Upgrading from a 980ti

I thought the same up to very recently, but in the past few occasions I noticed the VRAM usage creeping up to 8GB while playing Elite in VR, so that 11GB could come handy - also, the 1080ti has a slightly higher memory bandwidth. Having said that, I'd probably also take the 2080.

I honestly haven't checked lately, but that is a decent sign, and they have been released from a lot of RAM restrictions when dropping 32bit support.

An increase in VRAM usage could also explain how many find the recent update improves performance while others experience the clear opposite.
 
Done some more playing and indeed.
over time Vram usage hits 9GB+ but this honestly smacks a bit of a leak or bug since it increases very gradually after the usual 6gb and performance drops, especially in around planet surfaces.
going back to cruise didn't seem to release any either, and when I tried to drop to menubi had one of the oculus dash related frezzes that took the whole game with it.

Hmmm.
 
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I went from a GTX970 and FX8350 to a GTX1070ti and Ryzen 5 1600. The difference is incredible and I didn't have to cut off any limbs for medical research. :)
 
I went from a GTX970 and FX8350 to a GTX1070ti and Ryzen 5 1600. The difference is incredible and I didn't have to cut off any limbs for medical research. :)

I buy most of my hardware with current and future booze budget, it's $60 bucks for a bottle of whisky here, regardless of quality.

It has probably saved me a lot of trouble..
 
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I buy most of my hardware with current and future booze budget, it's $60 bucks for a bottle of whisky here, regardless of quality.

It has probably saved me a lot of trouble..

Lol, where do you live that a bottle of whiskey is $60. Alaska? You might should change to beer, it's about $7.50 for a 12-pack where I live (Middish U.S.). I don't drink Whiskey anymore but I think a bottle of Jack is about $15 bucks. Even a bottle of Cuervo gold is $20 something if you want to get completely tossed lol.
I try to stick to straight Milk lately. Makes me run faster :)
 
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Taking advantage of the thread, I have a 970 right now and I'm considering a Gigabyte RTX 2080 (simple one, no founders or Ti) with 16 gigs of DDR3 RAM and an i7 4970 (normal not "k" or anything). Do you guys it would be a good idea? I've heard that the i7 4970 could bottleneck the RTX 2080 if I don't overclock it, but to be honest I don't want to mess with overclocking as I have no idea of what I could be doing and the 4970 is not made for it. The US dollar keeps plumiting as long as the government shutdown continues so that reduces my import costs but that can't (and shouldn't) last long so I think I must act quick.
 
as long as the government shutdown continues

This has put my upgrade plans on hold :-[

I work for a start up company and we are expecting a round of investment. This is now on hold due to the US government shutdown as the committee to approve it is shut, so bonus's have been postponed.
So overnight my political views have remarkably reversed.
 
I agree with Tor that your 4970 will bottleneck a 2080. And overclocking wouldn't solve it. However, with that said you would still see a good performance gain over the gtx970.
As I said earlier I just upgraded to a 1070ti and a ryzen 5 1600. I would have liked to go with a Ryzen 7 2700x but did not have the extra coinage to make the full leap. That will happen in a few months. My 1600 was even bottlenecking the 1070ti, until I overclocked it to 3800mhz. Now they are happy together lol. To give you some numbers, with the 970 and FX8350 I was at 64.2 FPS average and a score of 2688 on Unigine Valley. Min max was 18.3/120.3. After the upgrade those numbers were 74.4 average with a score of 3112, min/max of 22.9/156.5.
Performance increased but not as much as I had hoped.
However, when I OC'd the Ryzen to 3800mhz (on water-cooling), my numbers jumped to 94.8 average, score of 3968 and min/max of 31/169.9.
A ton faster but my processor is still bottlenecking my vid card. That will be solved when I get a Ryzen 7 2700x.
So Binak, if you have the money to buy a 2080 it would definitely improve your system performance considerably over a GTX970, but you would want to plan for a future upgrade on the processor, and your max path with what you have would be the Ryzen 7 2700X i'm eye-balling.
I'm thinking you would be better off to use the money to get a new motherboard, low end threadripper and like a 1080ti. That would set you back a few hundred more than just a 2080 but you would be way ahead of the upgrade curve. But if you currently have DDR3 (I'm guessing) you would also have to buy new RAM (DDR4). So I suppose what you need to think about is if you want a video card your system can't take full advantage of until you upgrade the MB and processor/RAM to a Socket sTR4 motherboard and something like https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113457. Combine that with a 1080ti.
A 2080 will cost about ~$700-$750. New MB, a threadripper, 16GB Gskill DDR4 ram would be about the same, then toss in another $650 ish for a better vid card. I don't know what import duties you have to pay though. I bought my 1070TI used off of EBAY from a miner for $300. He had 4 of them never OC'd but with about 6 months 24/7 usage. I've had it now for a couple months and it still works great.
The jist is you will have to upgrade both eventually to get the full performance so I suppose you just need to determine which upgrade to do first.
 
