[VIDEO] Pheyes and Z4.MAFIA fight! Vulture vs Asp!

[z4.MAFIA]

Yeah, they make it even more interesting. Without them - pop the shield - there you go. GG. With them - there is extra element added - timing them, so that opponent won't have time or opportunity to successfully blast them or ram them. Extra layer of fun for PVP players. Are you a PVP player by any chance, Liqua?

Z4.Mafia, hats off to the fight. One of the best I've seen in ED yet. I think I even remember seeing commander Pheyes somewhere on top of the notorious pirate list.

Anyway, keep it up.

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[GluttonyFang]

Lol... all that manual aiming, too much skill.

 

[Vasious]

Very Cool

 

[z4.MAFIA]

Z4.MAFIA, thanks for showing just how good the Asp can be in a fight. I get a fair amount of derision for flying mine, people call it the flying anvil and make cracks about it sucking in combat but I've always maintained that they just don't understand the ship. Thanks for proving me right.

You're welcome Guidebot!

 

[sovereign101010]

Pulse Lasers on your Vulture don't make a very big impact on shields sure they are cheap on energy conservation now if you had a pair of Class 3 burst lasers on your vulture you would do some serious damage to his shields and hull but takes more energy for two of them and gives you a bunch of shots before weapon recharge to use but you would have to make a sacrifice on Shield Cells since they are very energy hungry but on the downside they would be problem in terms of heat generated when they are charging your shields quickly if at the same time your are frantically firing your weapons that have a higher thermal load that end up possibly damaging a bunch of modules or maybe use shield boosters. While the guy that favors Cannons could mount four Burst lasers on his Small hard points and reserve heavy weapons of his choice on the medium hard points of his Asp and do some serious damage without running out of ammo just saying.

 

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[Kondensat]

pheyes did the same mistake over and over again......getting too close

but nice fight
and still sad, that its all about SCBs

 

[I and I Redeye]

I don't think it was the SCB's this time. It was pilot flying that won this fight. Pheyes regened his shields quite well at one point but got sucked into doing fly past after fly past and Z4 timed his canon shots. I can see him keeping a canon shot for that fly past and getting max impact, that hurt Pheyes and he didn't need to entertain that and made it difficult for him to keep shield up. He could have made Z4 waste his SCB's and kept his shields up and gone for the kill at the right moment. However that is a long game of patience and confidence, those tank/regen builds have always been a pain, that in most mmo's they are avoided 1v1.

Good flying Z4, always in position 1st with wpns on target. Nice use of FA on/off. After 1 min you settled and I think you knew you had the fight at that point and just saved those damage shots at the right time rather than just spam spam spam.

 

[CYB34]

and still sad, that its all about SCBs

It was about power distribution and movement.
I met players with SCBs who were flying worse than NPCs.

If you can stick on a target at 400m, the SCBs are only prolonging the inevitable by a minute or two.

 

[Pheyes]

Yeah I could have played the long game and just waited until he ran out of ammo but where is the fun in that and he could have just jumped out at anytime as the vulture does not mass lock a Asp, it was all in good fun.

 

[duanedibly]

Vulture pilot: You put 0 pips in shields against a 6 cannon asp - you deserved to lose after a decision like that. The vulture has almost 50% better shielding than an asp. Use it.

Asp pilot: Good job using your asp's power advantage to its fullest capacity. Cannons have not awful single shot damage against shields, but do you not feel that a set up like that might benefit from a multicannon or two in your small hardpoints?

Are you brain dead? The vulture is simply outmatched in this config. the vulture had to run pips to engines or its a sitting duck, you must be a horrible pilot if you think that pips in shields here would have helped.

Its a very gimmickey build, I could build an asp that could destroy him quite easily, but the big advantage "multi-roll" ships have over combat ships is the internals. Its hard to beat someone with comparably infinite shields, in terms of raw damage dealt, the vulture won, in terms of raw damage avoided, the vulture won, but the vulture cant deal with the staying power of an asp that can run 4 pips to shields, 4 boosters and with 4-5 cell banks.
Is it good piloting? I dont know, I know pheyes is a good pilot but I also know that cannons right now do too much damage for the power they consume from the capacitor. the ship build is definitely a no skill one, not to say the pilot didnt have skill.
I can run an anaconda with all cannons on all hardpoints with 1 pip to weapons, which is total horse considering the damage they do to shields (and even more to hull) I probably wont get balanced in 1.3 as its not a big problem in pve, and its not a big problem in wing on wing combat either as 2 decent pilots (yes i saw hornet and spilmer have a crack, I said decent pilots) can easily burst down an asps shields even with 4 pips. FA off piloting (as in your target has FA off) means easier shots to get off like C4 plasmas which obviously do great burst damage, I am also surprised that nobody is running like a 4x Chaff build to fight you or something like that...yeah its gimmicky but so is 4-5 cell banks.

 

[I and I Redeye]

Yeah I could have played the long game and just waited until he ran out of ammo but where is the fun in that and he could have just jumped out at anytime as the vulture does not mass lock a Asp, it was all in good fun.

I think his asp loadout is alot more expensive than yours. It was always going to be hard against an asp with a combat build. I don't think the vulture is that tuff tbh. It has decent zerker power and good defence but when someone can bring a loadout thats twice as expensive, your always gonna be under serious pressure.

 

[z4.MAFIA]

Yeah I could have played the long game and just waited until he ran out of ammo but where is the fun in that and he could have just jumped out at anytime as the vulture does not mass lock a Asp, it was all in good fun.

Absolutely, it was all in good fun! In fact, the entire night was a blast.

 

[Kyokushin]

Good game.
I always said ASP is good in heavy fighter role and can win with vultures.

 

[CMDR Arni Sigurdsson]

In the end it was all about who ran out out of shield cell banks first,
Vulture with 5 internal slots and ASP with 7, the outcome obvious.