VR Noob asking stupid VR question. Oculus Rift CV1. Please help . . .
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Oo! Now you have to tell me how to script it to switch the audio!
Funnily enough I actually found it easier getting an anaconda through the slot in VR. I always get it snagged somewhere in 2D but in VR I have a much better sense of scale and get it though unscathed every time.
...that was before I got drunk, blew it up, picked the wrong option on the rebuy menu and ended up back in a Sidey, 200 million credits the poorer.
I found that very weird, especially when you take a tumble and the SRV starts spinning around you. Must be one helluvah gimballed seat in that thing
. The motion sickness does subside with time if you stick with it. Small doses are the key here.Yeah, that's the thing while driving on bumpy planetary surfaces as you don't get the ability to compensate your head bob to compensate as you do in a real car when it gets bumby. In my case I rarly get any motion sickness but I can't drive for long at fast speeds on a bumpy planet or moon.
Maybe you could fixate the eyes to the horizon in game options I don't know, I haven't tried that yet but that kinda' ruins the whole idea using VR in the first place as for freedom of looking around.
The concept of visualizing in game placement has always focused on you seeing the world through a camera when in VR you take that camera out of the equation so that's why I in most cases take away sun glare and post effects in general in pretty much any game/simulators I play...
The trick to that is to mostly fly.
I maintain about 35-40ms on these surfaces but I treat them mostly as a series of jumps, and if you get the flow and a little experience with the planet gravity you can use the thrusters to control landings so I use the next bump as a launch into the next jump.
It's pretty much 2 seconds ground contact, followed by 20 WeeHEEEEE !.
Cue banjo music.
Of course once the g is high enough, you can't really do that, even I get tired from balling around Achenar 3, granted you will loose the buggy's hull so rapidly you need repair every three minutes.
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I use a command line tool called 'nircmd'. Here's an old post with a bit more detail ...
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...er-Detector!?p=4898893&viewfull=1#post4898893
Thanks for that. I copied nircmd.exe into my Windows directory and typed the following into an elevated command prompt:
nircmd setdefaultsounddevice "Headphones (Rift Audio)"
Nothing happened. No error message, no result. Sound still on speakers
Looks like I'll have to read the help file some more...
EDIT: Ah! Stand down everybody. Just needs the word "Headphones", without the Rift bit.
Dunno how that works if I plug in my Sennheiser headset while the Rift is still attached, but I'm sure I'll find out
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Thanks for that. I copied nircmd.exe into my Windows directory and typed the following into an elevated command prompt:
nircmd setdefaultsounddevice "Headphones (Rift Audio)"
Nothing happened. No error message, no result. Sound still on speakers
Looks like I'll have to read the help file some more...
EDIT: Ah! Stand down everybody. Just needs the word "Headphones", without the Rift bit.
Dunno how that works if I plug in my Sennheiser headset while the Rift is still attached, but I'm sure I'll find out
Here are my two DOS batch files, one called start_oculus.bat ..
Code:
@echo off
"C:\Windows\System32\net.exe" start OVRService
timeout /t 3
"D:\Program Files\Nircmd\nircmd.exe" setdefaultsounddevice "Headphones" 1.. and the other called stop_oculus.bat ..
Code:
@echo off
"C:\Windows\System32\net.exe" stop OVRService
"D:\Program Files\Nircmd\nircmd.exe" setdefaultsounddevice "Speakers" 1Looks like I'm ignoring the part of the sound device name that's in brackets.
If you have the spare buttons on your HOTAS, then you can set the nav panels etc to toggle on and off with a button press. It's nice because it means you can look around fully unobstructed without the panels popping up to ruin your view.
Thrustmaster-T16000M-Hotas Highly recomended, more buttons than you can shake a stick at, which in VR is most welcome. Also if you do other flight sims then go for the flight pack which includes the pedals. Just got the pedals myself the other day. Trying them with Elite at the moment but not sure they're a good fit for it, feels more natural keeping it all on the stick for Elite. Bought the pedals for IL2, DCS and Aerofly FS2 anyway.
You'll get used to the SRV bobbing motion, and VR motion in general. As your brain adjusts to it, that feeling of phantom motion sadly starts to recede and all but disappears.
