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Momentum vice-chair 'suspended by Labour' amid anti-Semitism row and the list goes on

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37526320

Walthamstow Labour activist suspended from party over anti-Semitic remarks receives death threat

http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/15063412.Labour_activist_suspended_from_party_over_anti_Semitic_remarks_receives_death_threat/

Any way as i said Labour is the jew hating party of the UK and this is why Tories know they can't lose the election, when the tories start to inform everyone what they get up to, though the country already knows , THEY GOT NO CHANCE. But keep drumming it and it stays for life .:)
 
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verminstar

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Who needs news feeds when ye have off topic to follow?

This will be our fourth election in a single 12 month time frame...to describe what Im feeling right now as apathetic simply wouldnt be accurate. Tis good to see the politicians trying to wriggle out of their own mess though, like a herd of rabbits caught in the headlights, they dont know which way to run and just brain freeze...funny to watch.

Nothing ever changes so why bother? Or maybe ye just have a morbid curiosity to justify why ye follow events at all like Im feeling right now...more curious amusement while waiting fer the punchline of a joke yer not a part of.

Its the same disinterest I felt when watching the whole Trump circus the yanks had, with enough entertainment value to find interesting enough to follow. Is it bad to feel like that? Is that how yanks see us now? Ah the irony...

This will be our fourth and they are becoming very efficient at it now and here at least, there will still be no agreement so why bother?
 
'You don't get suspended for doing nothing'.

Are you sure about that?

Yes when the facts were on facebook for all to see, these were not allegations they were fact, hence she was not suspended for nothing, as i said.

It does help to read my posts then my remark would of made sense, but as you just jumped in at the end of conversation, I then have to waste time to explain it to you.
 
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Avago Earo

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Who needs news feeds when ye have off topic to follow?

This will be our fourth election in a single 12 month time frame...to describe what Im feeling right now as apathetic simply wouldnt be accurate. Tis good to see the politicians trying to wriggle out of their own mess though, like a herd of rabbits caught in the headlights, they dont know which way to run and just brain freeze...funny to watch.

Nothing ever changes so why bother? Or maybe ye just have a morbid curiosity to justify why ye follow events at all like Im feeling right now...more curious amusement while waiting fer the punchline of a joke yer not a part of.

Its the same disinterest I felt when watching the whole Trump circus the yanks had, with enough entertainment value to find interesting enough to follow. Is it bad to feel like that? Is that how yanks see us now? Ah the irony...

This will be our fourth and they are becoming very efficient at it now and here at least, there will still be no agreement so why bother?

Verminster. Do you think you're the only one who's thinking about it? If so, why do you think you're the only one that thinks? It's curious as to why you think you can think on other's behalf. Or am I misreading you? I think for myself. I don't feel I have to 'shake hands' by nodding towards apathy by being offended on other peoples' behalf. Where do you come from, regarding self expression (No, don't bring Hitler into this, that's a cheap cop out)? Are you part of that new shut them down movement. PS If yopu must know, I'm Socialist (the real thing. Not the T Shirt)
 
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The country, England, is fast turning into a one party state and even in Scotland, Labour MPs are not wanted as in N.ireland, only in Wales do they dominate and that may be their last stand for labour. It's like watching the slow sinking of an outdated ship
 
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Bla Bla Bla. TM's called an election. Nick Glegg agreed to a coalition if there was a fixed term. The Tories (as usual) overruled it. N ick Clegg also lied about student fees.

Anyway, there are other people. I thionk this needs to be said. The question was 'Do you want the UK to be a member of the european union? It was not: Are you a white supremasist?

As someone who fought against the BNP and the NF, I could be a wimp and say 'Oh, I'm offended. Shut up or I'll get sopmeone to shut you up' But cowardice is disgusting..

Where I live... My doors are open. Just saying if you want to really talk.

You seem too concerned to be offended for someone else. Sort your own crap out first, yeah?

You got the wrong order there mate.

