Upset about the recent Mobius infiltration? Do something about it.

[Cosmos]

Another interesting fact for players who don't know me in game or the whole history which goes way back is this. Way back when during early development I always thought Mobius, the forum guy and player, was pretty cool. He was the dude who did a load of cool signatures and photoshops for people and had a great rep because of his contribution. I often saw him ni game but never opened fire upon him because of all that. Obviously some did, but there was a distinct moment in game where I saw him outside a station ( we are talking pre 1.0 and betish time) with a bounty on him.

I opened fire, all things being totally legit, but stopped and sent him a message in a friendly fashion as he went for the escape. I could have killled him but decided not to. He left and afterwards I sent a friend request. Nothing came back. Shortly after the whole PvE only stuff began and I whilst my own actino there probably didnt result in all of this I can't help but think that something was severely off. Its one of the reasons I take a lot of issue with the whole PvE only crew and the group as a whole.

We can all do what we want in game and decide who we play with but it just struck me that the response or lack of wasn't rational. hehe.. I've played this game since the earliest days and never felt I've been 'griefed'.. I just accept what the game and players throw at me, players being far more dynamic and interesting that the present PvE game imo. But you know most of the time bar being around a CG I never really get interdicted by players.. Its really why I dont get the whole thing, and by making a big issue of it, like Mobius has done, I just think it draws resentment and attracts the activity that SDC has done of late..

A little bit of history and perspective at the same time.

 

[fantasmic]

The reason I joined Mobius is so I can play the game the way I really want to play it, and not have my projects and progress disrupted by the antics of pointless jerks. So, what sense would it make to disrupt MYSELF from doing the things I want to do? "Helping the terrorists win" and all that.

Because cooperation in the face of a common enemy?

 

[BlackOps]

I'm in game. I checked their prohibited goods but it only seems to be toxic waste, which I can't buy anywhere. Is it selling them goods they don't want that undermines them?

Yes, that was the experiment that was done to kill influence. The method was to sell scrap that had no demand at the station. Biowaste fits that definition, but there might be other, more effective scrap out there. I'm not an expert in the BGS, but I like to read a lot.

 

[[VR]tailgunner30uk]

You know its just as well I'm off exploring and not so inclined but I often machinate over many, many things.. I could, if I had a large enough crew turn Mobius' life a complete nightmare within the game.. Just as well I don't act upon all these evil thoughts I have.

I have a one word answer to this. IF!

 

[Wavey]

There are cmdrs that openly admit they are in SDC in Mobius ,they are not kicked as far as i know ,as they have not broken rules ,some SDC did and got banned

 

[Commander Debic]

You are not defending yourselves. You already did that when they were booted from the server. Now you are just giving yourselves and solo players a bad name.

There are WAY more of you guys then are griefers. There is no way they could defeat you guys if you were organized and showed up in numbers. So when you all hide together in solo, it's kind of sad. It's like Hilter being allowed to take over Europe and the rest of the world fights back with trade sanctions.

Is that really the best you've got?

They opened the door by joining our group then breaking our rules of no PVP action in the PVE group unless under the one exception that is well documented. We are going to use PVE mechanics to show it isn't a wise move to act as they did. We are PVE players and we will be playing our accepted form of play by using PVE. If we went to Open and as that seems to have become PVP group without the meaningful punishments that DB mooted so long ago, we would need to play the PVP game. So as you seem to have trouble understanding the principle rules of our group, we are PVE players in a PVE group and we are going to PVE play in their home system. It is nothing to do with skills against PVP players or being scared or fearful, it is us who cannot be bothered with PVP play explaining in the only way we know how that if you want PVP play go play elsewhere but not in the group we are in.
And forget the "H" word you not only offend me in the UK, you probably upset a lot of German players too.

 

[KaizoMK]

Yes, that was the experiment that was done to kill influence. The method was to sell scrap that had no demand at the station. Biowaste fits that definition, but there might be other, more effective scrap out there. I'm not an expert in the BGS, but I like to read a lot.

Excellent. I'll get right on that, I think I'll do a mix of smuggling and hunting.

 

[bitstorm]

I'm in game. I checked their prohibited goods but it only seems to be toxic waste, which I can't buy anywhere. Is it selling them goods they don't want that undermines them?

Op said biowaste works. I have no idea, I don;t know BGS.

 

[DragoonKnight]

Care to share your CMDR name? And where to find you?

His CMDR name is [redacted] and he has been spotted at the current CG, Uibuth system (D'arrest station), flying a suicide eagle.

 

[Muad'Dib [POZ]]

+1 Rep... nice Idea

You can call this an Unofficial Community Goal [h=1][/h]

 

[{SAS}Stalker]

You forgot to call every one in Mobius a bunch of whining little kitties, and that attacking players in Mobius is an entirely legitimate form of gameplay as you're will to pay the penalty of getting banned because it's just sooo worth the fun and that the only griefing going on is from commanders too pathetic to fight and too stupid to run away. The only griefers are combat loggers all else is fair play. Bite me in Wofberg kitties.

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Influence change is still capped at 5% a day right?
Pity.

