Update 6 Terrain Comparison Thread

[Far Beyond Driven]

I see this too - I think the height map adjusts and shallows out as you approach. I’ve seen some loverly deep areas which, as you say, shallow out. This may be a draw problem at distance - but yes I’ve seen this happen

No, your pc is broken.

 

[CMDR Von Abrahart]

No, your pc is broken.

Have some Tranya

 

[Ian Skippy]

I literally watch mountains shrink and canyons fill in and become shallow as I approach. The terrain morphing is real. Some features that look dramatic in supercruise become weeny when you get to the planet. The lod on approach is choppy and not smooth also. If they are problems on my end, well that's fine but its still a problem I never saw with Horizons. So my only reference point is me either way, so if I see it happening, is it not legit?

I am not saying it is not a legit complaint, I am saying you are misdirecting your complaint. I'm packing my suitcase for another trip now, so it'll have to wait a week, but I can show you additional videos to prove it really doesn't shrink in any way at all as you could see on my earlier video. If it looks drastically different on your end it means things aren't loading correctly/fast enough. That is certainly possible, but you should insist FD fix that, rather than argue EDO planets don't have suchaccurate data transition levels.

My PC and not Odyssey being rushed and broken. With MULTIPLE apologies by Braben and issues devs have verified and acknowledged? And its really a my pc sucks thing to you lol. That just sounds desperate man.

No, I am not saying your pc is the problem. I am saying that EDO has performance issues, and on some pcs those issues are enough to no longer be able to do certain things appropriately. My EDO is as broken as yours, and as I factually showed you those issues do not exist with EDO planets themselves. It is certainly possible that the performance issues of EDO are so severe that on your (and others) pc you currently cannot see it. And yes, that is a problem that should be fixed by FD.

But, again, that is not an issue with EDO planets. Its like complaining that the walking animation of NPCs only consist of three frames: it is factually not true and if you see it it means your FPS is just abysmal due to EDO's performance issue. It is perfectly reasonable to complain about it, but at least make sure you are complaining about the correct issue.

Finally: I am not 'desperate', after all, if anything this is not my problem at all. All I am doing is helping you understand that the fundamental issue you have is not with the planet generation, which itself works without the issues you describe, but underlying performance issues. And those will improve over time. It is not an 'attack on your pc', it is a message of some hope.

And now I have to find my socks.

 

[Deleted member 182079]

I'm packing my suitcase for another trip now

Don't fly without rebuy, and make sure to scan all plants

 

[Far Beyond Driven]

I am not saying it is not a legit complaint, I am saying you are misdirecting your complaint. I'm packing my suitcase for another trip now, so it'll have to wait a week, but I can show you additional videos to prove it really doesn't shrink in any way at all as you could see on my earlier video. If it looks drastically different on your end it means things aren't loading correctly/fast enough. That is certainly possible, but you should insist FD fix that, rather than argue EDO planets don't have suchaccurate data transition levels.

No, I am not saying your pc is the problem. I am saying that EDO has performance issues, and on some pcs those issues are enough to no longer be able to do certain things appropriately. My EDO is as broken as yours, and as I factually showed you those issues do not exist with EDO planets themselves. It is certainly possible that the performance issues of EDO are so severe that on your (and others) pc you currently cannot see it. And yes, that is a problem that should be fixed by FD.

But, again, that is not an issue with EDO planets. Its like complaining that the walking animation of NPCs only consist of three frames: it is factually not true and if you see it it means your FPS is just abysmal due to EDO's performance issue. It is perfectly reasonable to complain about it, but at least make sure you are complaining about the correct issue.

Finally: I am not 'desperate', after all, if anything this is not my problem at all. All I am doing is helping you understand that the fundamental issue you have is not with the planet generation, which itself works without the issues you describe, but underlying performance issues. And those will improve over time. It is not an 'attack on your pc', it is a message of some hope.

And now I have to find my socks.

Have a good trip Ian. I hope you find your socks.

