Type 6 or Python?

Cmdr Scorpion

Cmdr Scorpion
I have just started using a Type6 with a jump range of 26 Lys for long distance missions and doing quite well (better than bounty hunting at the moment)
My question, is the Python any better and if so is there a good build
 

Muzz UK

Muzz UK
Python you get more but it costs a whole lot more. Type 6 is good for trading, minig and exploring. Python will give you that and guns plus shields. Python cant explore as well as a Type 6 in terms of range though. Its whether you have money to burn. Check out edshipyard to price up a build
 
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Hajile

Hajile
is a trade ship better than a multipurpose ship...

no not really but the python is a beautiful expensive ship that will love you forever. the t6 doesn't care about you.
 

goemon

goemon
python has much more cargo, so as a trader/miner it is for sure the better ship - if you have the money for it. you'll need at least 85 mio to buy and outfit a usefull trading python.

there are three reasons, why you might want to stick with a t6

1. it is faster. an a graded t6 is quite safe because it can outrun most ships ingame. a python can't withoout heavy engineering, it needs more defense, and you'll need to get more into combat flying it - and that requires some basic FAOFF in a python.

2. npc spawns depend on ship type. flying a python will bring more dangerous NPC spawns.

3. you love the t6.

steve_muzz said:
Python cant explore as well as a Type 6 in terms of range though.
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not sure what you are referring to. python is very much enderestimated as an exploration vessel. on long distance races it is as fast as a DBE, and its stripped jumprange is far above average (it even beats a cobra). whether the even better capability of a t6 on longdistances races makes it a better explorer, highly depends what kind of exploration you do. both can reach any destination in the galaxy with jumponium or engineering. both can't be record breakers.
 

Ozram

Ozram
Not an either or really. I still love my T6 and it is an excellent and fairly safe mission runner if you set it up right. The rebuy is also quite reasonable should worse come to worst.
The Python is the only ship that can deliver large loads to outposts. It is a great multipurpose chassis but the real uniqueness is there. Missions to outposts above a certain threshold of cargo can only be taken by Pythons.
I'd say keep the T6 and enjoy it and set it up as best you can and when you have 180 + million CR to spare, then add a Python to your fleet.
 

Paineframe

P
Use an Asp - it beats the T6 in every way except cost, but if you can afford a Python you will have no problem outfitting an Asp.
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
Paineframe said:
Use an Asp - it beats the T6 in every way except cost, but if you can afford a Python you will have no problem outfitting an Asp.
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If you have enough to outfit a Python and rebuy, I'd go with that. Python has more than double the cargo room.
 

Arry

Arry
Python, just on what I have read over the years here. At the same time, you get what you pay for. I did some smuggling in a Type6; as a step up from my Cobra, for cargo space. Obviously, I was not too happy with the T-6s performance, having to boost from the back of station, just to get out un-scanned, is not my idea of fun, especially in the glass house the T-6 can be. So I went back to the Cobra and took the hit on cargo space. Getting what you pay for; T-6 can be made good for a few million. Pythons, need 10s of millions for a better job.
 

DNA-Decay

DNA-Decay
I have a soft spot for the T-6, but I just bought a Python.
The Python cost me 95 MCr but it's a ways off A rated. The trap is that the full size PowerPlant is nearly 50 MCr by itself. And without it you're shuffling power to modules.

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DNA-Decay

DNA-Decay
Well, I was hoping to learn "big ship" combat in it, but without the big powerplant I can't run all the SCBs and things to be able to soak damage. It's an expensive rebuy too when you make a mistake.

Had a bit of a go at a compromised Nav beacon in a wing with an AEDC chap in a Vulture. (Thanks Helfar - appreciated)
That went okay, but I was grateful for another set of eyes, and getting the guns into a firing solution - I was just constantly out turned and really relied on Helfar's back up. Mind you - Three 3C Multicannons sure strip the paint off things when you do get a good shot.
 

koop26

koop26
I did the edshipyard of a trading Python, and without a discount, it's sits at about 70 million credits. This is with no guns, D rated, small power plant and small shields. A similar setup with a T6 is probably 3 million credits. We're talking a massive gulf between the two ships in terms of affordability.

But a Python eats the T6's lunch as a trader and would replace it to my mind. Currently I have a trade Clipper and a T6 for bubble work, but i'm eyeing a Python as the eventual bubble working replacement to both ships.
 

