UY Scuti

Snafu Manchu

Snafu Manchu
Soon(TM) said:
Has anyone been to see UY Scuti?

It's supposedly the largest known star we've discovered?

I keep meaning to see if I can find it but I'm way over in empire space!

I was wondering if its to scale, it should be stupid huge, makes our sun look like a ping pong ball!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_known_stars
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Don't remember if I've been to it or not, but most of the super massive stars I have visited do not look any bigger when you are up close. The only way I've really noticed differences in size is from a distance or how fast you can skim around.
 

ShadowWolf Kell

ShadowWolf Kell
Snafu Manchu said:
Don't remember if I've been to it or not, but most of the super massive stars I have visited do not look any bigger when you are up close. The only way I've really noticed differences in size is from a distance or how fast you can skim around.
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When you fly out to 2000ls or so, you start to see just how massive they are.
 

askavir

askavir
I think that the largest ingame supergiant is VY Canis Majoris. I've been to nearly all the ingame supergiants (most of them are less than 6k light years away from the bubble, many less than 2k).

Betelgeuse also impresse me a lot, mainly because it has planets around it making it easier to have a sense of the massive scale. The nearest planet is sometimes torched by solar flare, and the ships takes heat damage while around that planet.

Below 2 pics, one from Betelgeuse, other from VY Canis Majoris, both taken at freaking 30 thousand lightseconds away from the stars. It takes some time travelling in supercruise to get that far from the stars, yet...


First, Betelgeuse:

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And this is VY Canis Majoris, at same distance:

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Yep, those are some massive fireballs over there...
 
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Vandaahl

Vandaahl
OfftheRails said:
In fact nothing above VY Canis came up for me.
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VV Cephei, RW Cephei and VX Sagittarii (as HIP 88838) are there, and are bigger than Canis Majoris :)

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KY Cygni, HR 5171, PZ Cassiopeiae (as HIP 117078), RT Carinae (as HD 303310) are there as well. Those are smaller than Canis Majoris but still bigger than Betelgeuse.

WOH G64 is bigger than Canis Majoris, but is part of the Large Magellanic Cloud. UY Scuti, NML Cygni and Westerlund 1-26 are also bigger, but I can't find them by any designation.
 
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askavir

askavir
OfftheRails said:
How could you possibly know that?

Awesome pictures too.
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I've taken that list from wikipedia, plus the one I linked below, and searched for them all in the galaxy map, and then travelled to the ones that are there.

http://space.about.com/od/stars/tp/The-Top-10-Largest-Stars.htm

But fair point, I don't know if FD put some surprise supergiants bigger than the ones on those lists, even astronomers don't agree on their real sizes.

Two of the Cephei supergiants are reasonably close together, and you will find some very cool nebulas on the way, and others close to them.

Betelgeuse is very close, on the way to the Barnards Loop. Not quite the biggest of all, but has planets around it making it easier to sense the enormous scale. And being very close, its a great starting point for the "galaxy's biggest monster stars tour". There's also some very cool nebulas near, Orion, Witch Head, Barnards Loop and Horse Head.
 
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Ian Phillips

Volunteer Moderator
Ian Phillips
askavir said:
Holy damn!

Please remember where it was :)
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It is at the start of the Sagittarius Arm. If you aim for Blau Eur Li-R C18-41 you will see a line of blue/white stars in the sky, it's an obvious feature with lots of neutron stars to scan!

Closer up it looks like this http://imgur.com/a/PVKf0#1
(the photo is the second image in the gallery, called 'a few steps out the door')

They have all been scanned (multiple times :)) but it is in one of those systems.
 
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Von Shadow

Von Shadow
Snafu Manchu said:
Don't remember if I've been to it or not, but most of the super massive stars I have visited do not look any bigger when you are up close. The only way I've really noticed differences in size is from a distance or how fast you can skim around.
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Of course they don't look any bigger .... just look at the distance you're at vs a regular star....
Get to VY Canis Majoris at about 3000Ls distance and see how much difference going full speed towards/away/around the star makes....
THen fly to another normal system and fly 3000Ls away from it and see the difference

For comparison, If VY Canis Majoris visited the Sol system and replaced the Sun, then its outer edge would be somewhere in the vicinity of Jupiter!
 

Snafu Manchu

Snafu Manchu
ShadowWolf Kell said:
When you fly out to 2000ls or so, you start to see just how massive they are.
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It's even better if they have smaller binaries. Then it is really noticable.

Ian Phillips said:
The biggest star I have found so far was a blue/white supergiant. I could scan it from over 56,000 Ls away!
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This makes me want to buy another asp and go back out exploring again. Come on Horizons..............................................................
 

Snafu Manchu

Snafu Manchu
ShadowWolf Kell said:
When you fly out to 2000ls or so, you start to see just how massive they are.
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Of course they don't look any bigger .... just look at the distance you're at vs a regular star....
Get to VY Canis Majoris at about 3000Ls distance and see how much difference going full speed towards/away/around the star makes....
THen fly to another normal system and fly 3000Ls away from it and see the difference

For comparison, If VY Canis Majoris visited the Sol system and replaced the Sun, then its outer edge would be somewhere in the vicinity of Jupiter!
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Yeah this. But, you know I was kind of hoping for an epic wall fire up close that seemed to stretch out forever when I encountered my first giant.

From a distance though they look awesome, and even better if there are binary pairs. If you have a mix of large and small that are well spaced out, you can get interesting snaps like this :D
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askavir

askavir
As for the sense of scale, its all a matter of perspective.

The reason why even the largest behemoth stars out there appear the same as regular stars, its because the ship always drops out of hyperjump at a safe distance from the star.

The drop at VY Canis Majoris is at around 6000ls from the star. 6000ls is much further out than most stations than most players are even willing to travel to in supercruise.

Best way to have an actual feeling of the gargantuan size of such stars, is by reference points around them, or by travelling far away from them.

Betelgeuse is not quite the biggest out there, its less than half the size of VY Canis Majoris, but unlike most of the largest supergiants, it has several planets around it.

This is the view of Betelgeuse from the closest planet. It hopefully provides the "wall of fire" view people are looking for:

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Now from the second planet, still huge:

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