Thy, I was looking at the chirps then. Wasted my time I guess lol. Oh well, it was fun anyway.
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Thy, I was looking at the chirps then. Wasted my time I guess lol. Oh well, it was fun anyway.
Nope, the chirps in the UA were entirely separate and unrelated sounds to the UA morse. You could ignore the chirps entirely and decode the morse.
Because the UA was most likely the devs testing how we science sh*t
It printed our ship in morse. I mean. I can understand why they would do it. and it would be easy to implement in to lore side of things.Ozric
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I'll give you props for an amusing read certainly.
Leaving the Ice Hockey tickets to the side, I do not think pentacle means what you think it means
Alright CMDRs.
After some thoughts and theories I figured it might be some time for analysis again.
I thought about what helped us solving the UA riddle and if there were other hints, that could have led us in this direction.
So I watched different UA videos and noted the uptime of the UA lighting during its howl.
UA on ground
- Merope 2D (32.1019, -35.9477) 16 sec
- Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1, 20.86 by 91.86 (next to Barnacle) 34 sec
UA in space
HYADES SECTOR HW-W C1-12 25 sec
Seega Port 14 sec
THFC-EST 1882 19 sec
With the solution already known, I guess the differences vary due to the scanned ship and body.
Now i was curious if there is something to be found watching the UP as well (having in mind MBs comment about different purposes of both).
Here is what I found
UP on ground
Merope 5c 12 sec
(unfortunately there is only 1 usable video, as the other ground test was more focused on the EMP and Mhyres ground video had only sound)
UP in space
Ross 47 A8 23 sec
Ross 47 A8 with UA present 23 sec
Sol -Earth 23 sec
Ross 47 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
SPF-LF 1 1 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
Results:
The ground result is vague, due to missing sources but the duration is remarkebly shorter than in space.
The space results seemed to be consistent until yesterdays episode of Educating Ed.
(maybe because they were given from devs to Ed instead of being collected as the others?)
But again, the duration is definitely longer than on the ground.
As far as I can tell the distance from Merope is not a factor influencing the light duration (meaning no homeworld finder).
So why is the lighting duration on a planet nearly half as short as in space?
Is it a rangefinder once on the ground?
Does it light up shorter as we get nearer to its receiving station?
I need more data to prove or disprove this.
If it is not, why does the duration change then?
So I am asking a favor for more visual ground recordings, with varying distances from barnacles to begin with, as they are our best reference points so far.
Or I am asking for a high five. In the face. With a chair. when I made a mistake in my research
On a side note (and less less important):
Anyone noticed that only one portion of the UP lights up during the EMP startup sequence but not the other?
(The one facing away from Merope)
And that the scooping picture of the UP is showing an UA? ( lazy devs )
Thank you for your attention CMDRs!
After some thoughts and theories I figured it might be some time for analysis again.
I thought about what helped us solving the UA riddle and if there were other hints, that could have led us in this direction.
So I watched different UA videos and noted the uptime of the UA lighting during its howl.
UA on ground
- Merope 2D (32.1019, -35.9477) 16 sec
- Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1, 20.86 by 91.86 (next to Barnacle) 34 sec
UA in space
HYADES SECTOR HW-W C1-12 25 sec
Seega Port 14 sec
THFC-EST 1882 19 sec
With the solution already known, I guess the differences vary due to the scanned ship and body.
Now i was curious if there is something to be found watching the UP as well (having in mind MBs comment about different purposes of both).
Here is what I found
UP on ground
Merope 5c 12 sec
(unfortunately there is only 1 usable video, as the other ground test was more focused on the EMP and Mhyres ground video had only sound)
UP in space
Ross 47 A8 23 sec
Ross 47 A8 with UA present 23 sec
Sol -Earth 23 sec
Ross 47 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
SPF-LF 1 1 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
Results:
The ground result is vague, due to missing sources but the duration is remarkebly shorter than in space.
The space results seemed to be consistent until yesterdays episode of Educating Ed.
(maybe because they were given from devs to Ed instead of being collected as the others?)
