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UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn
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Aliens didn't have Olympic games hosted by a certain German radical party either. But we did, and we broadcasted it to space, and before that, we sent lots of wireless signals to space in morse code.
It wouldn't surprise me if the morse code of the UAs, instead of transmitting an encrypted diagram of the player's ship, were instead "This is Titanic. CQD. Engine room flooded."
That message would be reaching systems at 1400Ly from Sol in the year 3302, which is quite close to Barnards Loop.
Edit: apparently the forum doesn't like the name of that German party and blanked it out. BTW, that was a reference to the movie Contact.
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Indeed. However, I've just had a thought about the constant damage to the ship - (and a second one whilst starting to write it up):
1. The UA normally receives a constant feed of some sort beamed to it (possibly through hyperspace). Once we have scooped it, we break that link and it starts taking damage itself as a result.
2. It's just generally clanging around in your cargo bay.
I'm suspecting it's 2, but it would be nice if it was the first one.
I was in the Skaudai area exploring nebulae, but decided to return to check out certain nebula for barnacles on my list. One of Michael's comments suggested that while there are barnacles in other nebulae, they aren't necessarily in every single nebula.
So um... After some digging here and there I came up with a certain list of nebula to check out.
Also guys, I know some of us have checked dark regions, but a lot of us have simply ignored them. Dark regions happen to be nebulae as well, also called "dark nebulae". So even though they are called "dark regions" they are actually a form of nebulae!
I'm still about 10k LY away from returning to the bubble, so here is the list of Nebulae that I intend to check. Some of these nebulae are very small, and you will only find them by searching in navigation.
Retina Nebula
NGC 5882
Lupus Dark Region
NGC 1535
Owl Nebula (NGC 3587)
These are interestingly placed around the bubble.
So um... After some digging here and there I came up with a certain list of nebula to check out.
Also guys, I know some of us have checked dark regions, but a lot of us have simply ignored them. Dark regions happen to be nebulae as well, also called "dark nebulae". So even though they are called "dark regions" they are actually a form of nebulae!
I'm still about 10k LY away from returning to the bubble, so here is the list of Nebulae that I intend to check. Some of these nebulae are very small, and you will only find them by searching in navigation.
Retina Nebula
NGC 5882
Lupus Dark Region
NGC 1535
Owl Nebula (NGC 3587)
These are interestingly placed around the bubble.
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Well, not to be too picky, but ground based Morse from ancient earth probably wouldn't be detectable much beyond a couple of LY at the very most - most of those radio waves use reflection off the atmosphere (or one of the other 'spheres around earth) to propagate, and any signal leakage would be too diffuse to be detectable from background radiation beyond even 2-4ly away.
Focussed high power radio transmissions are another matter - and there have been a few of these - not sure how many, if any, were directed towards either the Pleiades or Orion or Barnard's nebulae - although that link lists one targeted at HD 245409, which is in the Orion constellation, and due to arrive on the neighbourhood around 2040. That's only 37LY away though!
(On a separate note, I wonder if they sent these messages to where the stars appeared to be when they sent them, or where they will actually be when the messages are due to arrive! If your target is 37ly away, then you have 74 years of interstellar drift due to rotation around the galaxy centre to account for!)
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Possibly, or 3) I said a couple of pages back - could be that our cargo holds are pressurised and they don't like 'air'. Or pressure, even. The same would then be true with stations.
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It's not lupus. It's never lupus.
wouldn't they then continue to deteriorate on a planet surface and conversely stop deteriorating when jettisoned back into space?
Was that a reference to the TV show House?
If you read the FP, post #3, you'll find how they behave differently depending on how and where they are jettisoned.
Nop, as i said here : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049&p=3439784&viewfull=1#post3439784
(Look at the screens, i had 3 000 000 reward, and while the cmdr in the op didn't get paid, i did )
Don't forget that these are planets with no atmosphere, so still zero pressure. As for in space, it is likely just to match regular cargo containers in preventing large amounts of cargo to remain in an instance. Plus, they ought to be able to repair themselves from the matter on the planet too.
