UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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Michael Brookes

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But Michael, I guess that is my point above - how do we know this? Unless we can somehow clearly see feedback that our actions are changing or triggering things, and when and how, it might as well just be a fixed storyline, as we will never know what effect we had on it. That is not very rewarding for folks who have literally committed hundreds of hours, or more, to this.

In some cases that will be possible, but in others it kind of reveals what's going on and we aren't far enough in the storyline for the reveals yet.

Edit: Another issue is that we're not always able to react, although some of the changes for 1.4 will help with that.

Michael
 
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I keep having this nagging thought when looking at the UA. What if the segmented part of the body are actually 4 separate tripods? A tripod would be the simplest stable platform. The circles on the end of each pod could be adjustable feet or could connect to 3 ports. I can't see anything on the UA body that would prevent each section of 3 legs from detaching from the main body.

We know planetary landings have been in development for longer than the UA mystery. We know the UA mystery will evolve through Horizons. What if the UA could deploy those tripods onto a planetary surface? I can't figure out exactly why it would need to do that, but I think it's worth considering as a possible function. At the very least I don't think we should discount that the UA could technically stand upright on it's own.
 
Well this has been an interesting read today - Thank you Michael for your comments ! Im looking forward to seeing how things develop. Also scratching my head as to what we partially triggered and what we still have yet to ....
 
The wiki says that UA's have been found as 'salvage' out near the plaedies nebula. Can anyone shjne light on that or do I need to trawl through a lot of posts....?
 
Actually that's not true. Some changes were planned, but others have been added or changed in response to player activities with the UA.

Thanks.

I think I see what you mean, in that this is the first event of this type for both the players and the FD staff and the story or future plans have likely been adjusted as things unfold.

In game feedback either immediate or a few days later would be good, for example when a UA exploded inside Crown Gateway a Galnet article was written which subsequently got published which (at least) I felt was an acknowledgement by Frontier of an awareness of the event. This then put us (the players) in a reasonable position to draw conclusions depending on whether an outbreak subsequently occurred or did not occur at the station.
 
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Michael Brookes

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Thanks.

I think I see what you mean, in that this is the first event of this type for both the players and the FD staff and the story or future plans have likely been adjusted as things unfold.

In game feedback either immediate or a few days later would be good, for example when a UA exploded inside Crown Gateway a Galnet article was written which subsequently got published which (at least) I felt was an acknowledgement by Frontier of an awareness of the event which then put us (the player) in a reasonable position to draw conclusions whether an outbreak subsequently occurred or did not occur at the station.

Where possible we'll make the connection, however some things are being foreshadowed or even have a storyline of years. In many cases the changes in direction aren't obvious unless it's a conflict - such as stopping the Cerberus plague. With the UA it's all a bit more subtle - for now anyway :)

Michael
 
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*At least, that's what was indicated on the Outfitting page... Seems a little high now that I think of it, but... eh...
 
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In some cases that will be possible, but in others it kind of reveals what's going on and we aren't far enough in the storyline for the reveals yet.

Edit: Another issue is that we're not always able to react, although some of the changes for 1.4 will help with that.

Michael

Fair enough, and I understand the complexities involved in both storyline and game features and appreciate the efforts involved. I know in many ways the UA was a bit of a trial run that took on a life of its own far beyond anyone's expectations I suspect. But I know I feel frustrated, and likely others too, that we have not had many indications of progress, or hints of what it is even we are looking for, or where to look once we have a UA/what to do with it, and what storyline(s) the UA is connected to, if there are other connections. Not necessarily the big reveals, but just having regular weekly or monthly hints in-game in Galnet or by other means to give us the sense of being on the right track or the wrong track or a complete dead-end, and to prevent us going round and round in circles.

For example, recently reading back through Galnet I noticed the last Soontill Relics piece mentioned that it was only after sales at Sol and Achenar that the research progressed. I had sold some there around that same time, but have no idea if it was my actions, or my actions combined with others, that is being referenced, or if it was just a neat line to have in the text. And I only noticed that a few days ago, not back in May when it first appeared. So I get that this sort of thing is tricky, but perhaps there need to be more small reveals along the way to the big ones. Thanks.
 
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Where possible we'll make the connection, however some things are being foreshadowed or even have a storyline of years. In many cases the changes in direction aren't obvious unless it's a conflict - such as stopping the Cerberus plague. With the UA it's all a bit more subtle - for now anyway :)

Michael
Fortunately, we're all scientists here. We can do subtle. After all, that's what they invented the microscope for. ;)
 
In some cases that will be possible, but in others it kind of reveals what's going on and we aren't far enough in the storyline for the reveals yet.