I agree with Tor that your 4970 will bottleneck a 2080. And overclocking wouldn't solve it. However, with that said you would still see a good performance gain over the gtx970.
As I said earlier I just upgraded to a 1070ti and a ryzen 5 1600. I would have liked to go with a Ryzen 7 2700x but did not have the extra coinage to make the full leap. That will happen in a few months. My 1600 was even bottlenecking the 1070ti, until I overclocked it to 3800mhz. Now they are happy together lol. To give you some numbers, with the 970 and FX8350 I was at 64.2 FPS average and a score of 2688 on Unigine Valley. Min max was 18.3/120.3. After the upgrade those numbers were 74.4 average with a score of 3112, min/max of 22.9/156.5.
Performance increased but not as much as I had hoped.
However, when I OC'd the Ryzen to 3800mhz (on water-cooling), my numbers jumped to 94.8 average, score of 3968 and min/max of 31/169.9.
A ton faster but my processor is still bottlenecking my vid card. That will be solved when I get a Ryzen 7 2700x.
So Binak, if you have the money to buy a 2080 it would definitely improve your system performance considerably over a GTX970, but you would want to plan for a future upgrade on the processor, and your max path with what you have would be the Ryzen 7 2700X i'm eye-balling.
I'm thinking you would be better off to use the money to get a new motherboard, low end threadripper and like a 1080ti. That would set you back a few hundred more than just a 2080 but you would be way ahead of the upgrade curve. But if you currently have DDR3 (I'm guessing) you would also have to buy new RAM (DDR4). So I suppose what you need to think about is if you want a video card your system can't take full advantage of until you upgrade the MB and processor/RAM to a Socket sTR4 motherboard and something like https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113457. Combine that with a 1080ti.
A 2080 will cost about ~$700-$750. New MB, a threadripper, 16GB Gskill DDR4 ram would be about the same, then toss in another $650 ish for a better vid card. I don't know what import duties you have to pay though. I bought my 1070TI used off of EBAY from a miner for $300. He had 4 of them never OC'd but with about 6 months 24/7 usage. I've had it now for a couple months and it still works great.
The jist is you will have to upgrade both eventually to get the full performance so I suppose you just need to determine which upgrade to do first.

Wow, that's a good answer, more than I was expecting, thanks.

Hmmm... if that the case then it would be better to change the whole rig in one go, I mean, I'll need to change procesor, motherboard, DDR ram, Video Card and power unit. I'll be left only with the keyboard and mouse and those need change too.

So I think that I'll save up until the middle of the year, build a new rig and sell the current one, I think it is still a solid one even if it is not top of the line but I'm sure I'll have at least one buyer, and who knows? Maybe I'll catch some sales, the currency rate will keep stable and this whole crypto madness will lay down a little.

Thanks again for your answer.
 
You bet. I think that is a solid plan. You are correct that the crypto mining craze is finally dying down. I may be a little long winded sometimes but some folks like to listen lol. I've been building computers for 30 years.
I would say by mid year you could build a smoking fast system for a little less than $1,000 IF you shop around and find some good deals on certain parts.
That would be not including a new case, keyboard, mouse and monitor. Any of that will obviously tack on more cost.
I built my father a nice machine with my GTX970, FX8350 and MB and RAM for less than $400. Including a new case, PS, air cooler.
My new build cost me a smidge under $600 with my existing case, fans, water cooler, monitor, keyboard, mouse and does Elite in VR as good as any I have seen.
So for the $1g range you could certainly build a beast of a system if you go about it right.
 
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