 

[CMDR Von Abrahart]

I am not saying it is not a legit complaint, I am saying you are misdirecting your complaint. I'm packing my suitcase for another trip now, so it'll have to wait a week, but I can show you additional videos to prove it really doesn't shrink in any way at all as you could see on my earlier video. If it looks drastically different on your end it means things aren't loading correctly/fast enough. That is certainly possible, but you should insist FD fix that, rather than argue EDO planets don't have suchaccurate data transition levels.

No, I am not saying your pc is the problem. I am saying that EDO has performance issues, and on some pcs those issues are enough to no longer be able to do certain things appropriately. My EDO is as broken as yours, and as I factually showed you those issues do not exist with EDO planets themselves. It is certainly possible that the performance issues of EDO are so severe that on your (and others) pc you currently cannot see it. And yes, that is a problem that should be fixed by FD.

But, again, that is not an issue with EDO planets. Its like complaining that the walking animation of NPCs only consist of three frames: it is factually not true and if you see it it means your FPS is just abysmal due to EDO's performance issue. It is perfectly reasonable to complain about it, but at least make sure you are complaining about the correct issue.

Finally: I am not 'desperate', after all, if anything this is not my problem at all. All I am doing is helping you understand that the fundamental issue you have is not with the planet generation, which itself works without the issues you describe, but underlying performance issues. And those will improve over time. It is not an 'attack on your pc', it is a message of some hope.

And now I have to find my socks.

Hmmmm - i think its the meshing on the planet LOD it cant realise that detail, so perhaps its more optical then actual - i’ve seen it everywhere - certainly not my PC.

 

[dannysquid]

I see this too - I think the height map adjusts and shallows out as you approach. I’ve seen some loverly deep areas which, as you say, shallow out. This may be a draw problem at distance - but yes I’ve seen this happen

I think it's just adding more detail to the altitude stuff all the time. My guess, based on no real tech knowledge on this, is that the actual data is there, but that the shaders for rendering it take a while to catch up. When it was flakier earlier on, I think I've had situations where I've crashed into landscapes that haven't popped into place yet. So the collision detection has the full detail but the actual shaders don't.

Or something completely different to this!

 

[HRDiagram]

I'm packing my suitcase for another trip now, so it'll have to wait a week

Are you leaving any stuphz that you want being looked after whilst away?

PS

I've got your sockz

 

[CaptainPugwash]

I see this too - I think the height map adjusts and shallows out as you approach. I’ve seen some loverly deep areas which, as you say, shallow out. This may be a draw problem at distance - but yes I’ve seen this happen

Personally I have found this problem to be much improved in update 6, to the point that before I couldn’t stand it, now it’s fun to potter around looking at stuff.

 

[VR SenseiMatty]

Can't FDEV just bring the Horizons planetary tech back and add the "tenuous" atmospheric effect to the new planets?
What's this mess?

 

[J Michaelson]

I don't like all the changes to the planets since Odyssey launched, but they are getting better. Some dogs still exist, sure, but there are also a lot of times I personally am enjoying getting close and landing on some of the weirder looking places. There's a real Chesley Bonestell feel to some now, rather than No Man's Sky which is literally cartoon-land. This one in particular had a lot more scale to its elevation changes than before. It was genuinely fun cruising around fins, descending lower and lower until finally finding the bloody Anenome plants in the lowest portion. I hadn't seen a planet like the second one here before, either. It's a metal-rich world around a B-type star.

 

[quackinthebush]

P.S. here's a nice example of what I loved about Horizons terrain ... infinitely compelling in its wonderous form and variation and a true masterpiece of procedural generation.

Source: https://youtu.be/flOiYc6kelc

P.S. give it a minute to get over that first rise.

Totally agree with everything you, Far Beyond, and Merkir have said. Btw, what planet is that video from, and what do you use for controls? Beautiful driving...

 

[[VR] Mad Life Crisis]

gone from a dazzling blue Tatooine dessert to a dull grey Slough shopping centre

I know a guy that can get you discount on A4 plain paper from there.

 

[Alec Turner]

Totally agree with everything you, Far Beyond, and Merkir have said. Btw, what planet is that video from, and what do you use for controls? Beautiful driving...

The planet is Kumay in the Chi Herculis system. For control I'm using a HOTAS, twist stick for wheel steering and the usual stick controls for pitch and roll, drive assist off and full range throttle.