The "White Supremacists" are heavily Supporting Brexit and were Empowered by it.
Pretty much every Racist Voted for Brexit.
Not everyone who Voted for Brexit is a Racist.

What People complain is that the Racists gained alot of Momentum thanks to Brexit. And that the Brexiteers (including the current Government) is heavily Catering to these Racist movements by turning onto Immigrants etc.
Dont turn that order on the head pls.
Albeit at least in this Forum. Not a few of the Pro Brexit People have rather radical and racist Views of the World. Including the idea that any Refugees should be stopped from coming ashore even if it means drowning them etc.
But well. Given your other Posts you are already well aware that you got some of these types on the Pro Brexit side.
And yeah I realize that to those who actually just want out of the EU for other reasons whatever they may be. These people are an hindrance as well.
But the Fact that it was also their Votes which bought Brexit about is a Fact that cannot be denied.



To begin with tough. I assumed we were over this by now.
I am still asking what reason people could have for leaving the EU.
On a Economic level it makes no sense. (No matter how this turns out the UKs economy will come out heavily weakened)
On a Political level it makes even less sense. (The UK loses massive Political Influence with that move. Its Soft Power is vanishing rapidly and relations to the UKs closest neighbors is in ruins)
On a Legal level it makes very little sense. (while alot of the stuff the Brexiteers claimed here is rubbish. It is indeed true that the EU is influencing the Laws in the UK. Now these being regarded positive or negative is a different story. I am generally in favor of Worker Protection Laws, Anti Dumping Laws and High Health and Consumer Protection Laws. But its also a fact that these do inhibit the market as they take power away from big Companies which otherwise would be able to make much more Money)


Thing is.
So far the Argument I heard for Pro Brexit are pretty much non existent.

The New Commonwealth being the new Biggest Market soon is not even worth being called a Pipe Dream. Not only did India and Australia deny that right away as the UK does not want to have Migration Treaties. But even if it was to come around it would still be smaller than the EU or the USA.

The Immigration going out of hand and EU people leeching from UKs Social Welfare has been proven Wrong repeatedly. As in fact the Immigrants from the EU are the biggest Net Supporter of the British Social Welfare System. (to be precise in many Years they are the only ones not Leeching from it)
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In General the Idea that the UK could possibly go out of this with a Stronger Economy is Ridiculous.
Cutting off your Arm does make you more dexterous.



I am always ready to talk about any Pro Brexit Arguments of course.
 

Avago Earo

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You got the wrong order there mate.

The "White Supremacists" are heavily Supporting Brexit and were Empowered by it.
Pretty much every Racist Voted for Brexit.
Not everyone who Voted for Brexit is a Racist.

What People complain is that the Racists gained alot of Momentum thanks to Brexit. And that the Brexiteers (including the current Government) is heavily Catering to these Racist movements by turning onto Immigrants etc.
Dont turn that order on the head pls.
Albeit at least in this Forum. Not a few of the Pro Brexit People have rather radical and racist Views of the World. Including the idea that any Refugees should be stopped from coming ashore even if it means drowning them etc.
But well. Given your other Posts you are already well aware that you got some of these types on the Pro Brexit side.
And yeah I realize that to those who actually just want out of the EU for other reasons whatever they may be. These people are an hindrance as well.
But the Fact that it was also their Votes which bought Brexit about is a Fact that cannot be denied.



To begin with tough. I assumed we were over this by now.
I am still asking what reason people could have for leaving the EU.
On a Economic level it makes no sense. (No matter how this turns out the UKs economy will come out heavily weakened)
On a Political level it makes even less sense. (The UK loses massive Political Influence with that move. Its Soft Power is vanishing rapidly and relations to the UKs closest neighbors is in ruins)
On a Legal level it makes very little sense. (while alot of the stuff the Brexiteers claimed here is rubbish. It is indeed true that the EU is influencing the Laws in the UK. Now these being regarded positive or negative is a different story. I am generally in favor of Worker Protection Laws, Anti Dumping Laws and High Health and Consumer Protection Laws. But its also a fact that these do inhibit the market as they take power away from big Companies which otherwise would be able to make much more Money)


Thing is.
So far the Argument I heard for Pro Brexit are pretty much non existent.

