full of jokes and cheesy little goings throughout the movie to keep today's children entertained. Good luck trying to get a child today to watch say the 1940's Pinocchio. They'd be like: "this is boring!".

Space legs will add a lot more pace to the game when exploring and boarding other ships with potentially FPS combat. I would say Elite Dangerous is still in beta, but it's an amazing game with a whole lot of love going into it. The Devs are clearly committed to creating content, it's just they can't keep everyone happy. I would say ED is Marmite and niche, but I like Marmite. The Avatar Creator is just the beginning of something that's going to be very special.

Creating Elite Dangerous was a huge undertaking, give it time and let the game develop. There's still a lot more to come yet. But, at the end of the day FD can't please everyone. I'm just glad they've not succumbed to pressure by turning ED into some kind of Frankenstein game to attempt to please all that's neither here or there.
 
OK, TL;DR all the posts but I'll add my $0.02.

I stopped recommending games to friends long ago. I have always played Flight/Space sim type games (started with Decent). I learned that unless they have a desire to play these type pf games they will not enjoy it. I have even given away Joysticks/old HOTAS to friends to try to get them to play combat flight sims only to have them say "too hard, I keep getting killed and can't kill anyone". Which is true, they are really hard and it takes a lot of time and practice to "git gud" which they are not willing to do. Elite is not exactly like that but it does take some time to learn and lets face it fighting in a spice ship is not like fighting in an FPS or fighting game. Also, there is not the whole "save the universe" theme here, which is something I like but many others don't. I like racing games also but cannot get any of my friends to even try those.

For Elite you have to:
1. Be a real Sci-Fi fan.
2. Like vehicle games. Especially flight.
3. Not want to be the hero! Because let's face it, no one is a hero in this game.

It touches a lot of bases for me, but then, I'm weird like that! :D

PS: One post I read near the start said that their friends got killed as soon as they left the station in their Sidey! Well, I kind of find that hard to believe but maybe it is because I am on XBOX. I was not killed by an NPC until maybe 2 weeks in and well that was my fault for interdicting a wing in my Sidey. Learned that lesson (and that death costs!). I did not see a single human player for the 1st 2 months in this game! I have yet to be killed by a human player but then I don't frequent CGs for just that reason. I just recently got a Python after 4 months in game.

I do agree there should be more for explorers to do, like finding a forming accretion disk or jumping to a star large star and getting "Warning, stellar nova may be immanent!" then you could return to nearby systems with the hope of recording the nova. Binary systems where one star is devouring the other, Planetary nebulae, etc.
 
My video game playing friends are overwhelmingly from the TF2 and QL competitive communities. My chances of getting any of them into a game like Elite are precisely nil. So I play those games with those friends, and play Elite with people I meet in Elite.
 
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