CoyoteNZ

C
I find the python good for missions as well as having a large cargo size, it is able to land on outposts which only have medium pad size.

Then again my missions are mainly delivery; can't comment on combat missions.
 

PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
I went from a T6 -> Aspx -> Python.

The money gap between the T6 and Python is huge - so set your expectations for a longish haul.

The T6 is amazing value for money, relatively cheap to buy/upgrade/repair and, excepting combat, good at everything I tried it for. It has great speed, superb jump range, and plenty of internal slots. I'd rate this as one of the best vaule for money ships in the game.

The Asp I found was a huge and expensive disappointment by comparison, and imho overrated. The T6 does nearly as good a job in many regards, for way less money.

The Python is now my main ship (...at least until storage...) and is proving an amazing all-rounder, even if it is a bit on the slow side and unjumpy. However I can see no reason to go back to the T6 unless maybe I wanted to go exploring.

Bottom line, the T6 and Python aren't really comparable, not at the price difference.
 
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Arkadi

Arkadi
T6:
+ jump range
+ good boost-spead
+ cheap

Python:
+ has a lot of internals compartments: can equip strong shields, shield cells, hullreinforcments - or anything else you like (limpelts, refinery, multiple srvs) and still has enough cargospace for haulage.
+ combat ability

I admit I love the python. What I have read you are not in for combat. But with the python that might change. There are not many ships I run from anymore. The python is tanky and can deliver some damage. Turrets will make life easy for you. It's a really good allrounder. Also I really like the power of its up/down thrusters. Using those alone gives the python quite more agiltiy then most think it has.

Also travelling with the python is quite easy inspite of the lower jumprange. Due to the big fuel tank (5C) it can go a good range before scooping. And you certainly have place for a good fuelscoop.

Also the python has a great energy capacity - maybe you want a heat sink if you use shield-cells or some heat intense weaponry. Else you won't have any heat issues too.

As all others sayed: you should have a credit balance of at least 120+ million credit to equip some better modules and play it save. Your rebuy costs will easyly go over 5 millions with the python. Dont use the python "naked" as it comes from the shipyard. You will not be happy.


Thats the outfit I use atm - its a combat/mission fit. Some modules are B / C rated only becouse I cant afford the full A-Grades yet. Still the ship makes me very happy with this setup.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/python/1...BYEYzAmXKIdOtzpEA===?bn=ak No1 Friedenspanzer
 
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Ozram

Ozram
Arkadi said:
T6:
+ jump range
+ cheap

Python:
+ has a lot of internals compartments: can equip strong shields, shield cells, hullreinforcments - or anything else you like (limpelts, refinery, multiple srvs) and still has enough cargospace for haulage.
+ combat ability

I admit I love the python. What I have read you are not in for combat. But with the python that might change. There are not many ships I run from anymore. The python is tanky and can deliver some damage. Turrets will make life easy for you. It's a really good allrounder. Also I really like the power of its up/down thrusters. Using those alone gives the python quite more agiltiy then most think it has.

Also travelling with the python is quite easy inspite of the lower jumprange. Due to the big fuel tank it can go a good range before scooping. And you certainly have place for a good fuelscoop.
Also the python has a great energy capacity - maybe you want a heat sink if you use shield-cells or a some heat intense weaponry. Else you wont have any heat issues too.

As all others sayed: you should have a credit balance of at least 100.000 to equip some better modules and play it save. Your rebuy costs will easyly go over 5 millions with the python.
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Yep, this is my mission runner Python and the rebuy is just over 7 million (that's with a rated pp one size down from the max). It can fight some foes reasonably well but still has to run from quite a number of confrontations.
https://coriolis.io/outfit/python/2...54f37040329C02f.Iw18eQ==.Aw1-gjOQ?bn=Nemesis
 

Phord Prefect

Phord Prefect
Python +1

Engineered FSD I've gotten mine to 20.6 loaded, almost 23 ly empty. 160 cargo.

Armed to the teeth. 1 Large Plasma Accel. 2 Large Multicannon. 2 Med Turreted Beam.

Boosts to 400 m/s ( thanks again Felicity ). I'm humping the Sirius grind for Qwent atm. On the path to L5 Dirty Drives.

It's become my daily driver. If you're around Sothis, give me a wave.
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