U16

I thought U16 was the feature revamp- is it yet more Goids?
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Yep. You're thinking of U17.
(assuming plans don't change)
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I hate to be Desmond Doom of Doomsville, but so far recent stuff is not not setting the world on fire- so unless non Steam numbers are chipper/ U16 is 4K Aisling footpix, adding more Goids (unless its actual Goids to scare our trousers off) its adding a double helping of stuff that is not sorting out EDs problems.....

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yuh NO WAT i WANT fRONTER

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adding more Goids (unless its actual Goids to scare our trousers off) its adding a double helping of stuff that is not sorting out EDs problems.....
Though, of course, one of the major criticisms Frontier gets regularly is that it has a tendency to release a basic feature, then if it isn't an instant hit, assume that's due to lack of interest in the concept rather than the implementation not being solid enough (CQC, multicrew, criminal activities, etc.) and leave it in that state permanently.

The initial U14 release of the war was a pretty big hit - going back to that with additional balancing, more variety of scenarios, and some tuning of the strategic layer I think makes sense, even if it doesn't translate immediately into increased player numbers.
 
Though, of course, one of the major criticisms Frontier gets regularly is that it has a tendency to release a basic feature, then if it isn't an instant hit, assume that's due to lack of interest in the concept rather than the implementation not being solid enough (CQC, multicrew, criminal activities, etc.) and leave it in that state permanently.

The initial U14 release of the war was a pretty big hit - going back to that with additional balancing, more variety of scenarios, and some tuning of the strategic layer I think makes sense, even if it doesn't translate immediately into increased player numbers.
Under normal conditions I'd say something intelligent here, but I'm still in angry toddler mode.

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back to planet adult

U15 IMO should have shared with another update, because the longer one very narrow aspect takes the limelight its disenfranchising those waiting for the rest of the game to get love. Take the feature rework- it went from being odds on to now being 'we are looking at it' to...well, back to rumour. We still don't know what it is, when its coming etc.

I will say FD are between a rock and a hard place, mainly of their own making. Things like CQC, Powerplay, engineering etc would not be problems if FD had used the EDO update methodology with regular small incremental changes over time. So rather than a monolithic view each area and feature got something (like most other games do).

What I fear is that FD have left it too late for many aspects, and I think they realise it too. They screwed up engineering, balance, neglected Powerplay, CQC, forgotten about Fed ships, T-7, Asp Scout etc and left in many longstanding issues that could only really be meaningfully fixed early on (preventing long term misuse and decay). Saying that FD have done much better with the BGS, story and its synergy- its just to me they've misunderstood the underpinnings drive the game, and forgotten what game they wanted to make (and instead let it meander aimlessly).
 
Update 16 and 17 will be more thargoid stuff. The feature update/revamp got pushed back, we find out what that is towards the end of the year (according to Arf and Sally). I’m still hoping that it’s a kind up BGS / Powerplay merge.

I wouldn’t worry about the steam numbers they always drop mid year and then normally pick up again after everyone is back off their holidays. Although I have noticed a drop off in players getting involved in the thargoid war at the moment, mostly due to the glave causing difficulties. I must admit when I’m trying to get somewhere and your hyperdicted by two gloves, it’s not fun.
 
hyperdicted by two gloves, it’s not fun.
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I think making U16 and 17 Goids is a mistake in my book- while numbers do go up and down recently they have trended much lower than the 'baseline'. Given another game is being released that ticks boxes for a lot of people on these forums (which themselves are far less busy these days too) I hope FD know what they are doing.
 
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I think making U16 and 17 Goids is a mistake in my book- while numbers do go up and down recently they have trended much lower than the 'baseline'. Given another game is being released that ticks boxes for a lot of people on these forums (which themselves are far less busy these days too) I hope FD know what they are doing.
F🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 apple auto correct! I hate that. Yeah, a lot of people are saying it’s an elite killer. They were saying that about NMS too. We’ll have to wait and see. However, it’s too late to change course and make U16 and 17 not about the thargoids. As Arf and Sally have said in Lave Radio, these updates have been planned and been in development for months, they can’t shelve that to try and shoehorn something else in. It’s like changing course in a oil tanker.
 
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