Its why despite the BGS and minor factions being an interesting concept, the vast majority of people gave up caring months ago.

 

[Commander Debic]

I do wonder ,Mobius was just formed for those that didnt want enforced pvp and it grew and grew.Why dont those that love pvp do the same ? 20k in Mobius ,surely there are at least a few that could make a pvp group ? or is pvp just a few hundred people .....I see so many posts saying pvp is the best but there are no private groups ,or have i missed them ?

There was one in the early days of Mobius. I cannot remember their name now but I think it was something to do with Test in the name. They grew for a while but then faded out. Seems like PVP players don't have the staying power of PVE 'ers.

 

[Mohrgan]

Its why despite the BGS and minor factions being an interesting concept, the vast majority of people gave up caring months ago.

Then, this imitative should not adversely affect the puppy clutch, and give the PvE'ers some time to bond. That's a Win-Win if I ever heard one.

 

[KaizoMK]

Its why despite the BGS and minor factions being an interesting concept, the vast majority of people gave up caring months ago.

It is sort of a lame and arbitrary limitation, but I'm sure it's to prevent, say, 20,000 players from ruling the universe. That said, it will inevitably decrease by 5% every day unless something breaks.

 

[Ziljan]

I totally agree...I keep finding myself gigling thinking this small group called the SDC thought they could pick on the largest player group in the game ....20,000 players...and think not one of them would come up with a solution for this...within the game rules..of course.

What's funny (sad?) is that these 20,000 players are "fighting" back against maybe a dozen players by "grouping" in solo mode. It's like that picture of the elephant jumping onto a chair and squeeling because they saw a mouse.

 

[Teldja]

Well take a look back in the thread to why I have issue with solo and pg.. I'm just for an Open game where there are no places to hide.. You never know, I could come to your rescue. I've often felt that solo and pg remove many gameplay opportunities. I suppose I want more from the game than grinding the PvE.. Its not that great imo and despite all of this and what SDC have done, here we are having some interesting political tension. I just think it makes the game more interesting..

"I'm just for an Open game where there are no places to hide.."
Hiding from what ? What this has to do with people who don't want to play PvP, in the first place ?
Is it so hard to understand that others peoples just don't like to play in a PvP mode and because of that they won't play it no matter what ?

"I've often felt that solo and pg remove many gameplay opportunities."
Please , elaborate. What kind of gameplay opportunities do you expect to have from peoples who don't want to have anything to do with PvP in Open Play mode ?


"I suppose I want more from the game than grinding the PvE.."
Great, it is understandable but what this has to do with peoples who do not want PvP interaction ?


"Its not that great imo and despite all of this and what SDC have done, here we are having some interesting political tension. I just think it makes the game more interesting.. "
What political tension are you talking about ? Is there a political debate or something ?
What makes the game more interesting in that case ?

 

[KaizoMK]

There was one in the early days of Mobius. I cannot remember their name now but I think it was something to do with Test in the name. They grew for a while but then faded out. Seems like PVP players don't have the staying power of PVE 'ers.

Also things like CQC, and the fact that some players just want to fight in unbalanced situations.

 

[Riktar]

And then we log back into mobius for a little more "therapy"...

You think we don't have other members with account(s) in mobius?

I for one will be returning soon.

Until then...

stay salty.

The thing is,,, the number of times you can do that is limited by being kicked out. The number of times your group can be undermined is endless,,,,,

As long as it's withing the "rules" of the game of course,,,,,,

You are not defending yourselves. You already did that when they were booted from the server. Now you are just giving yourselves and solo players a bad name.

There are WAY more of you guys then are griefers. There is no way they could defeat you guys if you were organized and showed up in numbers. So when you all hide together in solo, it's kind of sad. It's like Hilter being allowed to take over Europe and the rest of the world fights back with trade sanctions.

Is that really the best you've got?

2 wrongs don't make a right. One cowardly attack isn't balanced by another malicious act of cowardice. Sorry. I think those dog people should be punished. But not by soloists. That shouldn't even be possible. It's equally as wrong as a PVP group invading a PVE server.

If you guys really believe that this kind of organised solo revenge is OK, then you are being hypocritical by saying PVP infiltration of Möbius is wrong. They are either both wrong or they are both OK.

And yet their group still insists on "going back" to Mobius.

I am all for reasonable solutions,,,,

But if SDC is going to continue to "wag" their deeds about publicly,,,,,,,,

Well, here you go,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[KaizoMK]

What's funny (sad?) is that these 20,000 players are "fighting" back against maybe a dozen players by "grouping" in solo mode. It's like that picture of the elephant jumping onto a chair and squeeling because they saw a mouse.

It's more like a small human stabbing a tamed elephant, and the elephant turning around and DESTROYING that human.

Seriously, I don't know where y'all are getting your analogies but they're not logical.

 

[Lemonhoko]

What's funny (sad?) is that these 20,000 players are "fighting" back against maybe a dozen players by "grouping" in solo mode. It's like that picture of the elephant jumping onto a chair and squeeling because they saw a mouse.

I picture it more like the elephant jumping on the mouse because it got bit on the foot...Darwrin will kick in sooner or later and a smart mouse will be born.