UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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Ive noticed strange crystalline sounds in the UP recording which match sounds heard while in orbital cruise in certain areas around merope 5c. is this a coincidence?
P.S. Please throw us another bone Michael.
Yup agreed - I've just spent a little while fiddling. Nothing convincing is there from what I can see - there might be better results to be had after doing tedious combinations of high/low-pass filters and running again but this just feels like its too far off/too much randomness/too niche to be a legit route to continue investigating for now. Its just blind combination brute-forcing which isn't fun and doesn't feel like a "puzzle".
The thought occurred to me that some of the RTTY streams could be ciphertext (i.e. we then need to use the image to try and decode), but its just too much of a jump down the rabbit-hole for me to contemplate trying to "decode" what after all could just be nonsense, and for me the image does not have an obvious "decoder" purpose (i.e. right now I cant think of a way to use the image to decode - we've been told it is a key but I cant think how we can sensibly use it as a key in a crypto context)
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Cheers.
IF Frontier replace, then it's gonna be prudent to have Shadowplay on, at least for every multi-CMDR experiment I think.
Not sure if this has been asked before, but when trying to get the UP from that military convoy, could the direction of the convoy or ship carrying the UP mean anything?
If they would make the direction matter, this could help minimize the search area.
They could be coming from the UP source (since MB told us we should find them floating) or could be going to those test sites they keep saying in the NPC chatter.
If they would make the direction matter, this could help minimize the search area.
They could be coming from the UP source (since MB told us we should find them floating) or could be going to those test sites they keep saying in the NPC chatter.
thx for sending the file, went through it (with my limited abilites), there might be a CW carrierer around 3,35KHz and eventually a DSB burst at 16,8 Khz BW1,73KHz
but through that the specialists have to go.
My knowledges about Sigint stopped developing after i left the Navy 25 years ago, at that FSK, PSK and on-pulse modulation was top end
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Could you please take a look at this post and tell us what you think. It's a plausible and actually logical explanation that requires some technical skill to actually apply, which I don't have. It fits recent hints (it's a key, and there is more information in the message that we are yet to decode). It would also be analogous to what we did with the golden disk on Voyager - it provided instructions on how to decode the video that was provided. In this case, it may help decode a message in the audio.
Unfortunately, this idea has been kind of lost in the noise of this thread, and the OP used a rather annoying indirect link (maybe this is better - Wikipedia).
Look familiar?
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Exactly! It's a deep, time sapping rabbit hole that may lead to a dead rabbit
Now, if ONLY we had some GALNET guidance. There are creative ways to guide us which are completely legitimate and in-game, e.g. something like:
"Imperial Scientist today scoffed at the idea that the recently acquired signals from an Unknown Probe contain an encoded image beyond the enigmatic key that has already been uncovered.
In unrelated news Brian Lasmatic, the renowned sub-space comms engineer was found dead at his home on Mars. Local investigations suggest a botched robbery attempt but a close friend, who wished to remain anonymous, claimed that his recent work to unlock the UP signal using an ancient Slow Scan image encoding technique had attracted the 'outside agents' "
Then we'd know we were on the right track
dynamicbob
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just had an interesting encounter dropped into a anamoly 4, got the UA split into fragments and scooped up both as i would normally do as part of this test, at that point a 3 npc wing dropped into my instance 1 cobra and 2 diamondback scouts. As part of this test i dropped the cobra but with shields just about down had to high wake out
Nothing had dropped, this was the 5th UA signal in this system ( as well as 2 emissions degraded with nothing)
First time ever UA hunting that i have had npcs drop in after scooping. At the moment im gathering unknown fragments for when i can meet the pre reqs for the engineers.
if this is a first time its been reported ill continue testing, im in a taraus dark sector system within the UA bubble, F type star.
My main test apart from getting 100 fragments in this session is to drop into as many UA signals as i can and see if quantity in one session or a period of time can have any effect on things.
Since making that post I'm more included to believe the uncanny resemblance between the outer part of the "key" and a phase shift encoding constellation is entirely co-incidental.
I'd love to see creative GALNET articles to guide us (see my recent posts).
dynamicbob
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Ok maybe do the UA-UP honking test in a barnacle site on merope 5c has that been done, if it has excuse my excursion in
Oh stoppit
If it isn't phase shift, it could also be frequency-shift or amplitude-shift keying.
We need one more hint
I would not want a "hint" which is kind of obviously pointing at something by MB.
But what i would appreciate a kind of "rule out" of the many many theories, and a "gentle" push towards just a few theories, to just get a focus on few, on which we could work on mutually.
I have to admit, that i lost oversight of all and every theory by now. That this whole thing attracts more and more people is certainly good, who join the forum and this thread.
But that also brings more and more theories (and sometimes more of the same), and this does not make the whole thing easier.
So, maybe not a hint, but something along the line of getting on the right track, but still have to make the way towards a solution on our own.
dynamicbob
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a sutble hint if they really want us to find it, is it worthwhile looking at merope 5c or elsewhere. But i dont expect anything that straightforward, ok heres something rule out or in that the UP has anything to do with jaques
#a sutble hint if they really want us to find it, is it worthwhile looking at merope 5c or elsewhere. But i dont expect anything that straightforward, ok heres something rule out or in that the UP has anything to do with jaques
i want a hint, MB seems to think we all have degrees in spectral analysis or something. most of us just want to progress in the storyline.. if it gets any more complicated im probably just going to go back to exploring dead stars, or maybe waiting for NMS to fix their bugs on the pc port.
In which case I would ask whether the alternate 'easier' method of acquiring Unknown Probes, is related to the sonic image that they produce.
Well lots of posts from MB about UA/UP pointing.
And whichever way I cut it, it just leads me back to the assumption that UPs can be found somewhere in the Merope system.
Since the UA points at Merope star, and given the UP points at Merope 5c.
IF the UA/UP are broadcasting information
Then the direction implies that the UA is intended to function at long distance
And the UP is intended to function at a short distance
alternatively
IF the UA/UP are trying to lead us somewhere
Then again it implies that the UA is intended as a pointer at long distance
And the UP is intended as a pointer at a short distance
Whichever way I look at it the difference in pointing behaviour seems telling:
- Pointing at a star is the behaviour of something that needs to function at a range where planets aren't discernible
- Pointing at a local body is the behaviour of something that functions at a range where planets are discernible
And the only conclusion I can come to is that UPs are somewhere in Merope
And whichever way I cut it, it just leads me back to the assumption that UPs can be found somewhere in the Merope system.
Since the UA points at Merope star, and given the UP points at Merope 5c.
IF the UA/UP are broadcasting information
Then the direction implies that the UA is intended to function at long distance
And the UP is intended to function at a short distance
alternatively
IF the UA/UP are trying to lead us somewhere
Then again it implies that the UA is intended as a pointer at long distance
And the UP is intended as a pointer at a short distance
Whichever way I look at it the difference in pointing behaviour seems telling:
- Pointing at a star is the behaviour of something that needs to function at a range where planets aren't discernible
- Pointing at a local body is the behaviour of something that functions at a range where planets are discernible
And the only conclusion I can come to is that UPs are somewhere in Merope
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As far as I can see it's coincidental. I have a better feeling about FSK than (Q)PSK, but thanks anyway. A quick picture:
http://imgur.com/a/Yk7JV
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