The facts in your statement are correct. What I'm saying is that I don't think "event" CGs like this should be determined by literally nothing but chance. This wasn't a CG, it was a lottery. Again, its not about the reward but the feeling of contribution in something billed as a community event.
Unrealistic Expectations For CGs
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The facts in your statement are correct. What I'm saying is that I don't think "event" CGs like this should be determined by literally nothing but chance. This wasn't a CG, it was a lottery. Again, its not about the reward but the feeling of contribution in something billed as a community event.
BAH HAHAHAHA!!!
If i were them i would have teased it with 5-10 minute long quest with voice acting, cutscene that everyone could do and it would had some cosmetic reward or permit reward etc. It would have been new, much more exiting than this CG and would hint that the story telling would improve. But this CG wasn't anything exiting, original and was badly implemented. We have had this kind of CG before and that one was more exiting and better done than this.
I'm a bit baffled by the notion that every community goal should be designed to allow 100% player participation. This doesn't happen IRL on our one tiny planet, so how is this reasonable to expect in a huge collection of star systems?
Consider the following example: From what I can tell, the wedding of William and Kate was a community event of a sorts, and a big one at that. However, I suspect only the "upper echelon" of British society - a chosen few - were able to attend the ceremony itself at Westminster Abbey. This might be analogous to Ed's inclusive group during Part 1 of the E3 CG.
Afterwards I believe there was a huge parade through London open to the public. If I had taken time off of work, invested in a ticket, and flown across the ocean, I could have attended this event. Nahh, too much work and money. However, many people in proximity of the event attended and had a blast.
So what did I do? Did I moan and complain about how unfair the world is? No, I watched the event unfold via livesteam and enjoyed it from afar. I'm happy for everyone who participated in the event, and I think the event itself has added to the richness and lore of Britain. I see no reason to be sour.
I happen to live in a pretty boring "quadrant" of the world, so I tend to miss out on most "community events", unless it's some small town America shindig like happens on July 4th. I could move to where the action is, but I happen to like it here, and day-to-day life keeps me busy and happy. I keep up on the events of the world via the news, live streams, friends, etc. Once in a while I go on an exciting vacation to take part in a big community event, but I don't go chasing every single event happening all across America and the world.
Perhaps for my next vacation, I'll go to New Mexico and see if I can get abducted by an alien. If I wait for hours and no aliens grab me, I'll come to this forum and complain
May every day be Christmas in Truth Or Consequences NM, just for you, with no utilities, vehicle, or open facilities of any kind.
All that fuzz over trade show event... It was for E3 hype purposes (oh lookie here we have aliens and something will be revealed because of this CG), deal with it
I saw it at the last moment (had set course for bed already, waiting to engage ;-) ) and saw the mail from no one other but Palin himself. What the... thought to myself. Fired up E: D, wasted a few minutes jumping for my asp and then to the system, handed in data from my glitchy 6 hyperdictions (which maliciously happened when I was flying a business trip to mr palin himself and not carrying a wake scanner like, you know, previously when I jumped three days just to see a glimpse of the aliens, no luck I may add...). Anyhow wasted some time, at tier 7 I was at 50% with 6mln Cr, which may have fallen to top 75% since. Waste of time, you didn't miss anything.
I saw it at the last moment (had set course for bed already, waiting to engage ;-) ) and saw the mail from no one other but Palin himself. What the... thought to myself. Fired up E: D, wasted a few minutes jumping for my asp and then to the system, handed in data from my glitchy 6 hyperdictions (which maliciously happened when I was flying a business trip to mr palin himself and not carrying a wake scanner like, you know, previously when I jumped three days just to see a glimpse of the aliens, no luck I may add...). Anyhow wasted some time, at tier 7 I was at 50% with 6mln Cr, which may have fallen to top 75% since. Waste of time, you didn't miss anything.
Right on, Commander!
Braben mentioned in one of his interviews that not everybody can rescue the princess.
Only one CMDR discovered Colonia.
Only one CMDR discovered the first Alien ruin or got the UA to "sing".
Not every CMDR can participate in a CG in the bubble, or in Colonia because, as Douglas Adams ,once wrote "Space is big".
Hyperdiction appears to be purely random, as no Cannon research discovered the key to make it happen every time.
So you will have a distribution of users who will be Hyperdicted too much, too little and just enough as well as those who will never get hyperdicted.
There is no "I Win" button in Elite, the game isn't fair, the chance that you will be the one to "rescue the princess" is very, very slight.
If this is the start of "Winter" that his Brabeness alluded to and a pre-cursor to 2.4 then there will lots of new things for you to whinge about and give you the opportunity to not "rescue the princess" in the near future.
Only one CMDR discovered Colonia.
Only one CMDR discovered the first Alien ruin or got the UA to "sing".
Not every CMDR can participate in a CG in the bubble, or in Colonia because, as Douglas Adams ,once wrote "Space is big".
Hyperdiction appears to be purely random, as no Cannon research discovered the key to make it happen every time.
So you will have a distribution of users who will be Hyperdicted too much, too little and just enough as well as those who will never get hyperdicted.
There is no "I Win" button in Elite, the game isn't fair, the chance that you will be the one to "rescue the princess" is very, very slight.
If this is the start of "Winter" that his Brabeness alluded to and a pre-cursor to 2.4 then there will lots of new things for you to whinge about and give you the opportunity to not "rescue the princess" in the near future.
