unable to complete "sell exploration data" when selling data to a system in reinforcement

[FrozenTomato]

I have done all missions given by my power this week.
After about 5 consecutives tries, I have been unable to complete the "Sell exploration Data at reinforcement systems"

I went several hundred LY away from the bubble.
Then, went to the power mission pane, through it was sent to the galaxy map with all systems in "reinforcement" status.
Selected one : Phra Lak
On this picture you can see that system says "REINFORCING" for Jerome Archer which is my power.
And to get to that galaxy map I went to the left panel, then transations, then PowerPlay assignments, then "Sell exploration data" and "VIEW IN MAPS"
I do that so I am sure the target system I will choose is the proper one.
And I also checked it was "REINFORCING" and to my power.
Picture here -> https://ibb.co/R3g8fSh

Going there and back, I collected 1 252 019 Cr in exploration data. (in fact, several millions because this is the 5th time I try to complete that assignment)
Picture here -> https://ibb.co/RpbqP7t

I checked with care what I am supposed to do. I first checked that NOTHING can be sold for completing this mission by going to Contacts -> Power Contact and checking every option.
The only way to sell that data is to gather it, dock into a station in a REINFORCING system, and it should complete.

So... I sell the data.

And for the 5th time : It. Does. Not. Work.

Picture -> https://ibb.co/bN0RZfL
No progress

Picture -> https://ibb.co/HhQMDDT
No progress

I have tried again, and again to gather exploration data.
I have tried to find ONLY stations in REINFORCE systems under Archer's control.


I keep going around. Been for two days now. And this stupid assignment never completes.

So what is the problem here exactly ? Am I doing something wrong ?

I explore. I find systems in REINFORCE + Archer by going through left panel, then transations, then PowerPlay assignments, then "Sell exploration data" and "VIEW IN MAPS"

Once I am in the system, I double check it is Archer + REINFORCE
Then I dock into a station and check it says "JEROME ARCHER CONTROL SYSTEM" .....

What the F are we supposed to do for this assignment ?

 

[Leadfoot]

It's not you, it's actually turned off temporarily. I found out the same thing.

 

[AcusTwinhammer]

Scan and sell more valuable systems.

I believe when they did their initial adjustment of merit gains for exploration data, one of the ways they did it was to make it so that only systems worth over a certain threshold amount (300K?) counted for merits--so if you scan a class M star and its pack of iceballs, you don't get any merits, even if you scan a lot of them and sell them all at once.

But this seems to have carried over to the Weekly assignment, the only data that counts is data that also gives you merits.

I had a similar task this week, and like you sold a bunch of crappy little systems, and got nothing. So then I jumped over to an in-bubble ELW that I had never bothered to scan, did a DSS of it, that had a 1.7 million value and was more than sufficient to both get me merits for the sale and count for the task.

 

[Koma Pahu]

Is that what it is. I’ve been holding on to my scans for a week while going and doing the guardian stuff and collecting raw mats etc. got back and sold several million of data only to get 20 merits.

 

[Ebel]

Yes, Fdev has nerfed exploration and exo-bio into the ground for purposes of merits. Credits are still good, but they don't value your time spent in these time intensive activities.

 

[Amo Wrath]

Hi folks. I'm in the same boat as the OP. I've read through the replies here as well as in another thread about the same problem. Everyone is talking about how much the various elements of exploration data are paid out, and frequently commenting on how low current values are when compared to "the old days (for lack of a better term)."

My question then is this: If I turn in exploration data at the Cartographics contact at a station in a reinforcing system, and earn 200,000 credits for the page, why does that not complete the mission of selling 141,000 credits worth of data? I'm not very bright, but I do know that 200,000 exceeds 141,000. While it may be a bummer that that an FSS scan of system WTF6969 used to bring in 1 million credits and now only brings in 1000 credits, that bummer-feel doesn't change the fact that 1000 credits of data sold is still 1000 credits of data sold.

So I have to think, outside of my silly scenario, that there is some hidden equivalency algorithm that is only crediting you 10% or 23% or whatever the % is of your data. Perhaps the mission goal of 141,000 credits requires 2.5 times that amount for it to count. Anecdotally, I just sold approx 450k credits worth of data and got ZILCH credit. Also, perhaps its not just a % more in value; it may be 141,000 credits worth of FSS+DSS+FD data collected.

Thanks for your time and consideration. It would be nice if FDev could clarify the issue and just plainly say "Sell 141,177 credits worth of exploration data 'that is earned from doing X plus Y plus Z' in any Reinforcement system."

 

[Straha Yeagar]

Hi folks. I'm in the same boat as the OP. I've read through the replies here as well as in another thread about the same problem. Everyone is talking about how much the various elements of exploration data are paid out, and frequently commenting on how low current values are when compared to "the old days (for lack of a better term)."

