Spending half my waking life on these forums I have to say that Old Duck has never said anything worth saying. It's always some sort of nonsense like this. Comparing this to some stupid royal wedding? I couldn't begin to tell you how stupid you sound saying this. "Oh I missed the royal wedding so you shouldn't be mad you missed the CG" is bordering on mentally ill levels of association.
Unrealistic Expectations For CGs
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Fdev goes to my spam folder. All the emails they send are usually incredibly dumb and the language they use feels patronizing when it even makes grammatical sense at all.
He really quite admires me, he just doesn't want to let on - a reputation to keep, perhaps? [heart]
It entirely depends what the CG is.
But in all honesty most CGs nobody cares that much if they couldn't do it. I don't think anyone is claiming every CG should be designed to allow 100% participation, I am not sure where you are getting that from.
From memory the last one where there was a bit of a hoo har was the xmas CG, where anyone participating got a silver Eagle skin, not available any other way.
CG completed quicktime, people complained that the CG wasn't created such that everyone could participate.
The payoff makes that understandable.
And the next one causing a hoo har after that was the E3 one yesterday.
This one isn't such a big deal really, but it's just people think there's a bit more to it than there actually was. (due to how it was sold)
From what I've seen it'll make no difference if you handed in data yesterday or not.
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I have no issue that the CG was short, it's not like I participate or have interest in every one anyway (I have no interest in this one either). I just thought it was an extremely poor marketing play for FD to jump on the E3 hype train (had nothing to do with E3), and use a CG (for nothing other than to spin the RNG wheel for no reward). It's all rather tawdry and comes off as being extremely lame. If you want to try something new, then great, but please give it better "content" if you want to use a CG vehicle.
I'm a bit baffled by the notion that every community goal should be designed to allow 100% player participation. This doesn't happen IRL on our one tiny planet, so how is this reasonable to expect in a huge collection of star systems?
Consider the following example: From what I can tell, the wedding of William and Kate was a community event of a sorts, and a big one at that. However, I suspect only the "upper echelon" of British society - a chosen few - were able to attend the ceremony itself at Westminster Abbey. This might be analogous to Ed's inclusive group during Part 1 of the E3 CG.
Afterwards I believe there was a huge parade through London open to the public. If I had taken time off of work, invested in a ticket, and flown across the ocean, I could have attended this event. Nahh, too much work and money. However, many people in proximity of the event attended and had a blast.
So what did I do? Did I moan and complain about how unfair the world is? No, I watched the event unfold via livesteam and enjoyed it from afar. I'm happy for everyone who participated in the event, and I think the event itself has added to the richness and lore of Britain. I see no reason to be sour.
I happen to live in a pretty boring "quadrant" of the world, so I tend to miss out on most "community events", unless it's some small town America shindig like happens on July 4th. I could move to where the action is, but I happen to like it here, and day-to-day life keeps me busy and happy. I keep up on the events of the world via the news, live streams, friends, etc. Once in a while I go on an exciting vacation to take part in a big community event, but I don't go chasing every single event happening all across America and the world.
Perhaps for my next vacation, I'll go to New Mexico and see if I can get abducted by an alien. If I wait for hours and no aliens grab me, I'll come to this forum and complain
Rant about why people shouldn't rant about stuff.
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There is an "I win" button. That's the problem. There's an "I win" button which only ever functions some unknown percentage of the time, and then you play the "game" by pressing it over and over again until you are lucky enough to have your numbers come up.
Some people "win" on their 1st press. And their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. They say "this game is easy, I don't get what the big deal is. Also I am an amazing genius surrounded by idiots"
Some people "win" on their 100th press. They say, "it took some effort, but it all paid off. I don't get why people are complaining, they're probably just lazy and want everything handed to them."
Some people "win" on their 1000th press. They say "Yeah it's difficult and nothing in this game is handed to you, but if *I* can do it, *you* can do it too."
Some people "win" on their 100,000th press, and say "Glad that's over. I'm never doing that again."
Some people press the button hundreds of thousands of times, until their fingers bleed, and they say "This isn't even really a game."
And everyone else says that they are entitled, lazy, and stupid. They say, "well if you don't like it, don't play it. Loser." And then they say something something save the princess something something toys out of the pram.
Well then you're doing a great job of arguing against a point that almost nobody is making.
I'm not salty (nor angry, as someone implied). I respect FDev's efforts here to actually try and engage the community for this announcement. I also repeatedly said I was not after any kind of in-game reward from this CG. The only thing I wanted was some sense of contribution here, at least some degree of accomplishment, something to weave into my characters life story. (It's all make-believe, so nothing wrong in wanting interesting make-believe).
Just because you don't see the problem, doesn't mean there isn't one for other people. I love this game, and I want it to improve and grow. People offering constructive feedback aren't your enemy.
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There's no "Fun" button either.
Heh there should be a RSS feed of your comments somewhere. As usual a pleasure to read. Consider me a stalker^W fan ;-). Rep.
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Well said.
I'm in the 100k+ and no win crowd. RNGineers killed the fun for me. Just killed it. I can't be bothered.
I just realized there's another level to it. There are of course multiple boxes with "win" buttons on them. If you are a totally insane masochist, like me, you might press the first button 100,000 times and then conclude "Hey this is stupid! It's not even a real game!" and then, for some ridiculous reason, you'll glance over to the left and see another, identical black box with a button on in, and you'll think "hmmm, I should give this a try!"
Last night I spent another 2 hours jumping around Pleiades and Ares Dark region before deciding enough is enough. What did I do instead? I decided I would try engineering my ship, and spent 2 more fruitless hours looking for pharmaceutical Isolators, an Engineering material which has had an active thread going on since last year, chronicling the frustration and confusion surrounding its attainment. Thank god it was almost my bedtime and I only managed 2 hours before I had to sleep on it and come to my senses.
Elite is the coolest, most amazing game ever made, so long as you don't try to play it.
Don't be reasonable, it might break the forums.
What I do is just use my inner narrative. I'd just pretend I salvaged some pharmaceutical isolators....then pretend I had engineered my ship. Pretend I saved the princess. Pretend I got hyperdicted.
While I agree its somewhat daft to complain some content happens without you because you were elsewhere, I dont like RL analogies. Just because the vast majority of the world population is starving doesnt mean most people in this game should polish my Corvette for a few credits per week, for example. Games exist to escape the limitations of reality, not mimick them.
Alternatively, one could acknowledge one doesnt get the rarest of materials and the grandest of custom upgrades every thirty minutes. I know, I know, its a bizarre notion... Seriously though, why not hop on to the Diablo3 board and complain you've been playing for two hours and still didn't get a Star of Azkaranth, see what the responses are. Interestingly enough this 'mature and adult' community here has the shortest attention span and strongest sense of entitlement I have yet encountered in an online gaming community.
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