[VIDEO] CRAZY Encounter - Asp vs. Vette in Atmospheric Combat
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While it is within the rules of the game... let's turn this around to the real world again - members of a certain radicalized cult feel they are at war with everyone who is not a member of their cult. That is all the justification they need to hijack aircraft and fly them into buildings, set off bombs in public places, murder women and children, drown people in cages, cut heads off of journalists, and commit any number of heinous acts of barbaric cowardice. It's within the rules of their said game.
So you refuse to pay taxes as well? Again, volumes spoken here.
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Now don't mistake me - there is a place for PVP in Elite. Ambushes, traps, overwhelming opposition - yes, absolutely have their place.
But what we've seen here is not a glorious ambush, nor clever trap or even a show of overwhelming force.
It's as macho a bear-baiting or a captive hunt. It's a 98-pound weakling having a body-builder hold someone so they can beat them down with a baseball bat.
And they could still be playing lovable, inoffensive, carebears in an Elite: Dangerous private group.
The real-world is one setting. The in-game setting of Elite is another.
I that a rhetorical question?
Unless you count sales tax, which is technically paid by the seller, I do not pay taxes. Taxation is blatant extortion, no different from any other protection racket, except in scope.
Volumes presumed.
You're falsely conflating the player with their character. You may as well not like Top Gun's Maverick because Tom Cruise is a Scientologist, or hate the GM of a tabletop RPG because the villain he or she plays does bad things.
It's character vs. character.
True, though a person's nature tends to show through the characters they play. QED.
I don't speak rhetorical, so no, that's actually a question, and no, sales tax is not paid by the seller, it's paid by the buyer. It's collected by the seller, who then turns over what has been collected, less a percentage for acting as a tax agent. Since you state you do not pay any other taxes, I must surmise that you are either unemployed, employed by a 501(c)(3) entity, or simply evading taxes. Tax evasion worked out pretty well for folks like Willie Nelson and Al Capone.
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QED? How? where is the demonstration? How do you define "a person's nature" and where have you demonstrated that it shows through the characters they play?
I play the most 'white knighty' character you are likely to find in E|D. One of my major in-game goals is to never be fined, or face a bounty. I haven't been able to sustain that, but I forgive myself and get back to work. This doesn't mean I'm like that in RL, and I never suppose how other's act in a game, expose their RL personalities. Ideas like that lead to nothing but trouble. I deas like that are the epitome of 'Junk Psychology'.
Even with my in-game persona, I can easily see how playing in a more criminal vein could be enjoyable. I think your (@ IndigoWyrd) assertions might tell us something about your RL personality. What do you think your views and presentation tell us about you, if we allowed that sussing out a person's personality can be deduced from snippets of text?
Even with my in-game persona, I can easily see how playing in a more criminal vein could be enjoyable. I think your (@ IndigoWyrd) assertions might tell us something about your RL personality. What do you think your views and presentation tell us about you, if we allowed that sussing out a person's personality can be deduced from snippets of text?
Watch someone playing with a VR headset. All space combat is pretty boring, because traditionally, you can only see what's going on in the 40 degree arc in front of the player's ship. VR brings combat to life, cos you can see where the pilot is looking and what the opponent is doing when you normally wouldn't be able to.
Well that was the only point that I had, It's just a game and supposed to be for fun. It has no real life consequences.
You are right though.
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You're not really role players though. You use Pack Hounds which are non imperial weapons, you use Asp Explorers which are neutral ships (meaning you're not flying the Imperial colours unlike your target.) All I saw was griefing tactics by two players taking advantage of a AI problem with player ships.
You deserved to be combat logged for your actions and I am pleased he saved his corvette.
I am a Imperial commander, I hold the rank of King and no federal ranks, my alliance standing is in the negative by -30. I fly predominately the Clipper or Courier, but I don't do power play due to the merit grind it takes and the damage that I sustained to my reputation within the Empire.
Wonder if OP was looking for all this reaction. You know, stir things up?