But again, the duration is definitely longer than on the ground.
As far as I can tell the distance from Merope is not a factor influencing the light duration (meaning no homeworld finder).
So why is the lighting duration on a planet nearly half as short as in space?
Is it a rangefinder once on the ground?
Does it light up shorter as we get nearer to its receiving station?
I need more data to prove or disprove this.
If it is not, why does the duration change then?
So I am asking a favor for more visual ground recordings, with varying distances from barnacles to begin with, as they are our best reference points so far.
Or I am asking for a high five. In the face. With a chair. when I made a mistake in my research
On a side note (and less less important):
Anyone noticed that only one portion of the UP lights up during the EMP startup sequence but not the other?
(The one facing away from Merope)
And that the scooping picture of the UP is showing an UA? ( lazy devs
)
Thank you for your attention CMDRs!
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Alright CMDRs.
After some thoughts and theories I figured it might be some time for analysis again.
I thought about what helped us solving the UA riddle and if there were other hints, that could have led us in this direction.
So I watched different UA videos and noted the uptime of the UA lighting during its howl.
http://i.imgur.com/5D3qfbw.jpg
UA on ground
- Merope 2D (32.1019, -35.9477) 16 sec
- Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1, 20.86 by 91.86 (next to Barnacle) 34 sec
UA in space
HYADES SECTOR HW-W C1-12 25 sec
Seega Port 14 sec
THFC-EST 1882 19 sec
With the solution already known, I guess the differences vary due to the scanned ship and body.
Now i was curious if there is something to be found watching the UP as well (having in mind MBs comment about different purposes of both).
Here is what I found
http://i.imgur.com/eYae6Du.jpg
UP on ground
Merope 5c 12 sec
(unfortunately there is only 1 usable video, as the other ground test was more focused on the EMP and Mhyres ground video had only sound)
UP in space
Ross 47 A8 23 sec
Ross 47 A8 with UA present 23 sec
Sol -Earth 23 sec
Ross 47 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
SPF-LF 1 1 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
Results:
The ground result is vague, due to missing sources but the duration is remarkebly shorter than in space.
The space results seemed to be consistent until yesterdays episode of Educating Ed.
(maybe because they were given from devs to Ed instead of being collected as the others?)
But again, the duration is definitely longer than on the ground.
As far as I can tell the distance from Merope is not a factor influencing the light duration (meaning no homeworld finder).
So why is the lighting duration on a planet nearly half as short as in space?
Is it a rangefinder once on the ground?
Does it light up shorter as we get nearer to its receiving station?
I need more data to prove or disprove this.
If it is not, why does the duration change then?
So I am asking a favor for more visual ground recordings, with varying distances from barnacles to begin with, as they are our best reference points so far.
Or I am asking for a high five. In the face. With a chair. when I made a mistake in my research
On a side note (and less less important):
Anyone noticed that only one portion of the UP lights up during the EMP startup sequence but not the other?
(The one facing away from Merope)
And that the scooping picture of the UP is showing an UA? ( lazy devs
Thank you for your attention CMDRs!
this is some awesome science!!
Interestingly, googling the latin phrase shows it appearing in "The Sworn Book of Honorious". From the wikipedia page for that book:
It is supposedly the product of a conference of magicians who decided to condense all their knowledge into one volume. In 93 chapters, it covers a large variety of topics, from how to save your soul from purgatory to the catching of thieves or finding of treasures. It has many instructions on how to conjure and command demons, to work other magical operations, and knowledge of what lies in Heaven among other highly sought information. Like many grimoires, it has lengthy dissertations for proper operation and seals to be used.
The book can be classified as a "Solomonic Grimoire" due to its heavy use of angelic powers and seals like those found in The Key of Solomon, and its own claim to "lay out the works of Solomon."
Sounds like this thread
I'm not saying it definitely isn't a reference to Honorious, but the quote crops up in other places too, as might be expected given its translation.
Because they are very few (5 or 6), static, and never changing. They are kind of sound markers for the various states of the UA/UP during their transmission. With static I mean that they are always the same audio files, repeating.
