Powerplay Faction: Aisling Duval Weekly Objectives for Cycle 89

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Tataboj said:
Who fortifies this system? Commanders loyal to AD who follow the Trello. How would you fortifying a system be any relevant? Anyone can do that and we fortify so much nobody can collusion undermine us, even without you.
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I don't refuse this. I'm only saying, that some systems don't get enough attention from AA's in terms of fortifying, but much more in the false adoption that we would increase the trigger there ;)

It is like the leadership of the AA's would make us responsible for the fact that in china has a bag rice fallen and they go full war for that. It just makes no sense!
 
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Rolfandor

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You really don't have any idea how the power of AD works, do you? :D

You keep saying AA, doesn't give enough attention to some systems. How do you know which specific systems AA players give attention to or not? You also mention AA leadership making you responsible for something, well yes attacking us, you were there your name was on the Bounty boards, ofc our leadership would think you are responsible for that.

AA is ONE playergroup within the AD community and hardly a dictatorial one. Yet, in your mindset AA are responsible for the fact that in china has a bag of rice fallen and you go full war for that. It just makes no sense!

To lighten things up:
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JeffRyan

JeffRyan
So... if the Yan Musu sphere is CCC it's you guys who take care of it and make sure it's unflipped.

But if the Yan Musu sphere isn't CCC (which it isn't) you guys never touch the Yan Musu sphere?

So which is it?
 

Malvenue

Malvenue
Black Hand are the traitors as evidenced they their attacking an Imperial power.

Not that it matters, they just found out what it means to Back Handed out of their own systems for their treachery. :D
 

JeffRyan

JeffRyan
I have delibrately NOT been throwing the word traitor around in any discussion. I believe that two internal factions can have a dispute and neither of them is being inherently treacherous. I have a problem when the Black Hand do it to us, I don't believe we should be doing it to them.
 

Rolfandor

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Well, as far as I have seen on the different AA forums, AA discord or TS, there has been little or no talk about the BH for well over a half year and I'm fairly active on all of them. Until ofc they attacked our BGS, that led them to get some attention that they craved. That sounds like warmongering to me.

To retaliate against an aggressive playerfaction, could in my opinion not warrant to be a traitor to the whole empire, either. No matter what allegiance the aggressor claims to have.

I would furthermore claim that the Angels actually engage in other activities than scheming againtst BH.
 
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Martin Schou

Martin Schou
Astrelle said:
If you're Imperial Loyalists, as you say, but have a problem with the Aisling Duval favorables factions then maybe it's time for you to pledge to another Power.
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You may want to check that sentence, because none of Aisling's favourable government types are available in the Empire. Aisling's favourable government types are Communist, Cooperative and Confederacy, and the Empire only allows Prison Colony, Anarchy, Feudal, Dictatorship, Corporate and Patronage.

As such, it is impossible for a faction to be favourable to Aisling and Imperial.
 

Astrelle

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Martin Schou said:
You may want to check that sentence, because none of Aisling's favourable government types are available in the Empire. Aisling's favourable government types are Communist, Cooperative and Confederacy, and the Empire only allows Prison Colony, Anarchy, Feudal, Dictatorship, Corporate and Patronage.

As such, it is impossible for a faction to be favourable to Aisling and Imperial.
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You're right. A small change can fix this :

If you're Imperial Loyalists, as you say, and have a problem with the Aisling Duval favorables factions then maybe it's time for you to pledge to another Power.
 
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Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Astrelle said:
You're right. A small change can fix this :

If you're Imperial Loyalists, as you say, and have a problem with the Aisling Duval favorables factions then maybe it's time for you to pledge to another Power.
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Argh.....read it all before start discussing :|
Our members are from different powers. All imperial (except for getting packhounds :D) but some AD, some ZT, others ALD. I am since ever AD pledged and don't have intentions to changes this.
Also, our space is occupied by AD and we don't give up our homesystem (which is technically impossible, if you retreat from ALL other systems, you turn home anyways) and we don't give up our other systems. We are not the ones who have a problem, the AA's are the ones, who condemn us for being feudal and won't stop attacking us for our presence there.
Even if we focus our expansion into Zemina space (where we are beneficial for PP) they keep attacking us there! They have attacked two of our Zemina systems and several non-exploited systems from us.

