Type-9 or Type-10 for mining?

Maolagin

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CMDR Karrde Sun said:
Really? Must be doing something wrong then because i run 6 limpets and they're playing catchup on just the output of one medium laser. Painite only. (That is, i stop lasering well before the limpets are done. You would only need more if your limpets are waiting under your ship).
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Yeah, you're definitely doing something wrong in that case. The recommendation on the mining subreddit is three limpets per medium mining laser. Hard to say what's wrong exactly without watching you at work, but I'd definitely suggest perusing their laser mining guide.

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CMDR Karrde Sun

CMDR Karrde Sun
Maolagin said:
Yeah, you're definitely doing something wrong in that case. The recommendation on the mining subreddit is three limpets per medium mining laser. Hard to say what's wrong exactly without watching you at work, but I'd definitely suggest perusing their laser mining guide.

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Does that actually happen though? Turn off all but one laser and see if your limpets are ever idle from a painite rock with an average percentage.

The only thing i could be doing wrong is leaving my ship too far away and not at the perfect distance + angle ontop of the fragments.. but i usually use that time to go prospecting again. Still will give it a try next time thanks for the lead.

No wait that's impossible you have to shoot the rock still.. hmm...

So what you're saying is the moment you finish lasering or there abouts you move onto the next rock? Maybe possible but for me there are just too many fragments for this to seem like a target to min max for.. hmmmmm....
 
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Getting as close to the rock as possible and lining up the ship so the fragments are below you significantly speed up the collection process.
 

M00ka

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Maolagin said:
Yeah, you're definitely doing something wrong in that case. The recommendation on the mining subreddit is three limpets per medium mining laser. Hard to say what's wrong exactly without watching you at work, but I'd definitely suggest perusing their laser mining guide.

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Guess I am mining wrong then. My ship of choice for mining, either strip or core is a Krait Mk II. 128T of cargo space, 3A refinery (8 bins), and a single 5A Collector. Yep only 3 limpets available, and most of the time I only have two going at once.

See for me mining isn't a race, there is no bonus if I fill the Krait with 134T of goodies in an hour or in three hours. It is all about well the tranquility of gliding through the ring, well it is to me anyway :D In fact I have found that 128 - well 134T is the perfect amount for me, anything more than that and I start getting bored, very bored in fact.

If mining became a race, I can guarantee I would be forced to find a new role for my Krait because I wouldn't be mining anymore !
 

Masta Squidge

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JetsonRING said:
Thing is, I can haul this in a Corvette and am looking for more cargo capacity. o7
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... what I linked has 512+10 tons of capacity lol. What exactly are you looking for again? If you drop the scoop and shield you can get 640 tons.

I am actually legitimately confused. The cutter offers both the highest mining rates and capacities available.
 

Masta Squidge

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CMDR Karrde Sun said:
Does that actually happen though? Turn off all but one laser and see if your limpets are ever idle from a painite rock with an average percentage.

The only thing i could be doing wrong is leaving my ship too far away and not at the perfect distance + angle ontop of the fragments.. but i usually use that time to go prospecting again. Still will give it a try next time thanks for the lead.

No wait that's impossible you have to shoot the rock still.. hmm...

So what you're saying is the moment you finish lasering or there abouts you move onto the next rock? Maybe possible but for me there are just too many fragments for this to seem like a target to min max for.. hmmmmm....
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Here you go mate. I am not exactly... ideal, but when I am doing it properly the collectors are done right about the time I have found my next rock with prospectors.
Of note is at about the 12:30 mark. That asteroid is emptied and the limpets are done within a few seconds.


Source: https://youtu.be/upjqu51sNCo
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
JetsonRING said:
What advantages if any are there to using either one of them over the other for mining? I have a T-10 and think it probably offers more hardpoint flexibility but that is not so much a consideration for me as module slots and cargo capacity. I am currently mining using a Corvette but if one of the T-types can haul more cargo with the same number of mining modules I might switch. Thanks for your feedback. o7
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Presumably, you're talking about laser-mining, right?
If you want to go DC-mining, the T9 and T10 aren't a good choice.