The New Commonwealth being the new Biggest Market soon is not even worth being called a Pipe Dream. Not only did India and Australia deny that right away as the UK does not want to have Migration Treaties. But even if it was to come around it would still be smaller than the EU or the USA.

The Immigration going out of hand and EU people leeching from UKs Social Welfare has been proven Wrong repeatedly. As in fact the Immigrants from the EU are the biggest Net Supporter of the British Social Welfare System. (to be precise in many Years they are the only ones not Leeching from it)

In General the Idea that the UK could possibly go out of this with a Stronger Economy is Ridiculous.
Cutting off your Arm does make you more dexterous.



I am always ready to talk about any Pro Brexit Arguments of course.

At least you replied.

I agree with you, (mostly). But also.: Not every Socialist is Working Class and went to a 'normal' school. In fact 'those' who speak on 'behalf' of the working class are middle class. Hippies, who after their Art degree and 'Year out discovering themselves in Africa/Borneo (Mummy and Daddy siad it's important to be independent- but here's a cheque book just in case) whilst raising money for irrigation and schools (conveniently ignoring the religion that stopped them))_', have their own parking space outside the bank they work for now. Seen it over and over again.

What you are wrong about is assuming you know what someone else feels or believes in. You can't read minds. I think I know where you're coming from (not poles apart, actually) but I don't know that for sure.

Anyway, I'm glad to be alive, take care x
 
To question Israeli policy on any matter, is labelled as being anti-Semitic; that is wrong and you know it. I am now going to be labelled in the same way for simply raising this point; so be it.

Isn`t that the truth, silence the criticism of Israel for the mass murder of innocent Palestinian men, women and children using the usual antisemitic slur. It belittles the memory of those that lost their lives during the holocaust. Irish Senator David Norris gave a top class rebuttal of such practice in relation to the mass murder in Gaza, worth the ~8 mins to watch the clip,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ee8_dIEPo
 
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Something is sinking alright. The whole country.

Amusing from some one based in Finland, a country described by their own MPs as "The sick man of Europe"

That dismal description comes from the country's own Finance Minister, Alexander Stubb.

New figures for the economy's performance in 2015, showed that it managed to avoid a fourth consecutive year of declining economic activity. Even so, it was very lack lustre growth and the longer picture remains pretty bleak. The country is sinking .. lol

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35656150

Finland the country that is only alive because of the billions the UK pays into the EU, with France and Germany ( the three biggest donars), every year, ooops that's about to stop, what will finland do then, sink or swim :}
 
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Avago Earo

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To question Israeli policy on any matter, is labelled as being anti-Semitic; that is wrong and you know it. I am now going to be labelled in the same way for simply raising this point; so be it.


Yes, Arry.

For my part,I won't label you like that for having an opinion. about 99% of what ytou say (in previous conversations), I agree with. But that's irrelevant, I've had afew dreinks so I'm feeling emotional. 'Anti-sematic' to me means nothing. It's just something people shout at people to 'shame' them. It's like someone expressing a concern about 'Sharia', and then being called 'Islamophobic'. Rather than discuss the issues, just label people as fascists and carry on as if nothing ever happened.
 
Labour has secretly suspended 50 members for anti-Semitic and racist comments . All were vile comments about Jews and blacks, not Israel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/02/labour-has-secretly-suspended-50-members-for-anti-semitic-and-ra/

UK’s Jewish leader on Labour anti-Semitism: Jeremy Corbyn is incapable of shifting his irrational prejudices and he insults the millions dead.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-je...apable-of-shifting-his-irrational-prejudices/

Not the way to win an election, though not surprising as labour are desperate for votes and are after the muslim vote, who hate Israel, so what better way to seduce them.