Or too convinced of his own sweet smell and sparkling brilliance that it matters not that he is largely and repeatedly judged a bottom feeder.
The RP is so strong, the art so canned, the self proclamation so febrile, the footage so dull and the achievement so low, that it beggars belief.
Oh, and spelling and grammar policing? Really OP. Poor show.
Or too convinced of his own sweet smell and sparkling brilliance that it matters not that he is largely and repeatedly judged a bottom feeder.
The RP is so strong, the art so canned, the self proclamation so febrile, the footage so dull and the achievement so low, that it beggars belief.
Oh, and spelling and grammar policing? Really OP. Poor show.
So I just watched the video. Here's a couple of thoughts: CMDR Nelrox is a nasty little clogger who is welcome to the KOS. A Corvette clogging on a pair of Asp's...for shame.
With that said, Nightshady, if you'd like to be taken more seriously as a "skilled" PvPer in the future and perhaps actually stand a chance at NOT being slaughtered in the PvP League where skill actually counts, I'd recommend dropping the cheese and focusing on legit PvP.
Just my 2 cents.
With that said, Nightshady, if you'd like to be taken more seriously as a "skilled" PvPer in the future and perhaps actually stand a chance at NOT being slaughtered in the PvP League where skill actually counts, I'd recommend dropping the cheese and focusing on legit PvP.
Just my 2 cents.
Well said jason , i cringed when i saw the all cannon loadout. Cheesed to the max with heat mods i guess. There isnt really a skill requirement when the cannons fry the ships the same way packhounds did a few patches back.
To be fair to the man, he had to grind twice to get that cheese.
I don't think I said anything against that.
The implication was that if someone does enjoy blowing up others, that's completely up to them.
You have no god-given right to tell others how they should have fun, or ethically denounce them for their method of fun, within a game. Half the teenagers out there are spending their lives in mass virtual murder sprees within CoD or whatever's hot at the time, and that's far more realistic and disturbing than getting enjoyment out of firing fictional lasers at fictional ships.
Note I also didn't praise OP for an exhilarating video. I've seen more interesting PvP fights from noobs that got into a ruck and uploaded it. But still, point stands, though OP was inane as a PvP vid, that doesn't make it an invalid playstyle. Whether you like it or not couldn't matter less.
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The significant difference being that blasting hordes of NPCs in an FPS doesn't affect any other human beings and if you're playing an online FPS then everybody who's there has the same objective and so nobody has any reason to get salty when they get killed.
It's not quite the same situation in ED, where one person might be minding their own business when they meet up with another player who is intent on combat.
Sure, we all know that combat is a possibility when we play ED but that doesn't absolve people of criticism over their methods or motivations when engaging in combat.
Sorry, doesn't change a thing. It's still a valid playstyle as confirmed by FD, so your criticism is still nothing more than a personal ethical judgement of another person.
There are two game modes and Mobius to populate if this doesn't please you. I would sooner say that calling people out on doing what they want, in the one game mode of three where it's allowed/justified, is actually on the selfish side. You said yourself you know the combat is a possibility - so why complain if it happens when your guard is down?
Learning to handle risk during a playstyle is part of the beauty of Open, and implications that random attacks shouldn't be allowed are demeaning to players like me that - for instance - stick HRPs onto traders, specifically so we're prepared for the random risks of Open. It's far more "immersive" than building a stripped down profit-o-matic and cycling between two stations for days unimpeded.
If you aren't prepared to do the same to survive, don't be in a game mode where - as you say - you might expect such an attack to happen.
Now I would agree the playstyle has next to no risk or consequence, but...that's what karma/C&P is supposed to look at.
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It seems a bit hypocritical to say it's "selfish" to be critical of others and then, in the next sentence, suggest that those who don't like the free-for-all shouldn't play in open.
Personally, I enjoy the free-for-all and I'm also going to carry on voicing an opinion about the stuff that happens there too.
If you don't like that, go play CQC. [up]