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Growing a Christmas tree may take 4-5 years but decorating it only takes an hour and some tears... and some more tears!
Who knows what can be achieved in 400,000 man hours? (person hours)
Make the game a bit easier for the players starting out and slightly change the trade and speedometer UIs? At least that's 400,000 Fdev hours.
 
Actually the first 100 reference is from early 2015, from M Brookes himself :cool:

With regards to your comments post 2.1 what happens, I think, is that we often underestimate the work done because we take it for granted. Or that we dismiss it because it is not what we would have preferred personally.

The amount of work gone into the Horizons updates and then Beyond was astounding. It suffices to look into those updates list of features and patch notes details, not only the headline features. The shift of workload from those to new era can be seen gradually as time goes by, and it is fully compatible with a team over 100+ since 2015-2016.

None of this guarantees the new era will be mind blowing though. That we will only see once it releases.
Putting my fanboy trousers off for a minute, I believe the problem is that the content from 2.1-2.4 wasn't top quality. Some people wrongly make the assumption that stuff they don't like doesn't take effort.
Let's try a stupid analogy. It requires 50 people to build a house. Just two of them are required for the windows and doors. Somehow the two of them are missing and the house ends up without windows. Maybe because the architect forgot about it, or because they had other projects, because something wasn't ready or because something went wrong earlier and they need to fix something first. It's still an enormous effort to build a house, it's functionality is lacking though.
 
Make the game a bit easier for the players starting out and slightly change the trade and speedometer UIs? At least that's 400,000 Fdev hours.
If you don't see it, it doesn't exist?
Nothing wrong with being sceptical about the new era stuff, but it doesn't really work that way. If you believe that the 2020 expansion is a lie you can't refer to 400.000 FDEV hours...
 
I've never been to Mexico, but I've seen the Mexican football team. It's strange that Mexico isn't better at football, considering every Mexican is a football player.

/logic
 

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Some people wrongly make the assumption that stuff they don't like doesn't take effort.

Fully agree, that is exactly my point.

Let's try a stupid analogy. It requires 50 people to build a house. Just two of them are required for the windows and doors. Somehow the two of them are missing and the house ends up without windows. Maybe because the architect forgot about it, or because they had other projects, because something wasn't ready or because something went wrong earlier and they need to fix something first. It's still an enormous effort to build a house, it's functionality is lacking though.

Although I agree that Horizons is not perfect and also agree with the overall analogy principle its end result scale seems a bit out of whack in the case of Horizons :p The actual result of the 2.1-2.4 work can be seen in the expansion attachment rates and player concurrency. Based on those Horizons must have been a reasonable success (including some of the highest concurrency peaks since release in Steam), in your words its "functionality" therefore could not have been as bad as a house "without doors or windows" ;) .
 
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Fully agree, that is exactly my point.



Although I agree witht the analogy principle its end result scale seems a bit out of whack in the case of Horizons :p The actual result of the 2.1-2.4 work can be seen in the expansion attachment rates and player concurrency. Based on those Horizons must have been a reasonable success (including some of the highest concurrency peaks since release in Steam), in your words its "functionality" therefore could not have been as bad as a house "without doors or windows" ;) .
True, I tried to see it from the perspective of someone who really doesn't like Horizons. ;)
 
Putting my fanboy trousers off for a minute, I believe the problem is that the content from 2.1-2.4 wasn't top quality. Some people wrongly make the assumption that stuff they don't like doesn't take effort.
Let's try a stupid analogy. It requires 50 people to build a house. Just two of them are required for the windows and doors. Somehow the two of them are missing and the house ends up without windows. Maybe because the architect forgot about it, or because they had other projects, because something wasn't ready or because something went wrong earlier and they need to fix something first. It's still an enormous effort to build a house, it's functionality is lacking though.
My take on 2.1 - 2.4 was that the updates were too fragmented. They added lots of different small things instead of making the one thing really good. NPCs and SLF is a prime example. Good fun and a nice addition, but a whole update could have been done for that and they could have been so much better. The same goes for passenger missions in the same update. They could have been so much more if the update just concentrated on them. Unfortunately 2.1 - 2.4 was just too fragmented in terms of features.

Also they should have been concentrating on planet surface gameplay. Whats the point in introducing planetary landings if you are not going to expand on the gameplay on planets in the subsequent updates.
 
Yes especially when we see the price of the ships.

The first (and last) time I looked at their store I genuinely thought it was in game currency or I'd been redirected to some scammers fake site.

I checked it was legit laughed my pants off and have never once considered it as a serious prospect since.

It just can't be on the level when full finished AAA games cost a quarter of the price of their lower tier ships. As for the higher tier ones that's just bonkers.

The $37,000 dollar ship pack is so far beyond crazy I'm baffled that the feds haven't kicked the door in already.

Video games cost about $60, $100 with loads of extras.
 
The first (and last) time I looked at their store I genuinely thought it was in game currency or I'd been redirected to some scammers fake site.

I checked it was legit laughed my pants off and have never once considered it as a serious prospect since.

It just can't be on the level when full finished AAA games cost a quarter of the price of their lower tier ships. As for the higher tier ones that's just bonkers.

The $37,000 dollar ship pack is so far beyond crazy I'm baffled that the feds haven't kicked the door in already.

Video games cost about $60, $100 with loads of extras.
There’ll always be pigeons to pluck.

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