The purrs are very different. I'm just more open to think they have a meaning because of their structure, they have structure.
Anyway no one will stop anyone to study the chirps as well, sure
So please go on!
And that the scooping picture of the UP is showing an UA? ( lazy devs
That must be a bug. I suggest to report it.
Alright CMDRs.
After some thoughts and theories I figured it might be some time for analysis again.
I thought about what helped us solving the UA riddle and if there were other hints, that could have led us in this direction.
So I watched different UA videos and noted the uptime of the UA lighting during its howl.
http://i.imgur.com/5D3qfbw.jpg
UA on ground
- Merope 2D (32.1019, -35.9477) 16 sec
- Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1, 20.86 by 91.86 (next to Barnacle) 34 sec
UA in space
HYADES SECTOR HW-W C1-12 25 sec
Seega Port 14 sec
THFC-EST 1882 19 sec
With the solution already known, I guess the differences vary due to the scanned ship and body.
Now i was curious if there is something to be found watching the UP as well (having in mind MBs comment about different purposes of both).
Here is what I found
http://i.imgur.com/eYae6Du.jpg
UP on ground
Merope 5c 12 sec
(unfortunately there is only 1 usable video, as the other ground test was more focused on the EMP and Mhyres ground video had only sound)
UP in space
Ross 47 A8 23 sec
Ross 47 A8 with UA present 23 sec
Sol -Earth 23 sec
Ross 47 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
SPF-LF 1 1 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
Results:
The ground result is vague, due to missing sources but the duration is remarkebly shorter than in space.
The space results seemed to be consistent until yesterdays episode of Educating Ed.
(maybe because they were given from devs to Ed instead of being collected as the others?)
But again, the duration is definitely longer than on the ground.
As far as I can tell the distance from Merope is not a factor influencing the light duration (meaning no homeworld finder).
So why is the lighting duration on a planet nearly half as short as in space?
Is it a rangefinder once on the ground?
Does it light up shorter as we get nearer to its receiving station?
I need more data to prove or disprove this.
If it is not, why does the duration change then?
So I am asking a favor for more visual ground recordings, with varying distances from barnacles to begin with, as they are our best reference points so far.
Or I am asking for a high five. In the face. With a chair. when I made a mistake in my research
On a side note (and less less important):
Anyone noticed that only one portion of the UP lights up during the EMP startup sequence but not the other?
(The one facing away from Merope)
And that the scooping picture of the UP is showing an UA? ( lazy devs
Thank you for your attention CMDRs!
Bear in mind that the 'timing interval' fix in 2.1.5 for the UP audio may have also impacted the lighting duration.
That might account for the difference between the original video and the Ed video.
Doesn't account for the difference on the ground though - good research!
Alright CMDRs.
After some thoughts and theories I figured it might be some time for analysis again.
I thought about what helped us solving the UA riddle and if there were other hints, that could have led us in this direction.
So I watched different UA videos and noted the uptime of the UA lighting during its howl.
http://i.imgur.com/5D3qfbw.jpg
UA on ground
- Merope 2D (32.1019, -35.9477) 16 sec
- Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1, 20.86 by 91.86 (next to Barnacle) 34 sec
UA in space
HYADES SECTOR HW-W C1-12 25 sec
Seega Port 14 sec
THFC-EST 1882 19 sec
With the solution already known, I guess the differences vary due to the scanned ship and body.
Now i was curious if there is something to be found watching the UP as well (having in mind MBs comment about different purposes of both).
Here is what I found
http://i.imgur.com/eYae6Du.jpg
UP on ground
Merope 5c 12 sec
(unfortunately there is only 1 usable video, as the other ground test was more focused on the EMP and Mhyres ground video had only sound)
UP in space
Ross 47 A8 23 sec
Ross 47 A8 with UA present 23 sec
Sol -Earth 23 sec
Ross 47 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
SPF-LF 1 1 (Educating Ed) 20 sec
Results:
The ground result is vague, due to missing sources but the duration is remarkebly shorter than in space.