T9 has a slightly more useful selection of slots, which allows you to build a better mining ship.
I run 3x C2 mining lasers and Collectors in one FG and 2x C1 mining lances and a Prospector in another FG.
The PDist isn't really big enough to run all the lasers together so I fire off a Prospector and then shoot with the lances until I get within 500m of the roid and then switch to the other FG.

T9 obviously, in that configuration, has no defensive weapons at all.
It's also horrendously slow and sluggish so you're enirely defensive when travelling.
Best form of defence is to constantly watch your scanner and be prepared to make emergency SC drop-outs if anything looks iffy or you get "tasty cargo" messages, then jump away.
Also, T9 only has 4x utility slots so you need to think about whether to fit SBs/PDs/Chaff etc.


T10 has slightly less useful slots so it can't be optimised for mining quite as well as the T9.
It's slightly faster and slightly more agile.
I run the same mining laser setup as on the T9 but then I also have 2x large beams and 2x large MCs for defence.


If you're absolutely determined to maximise your mining efficiency, you should probably go for a T9 and then try to avoid hostile ships - by playing in Solo/PGs and running away from NPCs that even look at you funny.
If you're more interested in flying a well-rounded ship that can look after itself, at the expense of ultimate mining ability, go for the T10 instead.

Mining T9: https://s.orbis.zone/50h0
Mining T10: https://s.orbis.zone/4tmu

Also, here's a build (incomplete) for a mining Cutter I thought about building but, honestly, I'm happy with the T9/T10.

Mining Cutter: https://s.orbis.zone/4bw-
 
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B.Roberts

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JetsonRING said:
Do you have a mining Cutter build posted on any of the shipyard sites?
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Cutter defenitely one of the best miners out there. Here is the Cutter that I'm using for painite mining. It is somewhat overkill for the task because it was a combat ready ship that got converted for mining. On the other hand still able to kill some pirates with 518 tons of painite on board.

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CMDR Karrde Sun

CMDR Karrde Sun
Masta Squidge said:
Here you go mate. I am not exactly... ideal, but when I am doing it properly the collectors are done right about the time I have found my next rock with prospectors.
Of note is at about the 12:30 mark. That asteroid is emptied and the limpets are done within a few seconds.


Source: https://youtu.be/upjqu51sNCo
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Hey thanks for that, yeah im no way near that close to the asteroid when setting off the lasers. Sounds like a plan, will give it a go.
 

Masta Squidge

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JetsonRING said:
Have you tried the Coriolis Shipyard? IMO easier to use and link. Anyhow I just turned my Cutter into a semblance of yours but, I had more shield boosters so I kept them fitted. Still, using only 67% available power. :) Got 250 limpets and heading out ... o7
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Market connector opens up an edsy link for your ship export. And frankly its much better than coriolis. And im way more familiar with coriolis as well because I always used that.

It really doesn't work that great without weapon recharge though.
 

CMDR DragonHorn

CMDR DragonHorn
T9 because:
  • It's dirty cheap
  • Can do any and all kinds of mining
  • Has near infinite cargo hold
  • Doesn't have stupid sport car spoiler
  • Looks and handles like a real space truck

In terms of defending itself, T10 is pointless, because AI behavior is too easy to exploit not to ever bother you, and aren't threat even a little bit outside of ring, while ganker wing will still take apart in moments any dedicated miner ship.
 

BirdWisdom

BirdWisdom
JetsonRING said:
What advantages if any are there to using either one of them over the other for mining? I have a T-10 and think it probably offers more hardpoint flexibility but that is not so much a consideration for me as module slots and cargo capacity. I am currently mining using a Corvette but if one of the T-types can haul more cargo with the same number of mining modules I might switch. Thanks for your feedback. o7
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I mining Painite without any shield or fuel scoops with my Cutter in Hyades sector db-x d1-112 2 works fine for me but if I need to switch ship with my 512 tons of painite and 10 from refinery I just do that in Kratman Hub;)
 
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Kzak

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My Mining Cutter. 3x Mining Lances equipped, their 2-km range let me mine an asteroid, then continue mining nearby viable asteroids while the 9 collector limpets pick up fragments from the first asteroid.
 

CMDR X

CMDR X
Type-9 advantages = zero.
Types-10 advantages = 4 Large Overcharged Multicanonns and 2 Medium HiCap Overload Pack Hounds.

Any questions?

X.
 
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