As for drinks, I use a small shot glass filled with an appropriate spirit.
Thank you Chaz and all the other contributors to this thread.
My experiences so far after 5 days of an Oculus Rift CV1:
Overall impression is that it is absolutely fabulous with the scale that it puts the ships and space stations in. You don't appreciate this in 2D (even with triple screens). Everything, including your ship, is huge.
Following one suggestion, I have bought an Imperial Eagle which Felicity is busy modifying to make it go fast. Looking forward to the canyon runs - no shields obviously.
Combat is truly awesome, a real scale of being there and dog-fighting, when a ship you are firing on flies over your head and you look up to see it disappearing behind you.
Main drawback - the resolution. it's like looking through a fly-screen. OK, I understand that if you want the leading edge of technology then this is what WE have have to endure. Endure is not the right word, the technology can only get better - right ?
Despite having locked the horizons on the buggy, I am still struggling with motion sickness on this.
I wear glasses (vari-focals). While the glasses (just) fit into the CV1 headset, after an hour the top of my nose is crushed. This could be an adjustment issue with the headset, but the cross-hair resolution is out if I raise the headset up. Time will tell.
I am still not used to the turn your head for the side panels bit. Unfortunately, I have no spare buttons on my Thrustmaster HOTAS-X joystick as mentioned above. Can I do this with Voice Attack so that the panels appear upon voice command ?
And the winners of the drinks competition are . . . . . :
Boxmann for the straws suggestion, and
RhymeRhyme for the Gin and Tonic suggestion.
Gin and Tonic through a straw. Lovely. Couple of those and will be facing the re-buy screen.
The bottom line. I don't regret buying this for one minute. Puts a whole new perspective on Elite
Chris
P.S. Biggest laugh. Download the Oculus Dreamdeck software and give your missus the full VR experience (without explaining it first). I so wish I had videoed it. She obviously has issues with dinosaurs . . . . . .[big grin]
My experiences so far after 5 days of an Oculus Rift CV1:
Overall impression is that it is absolutely fabulous with the scale that it puts the ships and space stations in. You don't appreciate this in 2D (even with triple screens). Everything, including your ship, is huge.
Following one suggestion, I have bought an Imperial Eagle which Felicity is busy modifying to make it go fast. Looking forward to the canyon runs - no shields obviously.
Combat is truly awesome, a real scale of being there and dog-fighting, when a ship you are firing on flies over your head and you look up to see it disappearing behind you.
Main drawback - the resolution. it's like looking through a fly-screen. OK, I understand that if you want the leading edge of technology then this is what WE have have to endure. Endure is not the right word, the technology can only get better - right ?
Despite having locked the horizons on the buggy, I am still struggling with motion sickness on this.
I wear glasses (vari-focals). While the glasses (just) fit into the CV1 headset, after an hour the top of my nose is crushed. This could be an adjustment issue with the headset, but the cross-hair resolution is out if I raise the headset up. Time will tell.
I am still not used to the turn your head for the side panels bit. Unfortunately, I have no spare buttons on my Thrustmaster HOTAS-X joystick as mentioned above. Can I do this with Voice Attack so that the panels appear upon voice command ?
And the winners of the drinks competition are . . . . . :
Boxmann for the straws suggestion, and
RhymeRhyme for the Gin and Tonic suggestion.
Gin and Tonic through a straw. Lovely. Couple of those and will be facing the re-buy screen.
The bottom line. I don't regret buying this for one minute. Puts a whole new perspective on Elite
Chris
P.S. Biggest laugh. Download the Oculus Dreamdeck software and give your missus the full VR experience (without explaining it first). I so wish I had videoed it. She obviously has issues with dinosaurs . . . . . .[big grin]
Thank you Chaz and all the other contributors to this thread.
My experiences so far after 5 days of an Oculus Rift CV1:
Overall impression is that it is absolutely fabulous with the scale that it puts the ships and space stations in. You don't appreciate this in 2D (even with triple screens). Everything, including your ship, is huge.
Following one suggestion, I have bought an Imperial Eagle which Felicity is busy modifying to make it go fast. Looking forward to the canyon runs - no shields obviously.
