Actually, I overlaid left and right parts of the image with the middle circle part, went to about where the arrow pointed and managed to run into one of those unknown DBX ships in a non-persistent POI on Merope 5c today.
UAs, Barnacles and other mysteries Thread 8 - The Canonn
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You are comparing apples and oranges, as you are comparing a marker for the whole message to a marker for a single symbol.
Additionally, you are not addressing my other points.
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So, I took pretty strong exception to the mechanics behind finding pre-shell UA convoys... it's no different for UPs. Grinding signal sites for days hoping for that one spawn is pretty inane, but people with more commitment than me will do this without issue, so I won't rant about that yet again.
But that's the issue with this. I could literally grind somewhere else for days looking for a convoy, not find a thing, and there's still no way I could tell if a UP convoy was supposed to spawn here or not. At the very least, some sort of hint in Galnet news that suggests something like that may spawn (like some of the lockdown procgen articles we get, but clearly not one just like that).
Ross 47 etc still seem to contain these convoys even out of lockdown, so I don't think that's a legit thing.
That was me, and I have the original file in GIMP format if they're wanted.
And HERE WE ARE!
I love you man! I was waiting for someone to give me a very good interpretation of the PURRS related to the 4 quadrants, and you gave me one very reasonable one indeed!
We have more than one recording from CMDR Vent, so it should be easy to confirm or deny this awesome slice of cake you served us
As you know, I cannot do it myself, or I'd done it already in these 5 minutes.
So I'm waiting for your check on the other recordings, brave CMDRs, The link is in the FP.
Anyway I like it, very much!
Basically, the drawing is a LEGENDA, with each quadrant representing body types, and the purrs the real transmission, as FD called it in the patch notes, remember, that contains the data of their system scan.
Good, very good.
I'm putting it on the FP. soon.
Indeed, the scarcity of the thing doesn't help! But how sure are we that the convoys only appear near Sirius? And is there any reason that they shouldn't be doing orbital testing in those systems? For all we know, those systems may be considered neutral and the tests there are the control group (but yeah, it does seem likely to be some sort of clue, from a gameplay point of view!).
I did have a thought where free floaters might spawn, but it assumes that the UA and UP are working together as 'signposts' and those who created them are using older hyperdrive technology. Which is a lot of assumptions! The theory is outlined in this post here if you're interested. I haven't tested it myself yet as I need to install FE2 or FFE and get the hyperdrive arrival distance data to determine the search zone! And it's probably wrong anyway
There may, or there may not, be such reasons, nor can we be sure the convoys don't appear elsewhere. But if we are going to make any progress in finding free UPs it does make sense to concentrate on where we know they have already been found in convoys & the pertinent circumstances, and then try to think around & outside those circumstances
That's actually why I went into the ravine in the first place. I saw someone mention that the line vaguely corresponds to that ravines location so I went looking for barnacles there. After searching for maybe an hour or so I decided I'd get some height advantage and started looking for them very slowly. Following the ravine walls I came to a wide open clearing with a crater at one end. That's when I saw the first symbol. At first I though it was just a glitch in the texture. I drove around it for a bit in my SRV then decided to see if from above. Then I saw that the symbol had lines extending from it in two directions, one into the crater then disappears, then another that went in a different direction further down a different branch of the ravine. When I followed that line more images started appearing periodically. That's when I started changing the color and contrast to try to make more sense of them.
One was. Links to media in his sig.
Wondering now if "NGC 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29" has :
1 Main Start
3 Ringed Worlds
3 World with Atomsphere
2 Binary worlds
I like the thinking and I can agree this seems like a good theory.
It does make me think what are we missing in Merope if anything, it's information we know already.
I'm starting to feel the drawing is for whoever sent the probe. Meaning now we need them to respond.
Brilliant.
This is brilliant thinking. Very testable.
A system with only a star would go a long ways to prove this easily!
This is brilliant thinking. Very testable.
A system with only a star would go a long ways to prove this easily!
So . . . It was a decoder ring. ROFL
I honor your interpretation. Nevertheless, there is a question left:
Why did you interpret 110 as a main star and 101 as an asteroid belt? Why not the other way around?
Both symbols are not present in the image provided by the UP spectrogramm.
Also I would think that every system has a single main star, don't they?
Fantastic work. Hope we can verify this soon with other recordings.
I was soo close.....