You can record 'what-u-hear' with audacity - even if it doesn't work straight away, there are notes on how to get it to work just by switching the audio devices in its UI - works really well
Isn't "What-u-hear" a Creative/Soundblaster mixer option though? It's certainly not on my W7 (Audacity only seems to have Microsoft Sound Mapper, Microphone In: Phoebus or Aux In: Phoebus - Asus strikes again
) and I can't remember if I saw it on my old Vista setup (which had an Audigy fitted).I really miss the old XP sound mixer layout :'(
I've got an analogue audio from HDMI spliiter now so at least I have Elite in full surround and could presumably feed one of the outputs to a mic socket (may also allow to get rid of ambient sounds around the morse site?)
Building on simulacrae's excellent diagram I've derived the relative distance data for the spikes.
If the layout of the spikes is important then the relative distance is one of the easiest things to measure (spike height not accounted for - it wouldn't make a huge difference anyway).
O is the barnacle and each letter is a spike in increasing distance order. The distance to the nearest spike is 1 unit.
So if you have a theory about what origin point the barnacle represents and what points the spike represents then other spikes indicate a relative distance from the origin where you should find something.
Working diagram below:
If the layout of the spikes is important then the relative distance is one of the easiest things to measure (spike height not accounted for - it wouldn't make a huge difference anyway).
O is the barnacle and each letter is a spike in increasing distance order. The distance to the nearest spike is 1 unit.
| O>A | 1 |
| O>B | 1.17 |
| O>C | 1.19 |
| O>D | 1.76 |
| O>E | 2.12 |
| O>F | 2.14 |
| O>G | 2.26 |
| O>H | 2.51 |
| O>I | 3.27 |
| O>J | 3.55 |
| O>K | 4.16 |
| O>L | 4.20 |
| O>M | 4.23 |
| O>N | 4.49 |
| O>P | 4.55 |
| O>Q | 4.79 |
| O>R | 5.39 |
So if you have a theory about what origin point the barnacle represents and what points the spike represents then other spikes indicate a relative distance from the origin where you should find something.
Working diagram below:
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The entire galaxy? The center might refer to a certain feature we know well, as well.
Different people have different theories - this data doesn't assume what the barnacle or the spike represents but does give you one way to test a theory.
For example, my current theory is that the spikes represent nearby systems with more barnacles in them.
I've taken Maia as the barnacle (centre of the nebula) and assumed Merope is spike A.
This provides a reasonable distance match with Pleione as spike C and P-Sec JC-U B3-2 as spike R.
If my theory is true that means there must be barnacles on a system between Merope and Pleione, in terms of distance from Maia.
There is only one system that fits the criteria: P-Sec blah D65 or something - it has 2 landable planets that I've been searching - nothing so far.
I'm going by distance alone at the moment, trying to match orientation using the Galaxy map is too hard, plus space is 3D whereas the barnacle layout is 2D.
Crappy theory but I can at least test it.
The theory that I really believe is that FD only made one barnacle/spike model and it just gets reused but there's no tin foil in that!!
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If the galaxy is your theory then the barnacle is probably Sag A* and one of the spikes is the Pleiades nebula, and the actual layout matters because the galaxy is reasonably flat.
1 data point to work with - 17 possible orientations of the layout - which one lands a nebula on every spike?
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Wow, that looks strikingly like this:
*edit* maybe it's a pulsar map and not a map to nebulas.
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I like this ! It is well worth investigating further. o7
I had the same thought, and it would be super cool, but I doubt it for two reasons: first, I don't see any unambiguous way for each spike to encode a number in addition to its distance from the center, and that number (shown on your image in binary with the dashes and bars) is a necessary ingredient of a pulsar map (to indicate which pulsar you're referring to, by identifying its period). Second, even if we had both distances and identifying numbers for pulsars, putting that together to derive the correct position would be *hard* mathematical work, definitely requiring external tools and a fair bit of knowledge and expertise, and that has never been FD's style. They want kids on XBoxes to (in theory) have a shot at solving their puzzles.
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