UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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Yes, gravity is the weakest force, but where would we be today without it? Dark matter is responsible for holding galaxies together, without it the universe would look very different than it does now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

Yes, of course. Over a long time a very large amount of something that does almost nothing can have a great effect. A single drop of water does almost nothing to a mountain, and yet given enough water and enough time the mountain will be reduced to sand. That doesn't invalidate the original statement. Another example I added to that previous post: there is a 10kg lump of lead sitting on the ground. What does it do? Almost nothing. Well 10kg of dark matter does far less than that.
 
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And here's a video I recorded last night of UA Sivert being dropped at 0.18ls from a neutron star.
Bear in mind this was recorded hours before insidah posted so it isn't a response to their posting, but the timing fits well.
(Please be patient, YT is still processing it
http://youtu.be/br63Rxnnv7o

The only things I noticed with this particular test were:
  • The purple cloud trail started off as usual, but ended up being directed away from the neutron star.
  • The forward pointer of the target reticle for the UA ended up pointing almost directly at the neutron star.
  • This UA has the "horns" that others have noticed before. I don't remember seeing them on the last UA I carried.
Other than that, there wasn't anything else noteworthy about the test.

Yes I remember these 'horns'... And I remember they got sidelined faster than I was able to say this last time:

If you have to nigh identical 'organisms', one has horns and one doesn't, if you're on Earth you'd say you had a male & female...
 
Somebody here found *SSs out in that direction, 600-800ly out from Sol (might have been Clavain actually, but anyway the posts are somewhere about 30 pages back probably by now)...

Whoever it was, anyway, when they went to the next system, the SSs stopped again.

Little islands of systems giving up signal sources smells mightily of fish...

I feel for people in these systems, though - the interminable nature of flying around waiting for a contact is difficult to endure.

It was Synuefai DL-V d3-20 out by HR 1113, probably about 2rds of the way from the Pleiades to the California nebula. I had 2 WSS in just a few minutes. Didn't see any more SS until I was much closer to the Pleiades.

Incidentally I'm only seeing a few SS of any sort per hour around the Pleiades today.

Edit: of course, having just said that, I've just got a USS and a WSS in quick succession in HIP 17403.
 
Yes I remember these 'horns'... And I remember they got sidelined faster than I was able to say this last time:

If you have to nigh identical 'organisms', one has horns and one doesn't, if you're on Earth you'd say you had a male & female...

That is what I was thinking LordZoltan.
Could anyone holding a UA please drop it and take a look at the top of the head to see if it has "horns" or if it is "smooth"?
Maybe mention which system you checked it in as well, just in case there's a correlation (which I wouldn't expect there to be).
 
Yes, of course. Over a long time a very large amount of something that does almost nothing can have a great effect. A single drop of water does almost nothing to a mountain, and yet given enough water and enough time the mountain will be reduced to sand. That doesn't invalidate the original statement. Another example I added to that previous post: there is a 10kg lump of lead sitting on the ground. What does it do? Almost nothing. Well 10kg of dark matter does far less than that.

If you want to talk in a human timeframe, don't expect much to get done. We're just a speck in time compared to the age of the universe. You can't expect a proto-planetary disk to become the solar system overnight, or even in the entire history of mankind. But given time there is great impact.
 
It was Synuefai DL-V d3-20 out by HR 1113, probably about 2rds of the way from the Pleiades to the California nebula. I had 2 WSS in just a few minutes. Didn't see any more SS until I was much closer to the Pleiades.

Incidentally I'm only seeing a few SS of any sort per hour around the Pleiades today.

Edit: of course, having just said that, I've just got a USS and a WSS in quick succession in HIP 17403.

Excellent, thanks for the clarification RedWizzard :)
 
By the way, according to a recent article it appears that Dark Matter MAY be interacting with other Dark Matter.
Here's a link to a quite understable piece about this -> https://briankoberlein.com/2015/04/23/the-dark-side/

Other than that I would just like to remind everybody that this current Dark Matter discussion stems from the suggestion about highly theoretical Quark Stars (which in fact, if they exist, might be what we think of as Black Holes) with a relation to Dark Matter, even though this kind of relation quite likely doesn't exist any more than a relation between myself and Dark Matter, or the Sun and Dark Matter, if we want to stay with stellar objects.

We could equally argue whether a drunk person lying on the ground does something. He may not be having much of an effect on his surroundings, but he's certainly breathing, which I think we'll all agree is something rather than nothing. If he's really doing nothing, you may wanna go find a good hiding place.
 
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Really because this video by Rauminen the markings only stay lit for 9 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtjZQINtkTo



Zeniths lasts for a full 24 seconds, that's a huge difference. I relly hope its not something simple like the longer the artifact stays lit up for the closer your getting to the source.

No, he's right - very long system names, especially those with numbers in (like the auto-gen'd names) take an age to Morse out. Numbers especially because each number is a sequence of 5 dit/dah combinations (or 'greeble'/'gwarble' if you're going for an authentic accent ;)).

If that's then near a planet or, worse still, a moon, it's a lot of designations to get through!
 
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No, he's right - very long system names, especially those with numbers in (like the auto-gen'd names) take an age to Morse out. Numbers especially because each number is 5 tones of dit/dah combinations. If that's then near a planet or, worse still, a moon, it's a lot of designations to get through!



