They removed it most likely because you didn't follow forum rules on it. They don't remove posts or threads arbitrarily, they follow forum rules and posting policy to the letter.
Get over it.
we backed a kickstarter project. keep that in mind.
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They removed it most likely because you didn't follow forum rules on it. They don't remove posts or threads arbitrarily, they follow forum rules and posting policy to the letter.
Get over it.
Nah was polite an all and not even angry lol. And I didn't say they deleted the post, they just moved it into the current "complainer trash thread" (can you guess which one?
)Nah was polite an all and not even angry lol. And I didn't say they deleted the post, they just moved it into the current "complainer trash thread" (can you guess which one?
Then again, they did what their rules state, they moved it to the correct location for it's material, and the title in the old location shows moved, so people can find it. Time to go.
Apart from 1 critical part for at least 10% of the original backers - offline mode.
- Remember when FD announced no offline support I pulled my pledge in protest to support the others ?
- Remember Styggron and co debating with FD about this decision ?
- Remember post "yes" Styggron evangelising about this drumming up more support / backers ?
Irrespective of the features some people can't play the game.
WoW has private shards - as does DAoC / Diablo. All these were online only games - some bright sparks created their own server that you could download and enjoy for free at home.
Expect one "soon" (tm) for ED
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This game is near as damn it perfect. Why mod it?
Is the latest newsletter the most certain statement on offline mode or has there been other official communication?
I'm just throwing this out there and I am genuinely sorry if I've missed something. The grey area in that newsletter, to me, was "connect from time to time". I'm not sure what that means. It doesn't sound like authentication to me.
I was never sure how offline could work with regard to exploration. It would of meant that an offline client would of had the entire universe on hard disk waiting to be found. This would of raised the possibility (and therefore certainty) of it being hacked and published, thus spoiling things for explorers everywhere. I wonder if the 'time to time' is some sort of exploration update compromise. Exploration is specifically mentioned as a concern. I wonder if a better compromise would of been limiting offline mode to a static, discovered only subset of systems. Then if you wanted to travel further you connected and got an update. That would still make serious offline exploration impossible. I never intended to play offline but I wonder if people who do/did might prefer that? But I think offline 400 billion star exploration is a huge problem whatever the solution.
I'm just throwing this out there and I am genuinely sorry if I've missed something. The grey area in that newsletter, to me, was "connect from time to time". I'm not sure what that means. It doesn't sound like authentication to me.
I was never sure how offline could work with regard to exploration. It would of meant that an offline client would of had the entire universe on hard disk waiting to be found. This would of raised the possibility (and therefore certainty) of it being hacked and published, thus spoiling things for explorers everywhere. I wonder if the 'time to time' is some sort of exploration update compromise. Exploration is specifically mentioned as a concern. I wonder if a better compromise would of been limiting offline mode to a static, discovered only subset of systems. Then if you wanted to travel further you connected and got an update. That would still make serious offline exploration impossible. I never intended to play offline but I wonder if people who do/did might prefer that? But I think offline 400 billion star exploration is a huge problem whatever the solution.
If you pre-ordered in their shop you are protected by strong EU consumer laws and can get a refund. After all if the product lacks a promised and essential feature that makes it unusable for you. Well if you need to play offline at least.
Kickstarter backers are probably SOL but maybe they can sell their accounts on ebay for a profit if they wait a while.
Based on my experience they have delivered much more than what I expected and going off that ALL commanders should be giving FD even more money to compensate them for exceeding my expectations of the game.
People are upset because something that was promised explicitly was announced as not being there a month before final release.
That's okay.
Frontier, despite trying to deliver that promise eventually had to abandon the feature.
That's okay too.
What we have are two situations that are both okay. People angry at a company for dropping a feature they decided wasn't feasible and would damage the final game.
The people who're angry have to decide if it's worth staying (or even if they can with connection problems!) and if they can't ask for a refund.
Frontier have to apologise for not being able to maintain that feature, despite having made the valiant effort and agree to refund those people.
And then we move on.
That's okay.
Frontier, despite trying to deliver that promise eventually had to abandon the feature.
That's okay too.
What we have are two situations that are both okay. People angry at a company for dropping a feature they decided wasn't feasible and would damage the final game.
The people who're angry have to decide if it's worth staying (or even if they can with connection problems!) and if they can't ask for a refund.
Frontier have to apologise for not being able to maintain that feature, despite having made the valiant effort and agree to refund those people.
And then we move on.
See now why didn't you say that on Friday and save everyone an awful lot of typing?
It was too hot on Friday.
I was under the impression I was to have gamma too. Don't know why I thought that, and I certainly can't find any wording in my backers receipt or on the Kickstarter page for my level, that mentions gamma.
But, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference - I'm not going to miss any functionality and there was never a release date given when I backed nearly 2 years ago. I can wait as long as it takes.
So genuine question - why do you feel cheated?
On the whole I agree with your posts here Mobius (thanks for the awesome PvE group btw lol). But I would suggest that while the DRM-free offline version would likely have been open to piracy, surely that piracy would only impact on the offline version of the game anyway? And Frontier would have known the likelihood of that when promising it in the first place - the whole notion, I thought, of a DRM-free offline version was primarily as a convenience for those who purchase the game. At the end of the day, surely pirated, even modded, versions of an offline version would have no impact on online, and I thought Frontier first promised the offline version with that knowledge in mind. Losing the offline version won't stop me playing as I was going to play online mostly anyway, but I was also hoping for the offline version for the flexibility it promised to provide. All the same, itching to see what 3.9 brings though.....
We are many, certainly with you on this point. Especially if ED disappears in a few years
Based on my experience they have delivered much more than what I expected and going off that ALL commanders should be giving FD even more money to compensate them for exceeding my expectations of the game.
Do not forget that the game was planned with £ 1.25 million and they collected 7 - 8 millions I believe. So normal that there is more
What about those that have had their jollies with the game for months and now want their money back using (insert excuse here)?
Only a fool who could play the game and just randomly wanted money back would randomly want their money back.