Some bits sound a bit tenuous (e.g. the 'radius' indicting a binary pair; the two spikes representing barnacles.. You might be right, but it's an odd representation). So... now what? If this is correct, what are we using this key to decode? Do we have another data-stream to compare against? Or <conspiracy music> are we suddenly going to receive more signals now that someone may have decoded the key.
Really nice approach, I like it and am curious to see if it fits other systems. Great find commander.
Once concern though... why does it whale close to planets?
I am chewing on this for since we became proof of the fact that it only whales close to planets. I spend the best part of the day trying to get hands on a probe myself so that I could do more testing close to planets.
My line of thinking: It only Whales close to planets. The image shows a sphere. This most likely represents the planet then.
Only when the feds startet to occupy worlds with barnacles, the convoys started to show up.
What if the Probe finds Barnacles?
That would explain the feds hovering over different Barnacle worlds as well as the coms chatter about the orbital tests.
I am convinced that the message is hidden in the song when you release it close to planets.
I am also sure, that this will exclude free floater tests if they do not appear close to Barnacle worlds. Since it would make little sense to listen to them if they are not close to a planet.
I am wondering if all Barnacle worlds are tidally locked, unfortunately this information is not on the Barnacle sheet. A tidally locked planet would make it way simpler to encode a surface coordinate in a way that it is easily to be found using the image in the message.
In my opinion the 4 quadrants of the sphere include all the information one needs to point to a specific spot on the surface. I am convinced that the message is going to describe the angles and distances needed to pin point a location.
I will keep working on this but as everyone else I rely on recordings of the UP song. I am really grateful for all the information that we already got from the dedicated commanders out there risking their probes by doing tests and posting the results here.
It would be great if we continue to post these recordings along with the System Name, Planet name if recorded in proximity, so that we can develop our theories further.
Thanks again for all the great work and I am sure we are getting very close to a solution now.
Fly safe commanders
Any assumption might be false, it's how confident you are it isn't that counts.
And HERE WE ARE!
I love you man! I was waiting for someone to give me a very good interpretation of the PURRS related to the 4 quadrants, and you gave me one very reasonable one indeed!
We have more than one recording from CMDR Vent, so it should be easy to confirm or deny this awesome slice of cake you served us
As you know, I cannot do it myself, or I'd done it already in these 5 minutes.
So I'm waiting for your check on the other recordings, brave CMDRs, The link is in the FP.
Anyway I like it, very much!
Basically, the drawing is a LEGENDA, with each quadrant representing body types, and the purrs the real transmission, as FD called it in the patch notes, remember, that contains the data of their system scan.
Good, very good.
I'm putting it on the FP. soon.
I'll have a listen to the other recordings, but the Merope one was fairly hard to decode as ambient music was still on. Vent promised a non-musiced recording, but lost his probe soon after due to a bug. I'll have a look regardless. Big thanks to you for all the work you've done keeping everything organized; thanks to your work I was able to find and compare everything I needed and rule out earlier theories. Some of the credit should definitely go to you, assuming I'm right of course.
Yep, it was recorded in deep space surround Merope, where the wails don't occur. My theory is that the wails occur in proximity with worlds containing barnacles... inspiration taken from Star Trek IV. I need to find another UP to test that portion though. The probe points to M5C because it's the key to understanding all of the UP; the system has all the examples of output for the UP's purrs, and it points to M5C so we can see it wails when near a barnacle world.
Sure, direct translations here:
110 - Main stars
010 - Atmospheric worlds (gas giants included, by definition)
011 - Planets (defined as orbiting the main stars, or orbiting a barycenter that orbits the main stars)
001 - Binary configurations (or more likely any case of multiple bodies orbiting a barycenter)
101 - Asteroids
100 - Barnacle worlds (initially I thought high-metal worlds, but I'll explain my decision on those later)
The transcription I got from the Probe was 110 010 010 011 010 011 011 001 011 010 101 001 100 100 110 011 001 010 011 010 010 if you need it. Since the patch notes defined how long the probe's transmission lasted, I was able to extrapolate how long to listen.
yeah i like it too. not sure what we can do with it, but I like it.
now to prove by predicting an unknown system's make-up from just a recording of the purrs.
Which means more UPs
Edit: and the UAs have the same/similar patterns: do they do it too?
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One was. Links to media in his sig.
Wondering now if "NGC 2546 Sector CR-U D3-29" has :
1 Main Start
3 Ringed Worlds
3 World with Atomsphere
2 Binary worlds
Not Quite.
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