Gee I hope so. I had a sad feeling it may have been a countdown clock for some future date and that as we get closer it lasts longer. That would really suck. But from a dev point of view that's not something new.
 
That's partly why we assumed at one stage they might be nav beacons, or equivalents - since they don't move and broadcast their location. Some said they decay in space, but we speculated (correctly, as it turned out) that maybe they only decay after being scooped and dropped, we didn't know for certain they always decayed when floating around. Ultimately, another dead-end though.

I do like the idea that maybe they're just Thargoid waste, and we're listening to it, and poking it, and hauling it halfway around the galaxy, and hoarding it and adoring it. To the Thargoids, we must look like silly little insects, trawling through their trash and treasuring it.

Much like a dung beetle does to us?
 
Really because this video by Rauminen the markings only stay lit for 9 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtjZQINtkTo



Zeniths lasts for a full 24 seconds, that's a huge difference. I relly hope its not something simple like the longer the artifact stays lit up for the closer your getting to the source.

Dr Evanzan's lasts for 12 seconds.

I'm not sure I follow your point, "Bast" is short, 27 Gamma Cassiopea is "long". 9 seconds vs 24.
 
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By the way, according to a recent article it appears that Dark Matter MAY be interacting with other Dark Matter.
Here's a link to a quite understable piece about this -> https://briankoberlein.com/2015/04/23/the-dark-side/

Other than that I would just like to remind everybody that this current Dark Matter discussion stems from the suggestion about highly theoretical Quark Stars (which in fact, if they exist, might be what we think of as Black Holes) with a relation to Dark Matter, even though this kind of relation quite likely doesn't exist any more than a relation between myself and Dark Matter, or the Sun and Dark Matter, if we want to stay with stellar objects.

We could equally argue whether a drunk person lying on the ground does something. He may not be having much of an effect on his surroundings, but he's certainly breathing, which I think we'll all agree is something rather than nothing. If he's really doing nothing, you may wanna go find a good hiding place.

Interaction between dark matter particles would likely imply a fundamental force we haven't discovered. That'd be very exciting.

As for the drunk guy, if he's doing nothing because you just ran him over, yeah, you've got problems. But in the context of this argument, lying there dead is doing a whole lot more than dark matter does.
 
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As for the drunk guy, if he's doing nothing because you just ran him over, yeah, you've got problems. But in the context of this argument, lying there dead is doing a whole lot more than dark matter does.
Yeah, true. When you're dead you can't do much, but you certainly can decompose.
 
I'm not sure I follow your point, "Bast" is short, 27 Gamma Cassiopea is "long". 9 seconds vs 24.



Ah ok I see your point now. Thanks

So can we take to longestest named system in the Galaxy and see if it shorts out from noise and signal overload.

By the way can these things be found in solo play?
 
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Actually, I suspect the *SS drops off depending on distance. When I made the trip out to the California Nebula (wonderful view and very friendly customer service) I didn't notice any *SSes popping up when good and well past the Pleiades. Someone suggested it might be 200ly, it might also be that it works based on distance * RNG, so the further away, the smaller the chance.

Still, with all these figures, if someone experiences differently, that's always interesting since it removes false theories.

Right now the theories are:
- In the populated bubble you can find convoy UAs
- In the Pleiades you can find free floating UAs

If anyone finds free floating UAs inside the bubble or in a different area than around the Pleiades, that would be very useful information.

I was getting *SS right up to the two HR Something Something B class stars right by the Californian.

I suspect that the further out the longer the mean time to appear it is for signal sources

I have no seen any since passing rimwards from the Californian
 
Yes I remember these 'horns'... And I remember they got sidelined faster than I was able to say this last time:

If you have to nigh identical 'organisms', one has horns and one doesn't, if you're on Earth you'd say you had a male & female...

You can see them quite well in this image from Bitstorm (UA Top.png): https://drive.google.com/folderview...RpMWxPMGxsOXhrUTZzUExXbl9JRmtMVElQLUFYWWhvYms

Those horns look a lot like claws to me. They are not identical. There are at least two different shapes. I don't know which way to split correctly, but FD has used the male/female in a pod previously.

In the 'Deep Space Romeo and Juliet' story from FFE, they were human in alien clothing.

If it's male and female, it's probably not Thargoids. They should be all female. At least those flying about in space.
 
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Yeah, true. When you're dead you can't do much, but you certainly can decompose.

And block light (and other EM radiation), get in the way of things, etc.

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By the way can these things be found in solo play?

Yes, they can. There is a theory that they might be easier to find in wings but that could be just due to the number of people looking for SSS at the same time.
 
CMDRs,
I took the the UA Pandora to the Water World found in Pleiades Sector GW-W C1-15.
Nothing unusual about the sound.

http://youtu.be/SQkunbe0uHQ

Then I took the UA to MAIA B Black Hole, I ejected it, I started recording a video, and all of sudden....
A BLOODY BLACK OUT IN ALL MY QUARTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the UA Pandora was lost, the Video was still recording and was lost as well, and my patience...

I thrown myself back to the hunt, and I found very nice spawns in HR 1172: lots of WSS and USS, some SSS, but no UA...



I tried it just before my UA "passed by"...

virtual rep to you thanks for trying.
 
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