The space results seemed to be consistent until yesterdays episode of Educating Ed.
(maybe because they were given from devs to Ed instead of being collected as the others?)
But again, the duration is definitely longer than on the ground.
As far as I can tell the distance from Merope is not a factor influencing the light duration (meaning no homeworld finder).
So why is the lighting duration on a planet nearly half as short as in space?
Is it a rangefinder once on the ground?
Does it light up shorter as we get nearer to its receiving station?
I need more data to prove or disprove this.
If it is not, why does the duration change then?
So I am asking a favor for more visual ground recordings, with varying distances from barnacles to begin with, as they are our best reference points so far.
Or I am asking for a high five. In the face. With a chair. when I made a mistake in my research
On a side note (and less less important):
Anyone noticed that only one portion of the UP lights up during the EMP startup sequence but not the other?
(The one facing away from Merope)
And that the scooping picture of the UP is showing an UA? ( lazy devs
Thank you for your attention CMDRs!
Light timings always were an easy way to tell roughly what the UA was doing. At least enough to tell if it was doing something unusual.
I can never make anything out on Audacity, so it was all I could do to measure howl/light time.
Glad that the UP has different timings, proves that it is worth more recordings and the Audio phreaks can work on the differences between the recordings.
Re: OTSEAFOTSEAF
Could be a key stream. Not sure what the key would be for though!
http://crypto.interactive-maths.com/kasiski-analysis-breaking-the-code.html#encrypt
Could be a key stream. Not sure what the key would be for though!
http://crypto.interactive-maths.com/kasiski-analysis-breaking-the-code.html#encrypt
Just to remember this to anyone:
The UA markings light on for the whole duration of the morse drawing transmission. So the timing depends only on the ship that it is drawing. Nothing more.
Anyway it could be useful to note the same for the UP: perhaps the REAL transmission is sent only while the markings are light on.
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It is just EAFOTS repeating forever.
Casually, EAFOTS is the sector name of the stars around Earth and Soul Nebula, that is the translation of the sentence in Latin, found in the Galnet article
This is another mystery not related to the UP, but I suggest to those interested to go check that Nebula...
The UA markings light on for the whole duration of the morse drawing transmission. So the timing depends only on the ship that it is drawing. Nothing more.
Anyway it could be useful to note the same for the UP: perhaps the REAL transmission is sent only while the markings are light on.
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It is just EAFOTS repeating forever.
Casually, EAFOTS is the sector name of the stars around Earth and Soul Nebula, that is the translation of the sentence in Latin, found in the Galnet article
This is another mystery not related to the UP, but I suggest to those interested to go check that Nebula...
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Just to remember this to anyone:
The UA markings light on for the whole duration of the morse drawing transmission. So the timing depends only on the ship that it is drawing. Nothing more.
Anyway it could be useful to note the same for the UP: perhaps the REAL transmission is sent only while the markings are light on.
Indeed, I dare say any commander with a Probe currently will be taking careful notes and hopefully video of everything. From it just sitting in space (hopefully near a specific type of stellar body) for a while to watch and listen to any singing, then the honky-tonk and more watching and listening. Only through careful dissemination of that data will reveal anything.
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Translation of trills, chirps, purrs in Morse Code from one of Vent's latest. Blue thick lines group together the purrs that are grouped by time (a Morse code standard way of separating sequences is some dashes and dots are closer together than others, temporally). Make of this what you will, though...
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Feast of aesto
OTSEA FO TSEAF
I think it's an old way of saying feast of Easter.
More digging to follow
Ozric
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Nice thinking, I like it. Some good sciencing going on here, hopefully others can pick it up and run with it a bit more.
Wow..... That hurt my brain to look at. Is it science, or art?
Indeed.
That would be appreciated very much and would normally the way to go in the first place.
(I know I know rizal got everyone going crazy
)Another sidenote:
Remembering the fuzz during the UA times, here is a GIF of yesterdays UPs end.
In the spoiler the 24 source frames (pic heavy so don't do it on mobile)
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Could be the key to the chirp stream. That's how the military does it (dual binary streams).
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