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Labour are their own worse enemy in this election, and adopting BNP policies is not the way to win elections. Just because socialist parties in the EU promote Jew hatred, it does not mean the UK should.


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Yes, Arry.

For my part,I won't label you like that for having an opinion. about 99% of what ytou say (in previous conversations), I agree with. But that's irrelevant, I've had afew dreinks so I'm feeling emotional. 'Anti-sematic' to me means nothing. It's just something people shout at people to 'shame' them. It's like someone expressing a concern about 'Sharia', and then being called 'Islamophobic'. Rather than discuss the issues, just label people as fascists and carry on as if nothing ever happened.
I have found that with the people that don't have a constructive relevant argument, to counter the facts; they will resort to extreme labelling or distraction.

This tread is supposed to be about Mrs May's understanding that now; is probably her best and only chance of winning an election and if she leaves it for just a few months, all will be lost; because the 'austerity measures' imposed by her party are; A, not really working and B, effecting too many people.

As I stated earlier, lets not talk about the things that matter; or the current events that matter to us all. Let us once again; talk about Germans and Jews, the old propaganda and myths, just like we should do, like good blinkered subjects.
 

Avago Earo

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Labour has secretly suspended 50 members for anti-Semitic and racist comments . All were vile comments about Jews and blacks, not Israel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/02/labour-has-secretly-suspended-50-members-for-anti-semitic-and-ra/

UK’s Jewish leader on Labour anti-Semitism: Jeremy Corbyn is incapable of shifting his irrational prejudices and he insults the millions dead.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-je...apable-of-shifting-his-irrational-prejudices/

Not the way to win an election, though not surprising as labour are desperate for votes and are after the muslim vote, who hate Israel, so what better way to seduce them.


http://www.israellycool.com/wordpre...nst-Antisemitism-labour-councillor-tweets.jpg

Labour are their own worse enemy in this election, and adopting BNP policies is not the way to win elections. Just because the EU promotes jew hatred, it does not mean the UK should.


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/...wzAdn2IsQt66N-m-LPHzoNpXXrZxQzIU-CjTRy6tA6klQ Labours election posters


Are Labour the Fourth Reich then? Where does that leave us with the Tories then?
 
At least you replied.

I agree with you, (mostly). But also.: Not every Socialist is Working Class and went to a 'normal' school. In fact 'those' who speak on 'behalf' of the working class are middle class. Hippies, who after their Art degree and 'Year out discovering themselves in Africa/Borneo (Mummy and Daddy siad it's important to be independent- but here's a cheque book just in case) whilst raising money for irrigation and schools (conveniently ignoring the religion that stopped them))_', have their own parking space outside the bank they work for now. Seen it over and over again.

What you are wrong about is assuming you know what someone else feels or believes in. You can't read minds. I think I know where you're coming from (not poles apart, actually) but I don't know that for sure.

Anyway, I'm glad to be alive, take care x


Well. 100% agreement would be an incredible rare thing anyways.


One sidenote tough.
I do see people calling Islamophopic mostly when people are blaming Islam for stuff and attacking the Religion.

I have yet to see someone being called Islamophobe for expressing concern over the Sharia.

Again pls note some Differences here.
Someone saying we should put all Muslims on a leash and abandon any refugees because they are all knife stabbing ISIS Terrorists.
And someone expressing concerns about the Sharia and ISIS is two very very different things.
One is in my Eyes an Racist. Because well thats Racist. Its labeling people Criminals based on their Religion/Race
Which is ridiculous because not even 10% of the Muslim Population are following the radical variants of the Sharia which ISIS represents.




@Arry
Just saying. But I think that Israel has learned well from their Former Oppressors.
They are doing a Perfect "Osterweiterung" of their "Lebensraum"
And while their treatment of palestina is a few steps short of how they were treated. Their policies and oppression against them is neither acceptable nor something to be silent about.