Edit: Another issue is that we're not always able to react, although some of the changes for 1.4 will help with that.

Michael

This last para was what I was going to suggest, in FD's defence, before getting ninja'd.

I think it's the case that there's limited scope right now for the team to respond to what players do in-game; not just manually, but also in terms of scripted events that can kick off when something is done.

I still think whatever we've not got yet is knowledge that's self-describing, not something triggered by some mechanism hitherto unseen. It'll be a place that's obviously 'different' - like a higher rate SSS spawn or something.

It's entirely possible that some of the many theories that have been suggested here will have contributed to new 'events' and 'triggers' that can be scripted for in a future release, because they're good ideas. Only one person here knows ;)

If that's the case then that, actually, could cause us more headaches :)

But it would give more interactivity, richness and texture to the galaxy, which is what I definitely want.
 

Michael Brookes

Game Director
Fair enough, and I understand the complexities involved in both storyline and game features and appreciate the efforts involved. I know in many ways the UA was a bit of a trial run that took on a life of its own far beyond anyone's expectations I suspect. But I know I feel frustrated, and likely others too, that we have not had many indications of progress, or hints of what it is even we are looking for, or where to look once we have a UA/what to do with it, and what storyline(s) the UA is connected to, if there are other connections. Not necessarily the big reveals, but just having regular weekly or monthly hints in-game in Galnet or by other means to give us the sense of being on the right track or the wrong track or a complete dead-end, and to prevent us going round and round in circles.

For example, recently reading back through Galnet I noticed the last Soontill Relics piece mentioned that it was only after sales at Sol and Achenar that the research progressed. I had sold some there around that same time, but have no idea if it was my actions, or my actions combined with others, that is being referenced, or if it was just a neat line to have in the text. And I only noticed that a few days ago, not back in May when it first appeared. So I get that this sort of thing is tricky, but perhaps there need to be more small reveals along the way to the big ones. Thanks.

It's also worth noting that the UA is something different from the usual storylines because it lacks context that the stories like the Emperor's death. It is is a mystery in the depths of space and it's not going to be easy to unravel, but you will have plenty of opportunity to do so. And it is fair comment to have some of those changes reflected somehow and that is definitely in the plan.

Michael
 
Where possible we'll make the connection, however some things are being foreshadowed or even have a storyline of years. In many cases the changes in direction aren't obvious unless it's a conflict - such as stopping the Cerberus plague. With the UA it's all a bit more subtle - for now anyway :)

Michael

Ah crap, you are making it up as you go along, I knew it.
 
For example, recently reading back through Galnet I noticed the last Soontill Relics piece mentioned that it was only after sales at Sol and Achenar that the research progressed. I had sold some there around that same time, but have no idea if it was my actions, or my actions combined with others, that is being referenced...

A few people have said it a long time ago... A few people have continued saying it the whole time (including you, too at least once I think); I personally said it a few days ago, too - with that kind of price tag, the temptation to sell is very high.

Volunteers to sell 10 UAs please? The place shouldn't matter - Ngobe, if it has a black market?


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And meanwhile, what of events in HR1185? We are all dying of anticipation here! Such T9s? Many mass?
 
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It's also worth noting that the UA is something different from the usual storylines because it lacks context that the stories like the Emperor's death. It is is a mystery in the depths of space and it's not going to be easy to unravel, but you will have plenty of opportunity to do so. And it is fair comment to have some of those changes reflected somehow and that is definitely in the plan.

Michael


Quick tangential question while you are around:
Are UA spawns affected in any way by individual Commander's attributes (i.e. Pilots Federation Ranks, Navy Ranks, Reputation, etc) or just RNG with external influences (i.e. region/system properties for where they spawn)?

Some of us seem to be having great issues ever seeing any of these UA spawns while others seem to find them comparatively easily.
Would be good to know if it was just down to RNG or if some of us were wasting our time searching.
 
A few people have said it a long time ago... A few people have continued saying it the whole time (including you, too at least once I think); I personally said it a few days ago, too - with that kind of price tag, the temptation to sell is very high.

Volunteers to sell 10 UAs please? The place shouldn't matter - Ngobe, if it has a black market?

Or Ngurii, home of the Soontill Relics antique dealers market...
 
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