UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

[rote1]

No you understand me then. But I still shouldn't have to use these things. It should be something implemented in game. I don't even think you guys should be forced to use 3rd parties.

Oh well, just take it at face value for now and enjoy the 99.9% of the game you don't need 3rd party tools for.

Personally, this has served me well as a template in these situations:
[video=youtube;TKOrr4XRbg8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKOrr4XRbg8[/video]

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and its remarks like these I usually just ignore. People trying to belittle me.

I liked it because it has parts of a douglas adams quote in it, don't think it was meant to belittle tbh

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that would be awesome and certainly solve the problem of needing a whole battle group to get them

not to mention funny as heck

 

[Turd Ferguson]

going outside "immersion" for a moment, that signal WAS made by humans...approximating what they think aliens would do.

 

[ilo]

That's an extremely poor comparison. Eddb does not disclose anything someone in game cannot locate or determine in game by merely traveling to the destination.

I'd really want to see you calculating A-B-A or A-B-C max profit trading routes without 'external tools', not even excel

Enough for me about this, really, I'm happy to have another open vs solo, xbox vs pc, 'limited in game' vs 'whatever you can use' thread somewhere else, but will not continue here.

 

[Tigorath]

Spent a couple of hours checking the moon in Merope only to realise I was on the wrong damned one. What a pancake. Anyhoo, landed on Merope 5c ( finally ) and finding a lot of data nodes. Also there seems to be two convoys orbitting the planet. Are they new?

 

[iFred]

Back in audio business
...trying to find a UP for recording in high quality and with debug cam

You are my man löl

 

[S0fa C0mmand0]

Yea sorry guys. Didn't mean to direct this at you lot. You guys are doing stellar work. Hope the devs see my disgust.

 

[TomR]

I was able to get more detail using some filters. There are what looks to be symbols in the background.

http://i.imgur.com/ipUeuEw.png

 

[Patau82]

Spent a couple of hours checking the moon in Merope only to realise I was on the wrong damned one. What a pancake. Anyhoo, landed on Merope 5c ( finally ) and finding a lot of data nodes. Also there seems to be two convoys orbitting the planet. Are they new?

yep been there a couple of days, feds convoy loaded up with MA's

 

[marx]

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Braben Merope wgah'nagl fhtagn!

On a more serious note, allow me to present my theory on the image's interpretation.
First, I'll assume that there is a planet shown there, based on the spherical grid pattern and the fact that the UP orients itself towards Merope 5 c.

Let's consider the moon itself first. It orbits Merope 5, which is a ringed dwarf star. The moon is also tidally locked to the star, and it has an axial tilt of -15.78 degrees.
With these in mind, my interpretation of the symbols: the top left symbol is the ringed dwarf star. The quarter-circle above the planet is its light, reflected from the surface.
On the opposite side, the line going from the center to the surface would be the planet's axis: note that it's not going to the opposite side because the image is clearly divided into four quadrants, with each quadrant having distinct kinds of symbols. I also don't think this would be a surface marker; the third (bottom left) quadrant's two lines look more like markers.
The second quadrant's (top right) image reminds me of something transmitting waves down to the surface: the UP maybe? I wonder if this is meant as a reference, which it could be if the UP's message actually changes depending on where it is. If it did, then that might be able to help us narrow down the locations of the two markers in the third quadrant: right now, they'd still be rather large (and wide) lines to search over.

The two symmetric symbols below the globe, I can only guess about. Marking symmetry maybe? Or the end of the message? Could be "ignore everything before and after these signs".

Either way, I think the most important thing to do now would be to test and record the probe's message at various points in high orbit of the moon, and see if it ever changes. If it doesn't, then there are two large areas of the planet to survey - which is still a lot better than the whole surface.

Also, somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but looking at the barnacle list, doesn't Merope 5 c have three barnacles discovered?

 

[DustyArne]

I was able to get more detail using some filters. There are what looks to be symbols in the background.

http://i.imgur.com/ipUeuEw.png

Looks like there is a grid on the background. Might as well have coordinates?

We really DO need a static free sound file..