People had six months to get hyperdicted, they weren't keen on the experience when there was no reward other than the experience, now there is one there's hell to pay because THEY DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PREVIOUS SIX MONTHS.
Basically if you'd been hyperdicted in the last six months (it wasn't hard to get done if you really tried) and watched the stream, you could have done the CG (assuming you weren't in Colonia).
Personally the anger around this is ridiculous.
Basically if you'd been hyperdicted in the last six months (it wasn't hard to get done if you really tried) and watched the stream, you could have done the CG (assuming you weren't in Colonia).
Personally the anger around this is ridiculous.
And I'm cool with that. But you know what? "CG" is an abbreviation for Community Goal.
This is nonsense. I unlocked Palin and went here and there many times, and haven't been interdicted ONCE! And I was hoping to be.
I file this sort of thing into the same category as Hollywood Who's -->ing Who, because it really matters just about as much. Here's what I know about Will and Kate:
Neither owes me money.
I owe neither of them money.
I don't _know_ either of them, and if they were vanish mysteriously, my life would be completely unaffected. In short, they're nobody to me.
I didn't watch livestreams of anything, I don't follow the tabloids and gossip columns - because nothing that happens in Fantasy Land where these celebrity types and political figures live, has any affect on me at all.
I pay attention to things in the news that actually matter, track the movement of terrorists, the price and availability of ammunition, how my investments are doing and what the weather is supposed to be.
All the rest of the glam-hype-gossip crap, is, well, crap.
I happen to live in a pretty boring "quadrant" of the world, so I tend to miss out on most "community events", unless it's some small town America shindig like happens on July 4th. I could move to where the action is, but I happen to like it here, and day-to-day life keeps me busy and happy. I keep up on the events of the world via the news, live streams, friends, etc. Once in a while I go on an exciting vacation to take part in a big community event, but I don't go chasing every single event happening all across America and the world.
Perhaps for my next vacation, I'll go to New Mexico and see if I can get abducted by an alien. If I wait for hours and no aliens grab me, I'll come to this forum and complain
We might be neighbors here in Boringtown, as I'm nestled away in a nice, quiet area as well, and am completely happy with it. I tend to skip out on most "community events", as they tend to be little more than a venue for more and more commercialism I'm perfect happy to live without, and ego-stroking of folks who think they are far more important than they really are.
I don't begrudge anyone who does happen to enjoy all this - some folks like to watch cars drive around in circles really fast too.
But the point of this really is - Elite's Community Goals are open to the general public, should they desire to participate, regardless of where they are. In many ways I think of them like Burning Man - and if you don't know Burning Man, google can help. Anyone can come and participate as much or as little as they like. Getting there is on them.
Nailed it.
However, there are plenty of complaints in this thread whining about how unfair the game is. The number of people that can't just enjoy the game they bought is amazing. It's like they bought a dream instead of a game, and are now spending their days incessantly complaining about haw far from their dream the game is.
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FDev made another shameless, deliberate effort to waste players time, caring only about getting viewers to tune in by intentionally promising tie is that didn't exist.
Players, rightfully, get angry about having their time deliberately wasted by lies.
And along cones someone to defend the poor, hurt feelings of the devs.
Look...I know the Suits at FDev make the decisions. But the actions those decisions lead to, have of late been pretty despicable.
How much more game play could we have, if the salaries weren't going to texture artists for $700 worth of add-on cosmetics? How about RNGineers gambling? Because make no mistake, those ARE slit machine handles you're pulling.
And now, they just outright lies to trump up viewers.
But hey...let's not hurt feelings over it or anything...
Screw that. Don't want criticism? Try not intentionally wasting my time.
FDev made another shameless, deliberate effort to waste players time, caring only about getting viewers to tune in by intentionally promising tie is that didn't exist.
Players, rightfully, get angry about having their time deliberately wasted by lies.
And along cones someone to defend the poor, hurt feelings of the devs.
Look...I know the Suits at FDev make the decisions. But the actions those decisions lead to, have of late been pretty despicable.
How much more game play could we have, if the salaries weren't going to texture artists for $700 worth of add-on cosmetics? How about RNGineers gambling? Because make no mistake, those ARE slit machine handles you're pulling.
And now, they just outright lies to trump up viewers.
But hey...let's not hurt feelings over it or anything...
Screw that. Don't want criticism? Try not intentionally wasting my time.
Indeed it is. And, as part of the Community, I headed out there last night and spent an hour trying to get hyperdicted. No joy.
However, I participated. Without 1000's of commanders *trying* to get hyperdicted, there wouldn't have been enough data to fill the CG. Sure I didn't get to deliver any data, but really, me being there is increasing the odds that as a Community we succeeded and got the CG done. Yay.
What do you want? A million credits? I can see how it would be annoying if there was some cool Thargoid decal reward for the CG, then I realise a few people would likely get salty. But a pile of us went there to get the data, and although some people didn't get to collect a million credits, we (the Community) got the job done.
I really don't see the problem.
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In order to further their ghastly master plan to...remind me?
Your argument is stronger than mine.
Honestly I may have been a bit harsh, but I feel like the whining is undeserved and a shame. One of those times when the community looks bad.
Just to clarify, my OP is regarding Community Goals in general, not just yesterday's CG. The one area of specificity I focus on is the flawed, nonsensical concept that the entire population of the galaxy should be able to not just take part, but be a major contributor, in any and all CGs. Whether or not the actual CG itself sucks is an entirely different topic.