UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

[Galor Cracken]

but thinking about what I said earier that the message could indicate Merope 2A instead of 5C

it's hard to keep up with this threat, but I specualted that the top right quadrant is the symbol for the second planet and the top left could indicate the first moon since it could indicate an orbit. and the lower half indicates longitude and latitude. What if this message is a warning. If I recall correct there is a Faragut battlecruiser hovering a few km over the surface of Merope 2A. The message could mean that they detected the big ugly hunk of metal and they want it removed or else they disable the electronics as they did with the asp. In space thats annoying but that close to the surface it would most likely be the end of the capship.

 

[ilo]

Any symbolic representation of a binary code has 2 parts one represen ting 0 and another prepresenting the value 1. The symbol itself does not matter but the use of it is predeterment. For example

zero = x
one = A

then the values 0 - 7 in binary would look like

0 = xxx
1 = xxA
2 = xAx
3 = xAA
4 = Axx
5 = AxA
6 = AAx
7 = AAA

same goes for zeros are - and one is |

0 = ---
1 = --|
2 = -|-
3 = -||
4 = |--
5 = |-|
6 = ||-
7 = |||

as you can see the pattern is always the same but the symbols can be choosen at random. Therefor using --- as the value one is not possible. It would render the system unreadable.

using ordinals might help, I'm talking about language and communication, not maths:

XXX = First
XXA = second
XAX = third
... and so on

now we have a message, read the instructions:
second: do something..
third: do something else..
fourth: .. and so on..

inefficient and unreadable, just as you described. this is why I think the theory of numbers in pseudo Morse is not correct.

 

[slartybartfast]

using ordinals might help, I'm talking about language and communication, not maths:

XXX = First
XXA = second
XAX = third
... and so on

now we have a message, read the instructions:
second: do something..
third: do something else..
fourth: .. and so on..

inefficient and unreadable, just as you described. this is why I think the theory of numbers in pseudo Morse is not correct.

That and FD have used that a bit already i think they would use something else.

 

[NorMonsta]

...and on that thought (my previous), before you go bustin out your blunderbusses and blasting bogiemonsters, what right have you over this space over some Chitinous Charlie?

 

[Blagsc]

Hmmm so i just realised...The scanner can make "music notes" and when the probe was scanned it replied aka "Singa" after all that we got Singa and moon-a from kerrash......
So maybe taking a UP to the moon? that or 5c is a "moon" and we're missing something.....i mean someone even pointed out this all happened on moon day or something so maybe?

 

[nosscar]

without checking all the post's, but the UP uses emp when honked to disable a ship, (or similar) has anybody tried using our own emp back at one. (the one we use for missile evasion)

 

[NorMonsta]

Soneone's been overmasticating their Fujin Tea

 

[CookieJarviz]

without checking all the post's, but the UP uses emp when honked to disable a ship, (or similar) has anybody tried using our own emp back at one. (the one we use for missile evasion)

Thats actually the first original question that has been asked in awhile. + Rep

 

[LordZoltan]

Thats actually the first original question that has been asked in awhile. + Rep

would be if it hadn't been asked yesterday

 

[Armankessilon]

Or try to use it right after d-scan.

 

[nosscar]

would be if it hadn't been asked yesterday

Ok, sorry, like i said too many posts to check every one.
But question still remains, has it been tried yet, and if yes, any result, or just a dead end.

edit: it could even cause one to drop out of a Python.

 

[Yaffle]

Folks

A quick reminder to NOT delve into the game files and post them here, this is about research into observations, not hacking the client.

I've removed a few links to game files, please report any that remain.

Thanks

 

[nosscar]

Folks

A quick reminder to NOT delve into the game files and post them here, this is about research into observations, not hacking the client.

I've removed a few links to game files, please report any that remain.

Thanks

i agree, thats cheating, a bit like reading the last page of a story first.

 

[Squire]

FWIW, this is what the symbols would mean if we assume it's a binary style code: (if someone has already done all this feel free to shout at me... too much thread to trawl through! )

top left: 2
top right: 3
bottom right: 1
bottom left: 4

so assuming the tick indicates the starting point... 1423 (if we go clockwise), or 1324 (if we go counter-clockwise)

Something else just occurred ot me: maybe it's backwards! (do they necessarily count left-to-right?), so if it's the other way round, we get:

top left: 2
top right: 6
bottom right: 4
bottom left: 1

I dunno... I'm just speculating here.

But those marks around the "planet"... I wonder if that's somehow indicative of a space flight cycle, or maybe even a technology evolution cycle... the line through the planet looks like it indicates a starting point, the two curved lines is planetary flight, the long line may be close orbit (or maybe those two are the other way round if we follow the "numbers") and the two leading away from the planet equals space flight.

Or maybe it indicates positions of stars and satellites.

And those symbols in the background, are they part of it or is that just noise? Again, I'm just speculating.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

If it is the missing, surely they would be father outside the bubble, Merope is pretty easy to reach for anyone to be honest....

Also, not sure if this has been tried.

But, Has anyone got a UP and put it on the planet surface at 0,0 to see if it rotates and points in a certain direction?

Since they all point towards Merope 5c, maybe once on the surface, they point to a specific spot on the surface?

No, generation ships started to depart earth we are told in 24th Century & it is now 34th Century
1000 years so the maximum they could have travelled is less than 1000LY.
This is the problem - where are they? We should have found some by now, unless they joined with an alien spacefaring race with advanced FTL drives

 

[slartybartfast]

Folks

A quick reminder to NOT delve into the game files and post them here, this is about research into observations, not hacking the client.

I've removed a few links to game files, please report any that remain.

Thanks

And remember every time this happens a kitten dies

 

[Sunleader]

I think we are too Focused on the Unknown Probe.



Currently we know that Something Unknown is Attacking Ships.
These Ships are Downed usually so we Find Wreckages and know that they somehow Take them Down very Fast.


But I think we are too Focused on how it happens.

Instead we should Focus more on Why Ships are Attacked.
What is causing Enemies to Take down Ships.
Whats the Requirement for Being Attacked.


Where do Ships get Attacked.
What did Ships do when they got Attacked.
What Ships got Attacked.
To whom belong the Attacked Ships.
What did Ships carry when they were Attacked.


I am Fairly sure there is a Trigger for these Attacks.
And we should work towards finding it. Then maybe this will also allow us to make more Sense of the Attacks and Find out whats behind them

 

[NorMonsta]

And remember every time this happens a kitten dies

[sour]

 

[CookieJarviz]

i agree, thats cheating, a bit like reading the last page of a story first.

Were also cheating by using outside tools to figure out what everything means. So Tomato Tomato.

 

[Cynaqq]

No, generation ships started to depart earth we are told in 24th Century & it is now 34th Century
1000 years so the maximum they could have travelled is less than 1000LY.
This is the problem - where are they? We should have found some by now, unless they joined with an alien spacefaring race with advanced FTL drives

That or they developed their own FTL technology on route, which allowed them to travel much faster than they started with. We don't know if they had such scientific or manufacturing capabilities on their ships but chances are, they did. After all, the primary purpose of a generation ship is to act as a base of operations/factory once it settles down on a planet to colonize.

That being said, last night I had a very strangely convincing dream. I've been thinking about the UP message a lot lately and just before I fell asleep, I thought the image immediately to the bottom left of the main image (the thing with a square block under a four segment C) looked a lot like a virus.

Then in my dream, the aliens we are interacting with were a kind of sentient virus, living in colonies and acting as a hive-mind. The UA and UP were their organically grown space ships, in which their colonies lived. The barnacles were their mining stations or farms providing them with sustenance, preferably in the form of meta-alloys.