 

[rizal72]

it's all meant to be a collaborative effort though - they set these things up so it'd be nigh on miraculous for one person to manage to suss it all.

rizal found the clue and posted the video, it was someone else entirely that did the analysis like that off their own bat

the steps decoding the UA's wireframes were even more tortured - it's really weird after most games centering everything on just you, but it's kinda amazing and great to watch once you accept it. you and I are just tiny individual pilots - one or two in hundreds of thousands with a million little puzzles to solve. You'll nail one too

TBH that happened only because I was busy uploading videos and writing on the forum about the new discovery: my next step planned was to do a spectrographic analysis of the sound, as I always did with the UA sound, to decode morse
Anyway you are right: this is and must be a community effort.

For people asking for new recordings, as already said, the UP will be in CMDR Mhyre hand's only this next evening BST. Then he will be able to do his tests.
REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE UP RIGHT NOW.
And unfortunately (or should I say fortunately?), I am at work now, you now

A good thing to do in the meantime could be liberating other UPs, right?

 

[Turd Ferguson]

how about 4 UPs (or UAs) positioned around the planet as described in the picture, using the 2 barnicles as reference marks (as the picture suggests) and honking them in the order specified?

I know....we only have 1 now.

 

[MrDobilina]

Has anyone scanned a UP with a cargo/kill scanner? just incase...
also has anyone dumped one at merope and scanned it there to see if there is any difference?

Finally, has anyone scanned one with multiple ships nearby, do they all turn the same way or is it a random push off from the probe? If you scan it multiple times does it keep pushing you or just the once?

 

[Patau82]

I was able to get more detail using some filters. There are what looks to be symbols in the background.

http://i.imgur.com/ipUeuEw.png

nice work
bottom left could be a system map similar to voyager one

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Finally, has anyone scanned one with multiple ships nearby, do they all turn the same way or is it a random push off from the probe? If you scan it multiple times does it keep pushing you or just the once?

affects all ships targeting it direction turn appears to be random. keeps doing it every time.

 

[S0fa C0mmand0]

@lokesh. I don't play cod. I have however logged 4 weeks 4 days 16 hours game time on elite dangerous xbox one. If that shows my commitment to the game. Direct you not funny jokes elsewhere please

 

[TheOneWithNoLife]

First of all I want to say this:

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZLaPCcE8n8

Second of all Yes it really looks like a map of merope 5c where the symbol to the top left is the merope star and the one to the right is the merope 5 star. The line above the planet on the left symbolizing the bright part of the planet (that is if it is tidally locked to merope star). Also the radius might be just a way of saying: " Hey I am intelligent and i know pi. But Also it looks like the "merope 5" is sending a signal to the planet, and it is broadcasting it to merope star (by merope 5 and merope star i mean the top right and top left symbols. They could be something else and not those stars.)
Good job on the find!

 

[Cmdr Delmonte[VR]]

 

[Whiskey1nTheJar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/4thviv/unknown_probe_sound_decoded/

I haven't seen this brought up at all and wanted to bring it up here.

If you overlay the "radar" part on our galaxy:Central vertical line is lined up with our colonised bubble. The single diagonal point toward the magellanic galaxy, beleived to be the targoid origin.
The 2 outside diagonal point to two other galaxies.
The large diagonal being inside the circle mean (comming IN)? As for the other symbols, I have no clue.
I would also like to separate this image in two layers. Red and Blue. Because I see other symbols in blue. Maybe this is ment to be realined for a 3D image?
EDIT: If you overlay this with the radar centered on Sol, the single diagonal point to the Barnard's Loop.
Then, the "target" on the left side top of "radar" is where Jaque's Station is? The semi circle line outside of "Radar" mean movement toward "Target".

 

[Edd Jordan]

I know this will get lost in all the excitement but. i wounder can we liberate the UPs from convoys by hitting the ship that carries the up with the ADS? it shuts the ship down yes. it might make getting them easier. also someone on here said about being able to push ships in convoys off course. i can confirm this works have tried it alot you have to push for a long time but you can get a t9 or anaconda a very long way from the rest of the ship's. makes stealing cargo a lot easier. well that's my thoughts

ps

i think we should only be looking at the middle bit of the spectrum analyzer i think the rest of it is ghostin.