And I have never been called Anti Semitic so far.
Which aint surprising either cause I actually like the Jewish Religion as it actually makes sense on alot of matters lol.


Pls dont try to hide behind such Generalizations.
Whats deciding what you are is you yourself with your behavior and your statements.

Also just a Fair warning.
Donald Trump and Theresa May are currently the only ones which are siding with Israel over these matters.
Most of the EU Nations and in general most of the remaining Nations in the World are actually not going sparse with what they think about Israels behavior down there.
 
Are Labour the Fourth Reich then? Where does that leave us with the Tories then?

If the labour voters are leaving Labour because of it, with Jewish voters and they are openly saying the are voting Tories, then Labour are the NEW BNP, hence the one party state in the UK is now unavoidable.

The 90% of you on here who are non British, what do you care anyway, you have your very own lovely EU dictatorship, corrupt one at that and if the French vote out of the EU, as it may happen, well you will all be running to your life boats for survival , that is where your concerns should be now as we are out of the EU and NEVER coming back, so ignore us as we are now ignoring you all in the EU. The French just might send you ALL ( except Germany) to the bottom of the ocean.
So is it not time yet to open a thread slagging the French off, as you have the UK for the last year. Or are you all waiting for the outcome of the vote?
 
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Amusing from some one based in Finland, a country described by their own MPs as "The sick man of Europe"
Citation needed.

Our current PM is a fundamentalist Christian tool of first order, and the country is feeling the effects. It's still a day in the park compared to the disaster unfolding in the UK.

That dismal description comes from the country's own Finance Minister, Alexander Stubb.

New figures for the economy's performance in 2015, showed that it managed to avoid a fourth consecutive year of declining economic activity. Even so, it was very lack lustre growth and the longer picture remains pretty bleak. The country is sinking .. lol

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35656150

Finland the country that is only alive because of the billions the UK pays into the EU, with France and Germany ( the three biggest donars), every year, ooops that's about to stop, what will finland do then, sink or swim :}

:D :D :D I think you probably even believe that! Oh man. Do check out how quickly we "sink" once the massive influx of EU money from UK to Finland stops. Funny how that works, as we're a net contributor. But then, reality hasn't stopped you making such statements before. Must be nice, living in your own private reality where you get to decide what is true and what is false.
 

Minonian

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You know what's the joke? I too thinking Palestina is the bad guy, and they are simply terrorists but for that, somehow i can't stand in the side of TM and Trumph, and also Hate nancy fanboys out of my guts. because honestly? In other things they are way too idiotic.

Environmentalism for a starter.
 
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Citation needed.

Our current PM is a fundamentalist Christian tool of first order, and the country is feeling the effects. It's still a day in the park compared to the disaster unfolding in the UK.



:D :D :D I think you probably even believe that! Oh man. Do check out how quickly we "sink" once the massive influx of EU money from UK to Finland stops. Funny how that works, as we're a net contributor. But then, reality hasn't stopped you making such statements before. Must be nice, living in your own private reality where you get to decide what is true and what is false.

Not only does he believe it, but when it is established that he is wrong he will not get angry with those who have lied to him, nor will he get angry with himself for believing lies, but he will get angry with Europe for not behaving in a way he expected and/or not being in the state he has been led to believe.

When you consider this psychological mindset is not a rarity in Britain, but is actually extremely common, you can see why Britain is now a country in complete chaos and disorder.

2014 - Referendum.
2015 - General election.
2016 - Referendum.
2017 - General Election.

This, along with the popular press declaring judges the "Enemies of the people" or calling on the Prime Minister to "crush saboteurs", along with people murdered in the streets for not speaking English, masses of racist attacks, homophobic attacks, and even a politician murdered for her support for refugees.

The structure of the UK has to follow its descent.

It is extremely fitting that England must leave Europe. It simply doesn't belong in a community of enlightened nations right now.
 
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