My question then is this: If I turn in exploration data at the Cartographics contact at a station in a reinforcing system, and earn 200,000 credits for the page, why does that not complete the mission of selling 141,000 credits worth of data? I'm not very bright, but I do know that 200,000 exceeds 141,000. While it may be a bummer that that an FSS scan of system WTF6969 used to bring in 1 million credits and now only brings in 1000 credits, that bummer-feel doesn't change the fact that 1000 credits of data sold is still 1000 credits of data sold.

So I have to think, outside of my silly scenario, that there is some hidden equivalency algorithm that is only crediting you 10% or 23% or whatever the % is of your data. Perhaps the mission goal of 141,000 credits requires 2.5 times that amount for it to count. Anecdotally, I just sold approx 450k credits worth of data and got ZILCH credit. Also, perhaps its not just a % more in value; it may be 141,000 credits worth of FSS+DSS+FD data collected.

Thanks for your time and consideration. It would be nice if FDev could clarify the issue and just plainly say "Sell 141,177 credits worth of exploration data 'that is earned from doing X plus Y plus Z' in any Reinforcement system."

I think ya may have some of this backwards...current exploration values are significantly higher than back in the olden days of exploration, like in some cases, over 100 times more now than back then. A single first discovery mapped high metal content terraforming candidate planet yields around 2.5 million credits, and a terraformable water world is well over 4 million credits. Back in the day, Neutron Stars were the most valuable at around 22,000 credits, with icy bodies less than 1k.

That said, for the purposes of the Power Play mission, the wording does seem to be a bit unintuitive, and really not clear. Not sure of the exact calculations Power Play uses to determine things, but I sold a short page of like five systems of exploration data last week for 15 million credits and that completed the mission. My guess is that the mission is looking for individual body value or possibly individual system value or something like that.

 

[AcusTwinhammer]

So here's my understanding of the system as it stands currently. I have not done extensive science on this, so some things may not be absolutely correct.

First, let's ignore the actual mission, and let's look at merits for turning in data. Looking at that, ignore the value of the page as a whole, as the merit system seems to look at individual system values. I don't know if there's an actual specific threshold value for a system to make it count for merits, or if it's only counting specific types of bodies (the presence of which would generally put the system beyond any suspected threshold value). But either way, if you sell data for a system that doesn't meet the criteria, you get zero merits.

Which means that if you have one page of data that has 20 systems each worth 100K, you make 2 million credits, but you get 0 merits. If the next page had 2 systems at 400K each, I think that's above the threshold, so you'd get merits for each of those systems, even though the page was only worth 800K.

OK, then going back to the mission--the way I think that's currently working is that only systems that give merits count for the mission progress. So in the above example, turning in that first page gave you zero merits, so it results in zero progress for the mission. Both of the systems on the second page gave merits, so both of those would count.

So why is it written in this confusing way if my understanding of the current mechanics is correct? It may not have been quite this way at launch--exploration data for merits was turned off almost immediately after PP2.0 launched because someone came in from multiple years in the black and gained something like 200 levels off of a single turn in of exploration data. It's possible that the current threshold system was the immediate reactionary nerf to that--all systems may have been worth at least a small amount of merits before that, if so, then all systems would have counted for the mission, but then when they changed the merit handouts they missed how that impacts the missions, and haven't yet gotten around to either fixing the mission or re-writing the mission text to make it clearer.

 

[Lloydww]

Sell exploration data to Fleet Carriers which have Universal Cartographics in the fortifying system.

 

[Kirkosism]

I had a similar problem to the op except this was selling data to a specific system, (Barnard's Star), and after three attempts, it finally registered complete.

The first two tries I just sold the full page of data without checking the individual worth of the scanned systems. The third time worked after reading an earlier post here and selling one set of system data that was worth more than the assignment, (assignment 401000 approx vs one system data with an Earthlike world scanned worth 2.5+ mill).

As a side note, on the last try I also landed planet side at a major city to sell the data rather than a space station. I did that on purpose because the wording in the assignment said "sell ... to a port" and after the first two attempts in space failed, I got to wondering if that was the cause. I honestly don't know if that mattered and I may test it if I receive this annoying assignment again, but I think it's more likely we have to sell an individual system's scanned data that's more than the value of the assignement, but I'm throwing the port thing in there because well, it's clearly either a bug or poorly worded assignment, either way, it was the two factors combined that worked for me! o7

 

[Zakilados]

I just turned in data which according to the WIKI should count above about 34,000 credits worth for 1. Sold at a powerplay station which is reinforcing and says on the map to get merits by turning in Data.

No merits for the data at all after selling 59,000 credits of data. I also tried smaller amounts and got nothing. I will be trying a few others and selling at same station to narrow down what is actually worth if anything.

