VR for Elite Dangerous is great, but not practical

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SectorZero

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I love VR. I think everyone has to try ED in VR once. But after playing for a few sessions you start to realize that Track-IR may offer a more practical experience. Sometimes, there isn’t much to do when you have the scuba gear on between systems. And when you need to look something up online, you have to rip all of that off. Track-IR, I just need to glance down at my tablet.

Again, I think VR is great but unless there is something that provides a compelling advantage I think Track-IR is a more practical experience.

Am I missing something in the VR experience that I haven’t considered? Would love to hear your thoughts.
 

CMDR M Kozak

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SectorZero said:
I love VR. I think everyone has to try ED in VR once. But after playing for a few sessions you start to realize that Track-IR may offer a more practical experience. Sometimes, there isn’t much to do when you have the scuba gear on between systems. And when you need to look something up online, you have to rip all of that off. Track-IR, I just need to glance down at my tablet.

Again, I think VR is great but unless there is something that provides a compelling advantage I think Track-IR is a more practical experience.

Am I missing something in the VR experience that I haven’t considered? Would love to hear your thoughts.
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VR is about the experience. About being in a spaceship... not sitting at a desk reading websites.
Hard to understand, I know - but even harder to explain with other words but experience.

Im also not a min/max player, so I dont need external websites during Play in a manner that exceeds what virtuel desktop can provide.
 

[VR] Enexemander

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You are missing Virtual Desktop options. In VR, I can place a window anywhere, at any size in the cockpit. In game it looks like a monitor set into the dash. Depending on the ship (if it doesn't have any open top canopy), I will put it on the ceiling (and huge) if I want to use it.

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I've long ago memorized all my buttons on my hotas and I'm a touch typist. I don't need to see those tools to use them.
VR is the difference between seeing a movie of flying a ship and actually flying a ship. Once you get your settings dialed in, there's not much of a comparison. It's a different thing.
 

[VR] Orodruin

[VR] Orodruin
SectorZero said:
And when you need to look something up online, you have to rip all of that off
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No you don't. There are multiple solutions (depending on VR software) that allow you to project an external window into your VR environment. I use it all the time. I look things up while still in my ship, I browse the internet while still in my ship, I watch movies in my ship, etc. I just have to look up to see the screen - or I can hide it using voice commands when I need a better canopy view.

SectorZero said:
Sometimes, there isn’t much to do when you have the scuba gear on between systems.
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Being a scuba diver and VR player, I can confidently tell you that the scuba gear is much heavier. But maybe you are referring to the mask alone?
 

wrmiller

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SectorZero said:
I love VR. I think everyone has to try ED in VR once. But after playing for a few sessions you start to realize that Track-IR may offer a more practical experience. Sometimes, there isn’t much to do when you have the scuba gear on between systems. And when you need to look something up online, you have to rip all of that off. Track-IR, I just need to glance down at my tablet.

Again, I think VR is great but unless there is something that provides a compelling advantage I think Track-IR is a more practical experience.

Am I missing something in the VR experience that I haven’t considered? Would love to hear your thoughts.
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I looked at trying VR a while back, but I was really disappointed with the resolution. When VR can match the 3440x1440 on my wide screen I may revisit it. Until then I'll continue to enjoy my trackir.
 

gorankar

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Yep, Virtual Desktop to look at Inara/EDDB/Discord/Etc, or do other things during a long SC run.
I will admit to playing less often in VR because it can be inconvenient to break it all out sometimes when I just want to play for a few minutes.
I have not noticed any HMD's that weigh anywhere near my motorcycle helmet. I wear that for hours at a time sometimes. Sweaty face is my biggest complaint with VR. But I only have that issue when I play Beat Sabre, or other more active games the ED.
 

gorankar

gorankar
LeoBartlet85 said:
Another VR thread, wow.
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Well, yeah, you have the people angry over not extending support for VR into legs, so threads, and then you get people saying, it was stupid of you to want it since it is so impractical, so more threads.
Opinions are like.......well, you know. We all have one. We are all welcome to spew them out. Where one does that is important though.
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
CMDR M Kozak said:
VR is about the experience. About being in a spaceship... not sitting at a desk reading websites.
Hard to understand, I know - but even harder to explain with other words but experience.

Im also not a min/max player, so I dont need external websites during Play in a manner that exceeds what virtuel desktop can provide.
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Pretty much how I play. ED with VR you're in the environment and I also don't use third party websites while playing. I really have no need.
 

DeeFeeBro

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I have to agree. With a monitor you're merely an observer. Even with the increased resolution and fidelity it really does pale in comparison to actually being there.
 

kilvenny

kilvenny
Its hard to really capture what VR feels like unless you have tried it. Ten minutes in flight in ED I have forgotten I am in a room, I am there in my Cobra cockpit. I can see the seat beside me. I push the throttle forward and look down and my hand is sliding forward in 3d. I glance up and see the red lights above my head from the panel above. The light from the sun flicks off the glass of my canopy. I reach across with my right arm and I cannot quite reach the adjacent seat. I fly through the toaster, I slide underneath an exiting Type 9, it looks huge in comparison. I hear the thud of engines above me as it passes slowly over the top of me. I drop the gear and slide onto pad 13 and it feels like I am there in an alternate world.
 

Azulkb

Azulkb
i farmed all my material in VR. never sickeness.
i explored (and when i explore, it's for 6 month trip min) exclusive in VR
i obtain all guardian module in VR

and i wear glass, and a CV1. last year i only upgrade my CG and proc, and this year i take a Rift S.

how it feel ? for me good, very good. The proof is I haven't even changed my monitors in 8 years. I don't use them.
 

Dooguk

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wrmiller said:
I looked at trying VR a while back, but I was really disappointed with the resolution. When VR can match the 3440x1440 on my wide screen I may revisit it. Until then I'll continue to enjoy my trackir.
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Crank Larson

Crank Larson
SectorZero said:
Am I missing something in the VR experience that I haven’t considered?
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It seems you missed the virtual reality bit, which is why it doesn't compare favourably to a flat screen, with or without TrackIR or EDTracker. This is assuming you've got one of the recent high resolution headsets - it probably was arguable if you are comparing CV1 and that generation to HD and tracking.

I replaced my CV1 with an Odyssey+, at which point I then disconnected my big screen from the computer as I no longer needed it.
 
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