Combat is truly awesome, a real scale of being there and dog-fighting, when a ship you are firing on flies over your head and you look up to see it disappearing behind you.
Main drawback - the resolution. it's like looking through a fly-screen. OK, I understand that if you want the leading edge of technology then this is what WE have have to endure. Endure is not the right word, the technology can only get better - right ?
Despite having locked the horizons on the buggy, I am still struggling with motion sickness on this.
I wear glasses (vari-focals). While the glasses (just) fit into the CV1 headset, after an hour the top of my nose is crushed. This could be an adjustment issue with the headset, but the cross-hair resolution is out if I raise the headset up. Time will tell.
I am still not used to the turn your head for the side panels bit. Unfortunately, I have no spare buttons on my Thrustmaster HOTAS-X joystick as mentioned above. Can I do this with Voice Attack so that the panels appear upon voice command ?
And the winners of the drinks competition are . . . . . :
Boxmann for the straws suggestion, and
RhymeRhyme for the Gin and Tonic suggestion.
Gin and Tonic through a straw. Lovely. Couple of those and will be facing the re-buy screen.
The bottom line. I don't regret buying this for one minute. Puts a whole new perspective on Elite
Chris
P.S. Biggest laugh. Download the Oculus Dreamdeck software and give your missus the full VR experience (without explaining it first). I so wish I had videoed it. She obviously has issues with dinosaurs . . . . . .[big grin]
Brilliant, nice post and pretty much echoes my thoughts.
I too struggle with the SRV, locking the horizon helps, but any reasonable period in it starts to make me feel urk.. my suspicion is the frames locking at 45fps, whilst it's fine for a while, my brain and eyes start to suffer. Sadly the SRV is a limited experience for me in VR, whereas in 2D i'd spend ages in it doodling around.
I'd recommend a low level canyon run using a DBS or DBX - great fun, feels like you are in an attack helicopter.
Oh, and on the subject of partners and VR experiences, I've discovered my wife has a real problem with vertigo after one particular Dreamdeck experience.
I like this answer as it has pie in it.
You could try these. They're not cheap but they improve the image for me, compared to not wearing glasses (YMMV). They're not perfect, either, as they have a tendency to come loose over time, and fall out, but they're easy enough to put back in. They don't do varifocals, so give them your DISTANCE prescription (not sure of the science on this but that's what was recommended to me and it seems to be about right.
Before you do any of that though, try just taking your glasses off and setting the rift up again without them. In most cases that's all that's needed.
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I use an old pair of glasses where I have removed the arms and put foam around the frame so I don't scratch the Rift lenses. They actually fit nicely in the Rift so I can take it off and on just as easily as not wearing glasses.
Thank you AndysonofBob.
I am already an experienced VoiceAttack user and it works fine with the headset on.
I have already made a VA message saying: "Sorry I can't talk to you - I'm wearing a VR headset".
However, there is one absolutely show stopping fault with the headset. I am seriously going to have to reconsider my purchase:
Why ?
I can't get a beer glass, or even the can for that matter, anywhere near my mouth 'cos the headset's in the way.
So come on, you experienced VR users, what's the solution - AND DON'T SAY "GIVE UP DRINKING" . . . . . . .
Chris
Use a straw! We won't tell.
So is there an actual fix to get Elite to run in HMD mode every single time without using yet another 3rd party program? I just find that profiler app to be insanely cluttered and it has no installer like everything else.
I have to laugh every time I boot up Elite because there I am again, applying settings for the 100th time. But I would rather keep doing this than use that app.
I have to laugh every time I boot up Elite because there I am again, applying settings for the 100th time. But I would rather keep doing this than use that app.
If you start ED from Steam then you have to apply the settings every time. But if you launch the EDlauncher directy under your steam folder then you dont have to and you don't need the profiler app for that.
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Oh that's strange, I never have Steam open or even running on my system. Although Elite is installed on my machine through Steam, I always just launch the game on my taskbar from a direct shortcut to the EDlaunch exe.
Couldn't install the game without Steam because installing the game through Frontiers servers was going at 20kb/s. Anyway, sorry for hijacking your thread. Don't worry about me [up] I'm sure Frontier will work something out eventually. [haha]