Will try next at above 320,000 credits -- sell at same station
Will try at planet base in same type of system system (HIP 801 doesn't have bases)
Will try selling at Fleet Ship
will try selling at Stronghold Fleet Carrier

			Exploration Credits Worth
System	System Status	Solar Location	1k -34k/merits	34k-319k/merits	320k+/merits
HIP 801	Exploited	Weaver Port	No/no	No/no
	Fleet Carrier		No	No
	Base		No	No
Ehlanda	Fortified	Clark Port	No/no	No/no	Yes
	Fleet Carrier	Destiny Jog-12J	No/no	No/no
	Base	Gottlob Frege Point	No/no	No/no
Karsuki Ti	Stronghold	West Market	No/no	No/no
	Fleet Carrier	[ISS] Kinnickining	No/no	No/no
	Base		No	No

As some posted above it appears that a single sell above the mark counted. I am also checking for Merits. So far 56k has not given merits.
I have sold things close to 300k and gotten no merits. Only merits received form the mission was for the mission only

Added issue not receiving Merits for Selling Rare goods in question systems: (Wiki says: 1 merit per ~693 CR SELL price)
Serrod
Kavane
Selling at Nunus for profit merits - (wiki has some tested amounts ) Profit might not have been high enough but I got 0 merits from welling 8 different Rare Goods at Nunus.
Only merits received from selling rare goods was from the PP mission.

 

[Ebel]

Sell exploration data to Fleet Carriers which have Universal Cartographics in the fortifying system.

and the results of this is what?

 

[FrozenTomato]

Gave up on the mission. Could not get it to work. I today have the same issue with the "Recover goods from LP 580-33 System"
Went to 3 settlements on that system already. Looted EVERYTHING from closed containers outside and closed containers inside buildings.
Then, I went back to Delta Equuleis where I am supposed to deliver/sell those goods.

The power contact wants none of those goods. There is not even an option to deliver anything.
Tried to sell the goods to the bartender : same result, no progress on task.

Another stupid task I won't be able to complete. Another stupid task I will never try again to do.

If PowerPlay keeps this ty, I will abandon it.

 

[zimms]

Gave up on the mission. Could not get it to work. I today have the same issue with the "Recover goods from LP 580-33 System"
Went to 3 settlements on that system already. Looted EVERYTHING from closed containers outside and closed containers inside buildings.
Then, I went back to Delta Equuleis where I am supposed to deliver/sell those goods.

The power contact wants none of those goods. There is not even an option to deliver anything.
Tried to sell the goods to the bartender : same result, no progress on task.

Another stupid task I won't be able to complete. Another stupid task I will never try again to do.

If PowerPlay keeps this ty, I will abandon it.

Regular, old Odyssey goods don't count. There are new PP goods and they can only be found in special Powerplay containers. Like all containers, there's a chance they are empty. Maybe were unlucky when you raided the settlement.

 

[Lloydww]

I had an assignment to sell exploration data to Liu Bajara, an ALD system which was fortified.
I tried selling data to the local Starport but the assignment would not complete. So I did an experiment. I scanned 3 systems containing an ELW with a surface scan of said ELW. On returning to Liu Bajara I sold one system worth of data (7m cr) to the local Starport but the mission failed to complete. I next sold a system worth of data to my own Fleet Carrier which has its own Universal Cartographics and was parked in the system. The assignment completed. I sold the remaining data to my FC.
This episode occurred after the nerf to exploration and exobiology data.
As an aside this method does not work for exobiology.

 

[R4dioS1lence]

Every settlement has 2, identified as Powerplay Container. Learned that by accident that they count, when one of my weeklies completed without me knowing (delivered the goods at the PP Contact, not selling at the bar).

But Bio Data missions still broken for me. Got one, got a Spire Site data, went to the system to deliver, and nothing, nada, nil. I think influence range might be playing a factor here (only data from in-range counts), but I ain't scouring that system for all of its Bacterium samples (just learned why explorers hate those). Would be nice if the Artemis tool got a secondary mode that does a long range scan and points you in a direction at least (the short burst is only good for a few meters). If not the Artemis, SRVs should be able to pick up the signals.

But will try the FC selling that Lloydww did. Maybe it will work for Biodata now. EDIT: Nope, doesn't work at all. Kinda bummer that you can still get issued weeklies that can't be completed. Thought that was corrected last minor update.

 

[Lloydww]

Update. I had another Sell Exploration data assignment this week. It completed just fine at the local starport.

 

[R4dioS1lence]

Got the ExploData again this week, but it went through. This time the system had a Starport, so I didn't need to use a ground one like I had to do last week, which might be related. but I'm not sure I got merits for it... EDDLite at least shows no line about acquiring merits, only the sold data value and the rank up I got in Exobio).
Still, also got a Do Crimes one, and I'm never even touching that one again. 385k in Bounties is easy, but when every kill (ship, not ground) yields only 1K towards it, ain't now way I'm doing that.

 

[ArturW]

I wonder: If this function is deactivated since December 2024, why did I get this mission on the 06.02.2025? It is really annoying to try to fulfill a mission only to find out an hour later by searching google: "Oh this couldn't work. Fdev deactivated this function/mission over a month ago and were too lazy to delete the mission / replace the mission."

 

[BlueStar001]

Just wanted to add I encountered the same problem where I turned Exploration data hoping to complete the mission and it did nothing...
I really wish exo bio would earn merits as well

I like the changes to Power Play but there are things that just aren't working and make me not want to participate until they do
Please fix these issues as soon as you can

Thank you.