So simply pledging to an other Power won't be a solution in any way, it would give them just more reason to attack us in AD systems because we wouldn't be any longer official AD supporters.
 

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
JeffRyan said:
So... if the Yan Musu sphere is CCC it's you guys who take care of it and make sure it's unflipped.

But if the Yan Musu sphere isn't CCC (which it isn't) you guys never touch the Yan Musu sphere?

So which is it?
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have you noticed, that the government information on the galaxy map is bugged?
Lidar is showen as "feudal" but it is actual "patronage". Ekondhri is shown as "corporate" but is actual "feudal". Chiutl is showen as "patronage" but it is actual a "cooperative".

I have raised a Bug-report some time ago about this problem and they "are looking into this". But i have NO idea how this affects the fortification Trigger or if it even affects it. Because i have no idea nor anyone else that i have asked, i have decided to do at the moment nothing in terms of flipping systems to CCC to be on the safe site. We simply don't know exactly which one reduces the trigger, what is showen on galaxy map or what is real government.
But if AA's really would care about this and would have taken a look at this, they would have noticed :rolleyes:


And nobody should forget, that missions affext also the eceiving factions since some time. If you support one CCC faction in systems A with missions, it can happen that you support other factions in the systems B, C, D and E at the same time ;)
Better keep a look WHICH missions you accept and which ones you decline. We have found missions to support a faction with personal weapons, but we were at war with them. Great Job from FDevs but you need to look out for such things.
 
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Tataboj

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Lucius-Darcia said:
have you noticed, that the government information on the galaxy map is bugged?
Lidar is showen as "feudal" but it is actual "patronage". Ekondhri is shown as "corporate" but is actual "feudal". Chiutl is showen as "patronage" but it is actual a "cooperative".

I have raised a Bug-report some time ago about this problem and they "are looking into this". But i have NO idea how this affects the fortification Trigger or if it even affects it. Because i have no idea nor anyone else that i have asked, i have decided to do at the moment nothing in terms of flipping systems to CCC to be on the safe site. We simply don't know exactly which one reduces the trigger, what is showen on galaxy map or what is real government.
But if AA's really would care about this and would have taken a look at this, they would have noticed :rolleyes:


And nobody should forget, that missions affext also the eceiving factions since some time. If you support one CCC faction in systems A with missions, it can happen that you support other factions in the systems B, C, D and E at the same time ;)
Better keep a look WHICH missions you accept and which ones you decline. We have found missions to support a faction with personal weapons, but we were at war with them. Great Job from FDevs but you need to look out for such things.
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So you did nothing. Fine. Aisling Duval actually has a team dedicated to flipping the sphere and we didn't have a problem with it. We have successfully flipped the Yan Musu sphere before. We're taking all of those things into account because we actually want to achieve something there. And I honestly can't believe you would choose to ignore CCCs because of a Galaxy map bug.
 

Lucius-Darcia

Lucius-Darcia
Tataboj said:
So you did nothing. Fine. Aisling Duval actually has a team dedicated to flipping the sphere and we didn't have a problem with it. We have successfully flipped the Yan Musu sphere before. We're taking all of those things into account because we actually want to achieve something there. And I honestly can't believe you would choose to ignore CCCs because of a Galaxy map bug.
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Fine, than do this.
It's not our main goal, we have limited time and more important things to do. For example defending our INDEPENDENT UNEXPLOITED systems from hostile AD-players/playergroups :rolleyes:
 
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JeffRyan

JeffRyan
Lucius-Darcia said:
Fine, than do this.
It's not our main goal, we have limited time and more important things to do. For example defending our INDEPENDENT UNEXPLOITED systems from hostile AD-players/playergroups :rolleyes:
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Here's a sincere tip. If you're on the Imperial Discord, look at the way we speak to you and the way your colleagues speak to us. Now this isn't now. This goes back over a year and is the reason Silent Thunder himself was originally banned from the Slack. We've treated the Black Hand with respect, moreso than we feel it deserves, the reverse has never been the case. We've had to deal with vile language and accusations from the first. I went from Silent's pal and comrade in arms to 'another deceitful coward that thinks elite is a text adventure' for simply calling him out on undermining us when he told us he hadn't. And that's one of the nicer things he's had to say about me since. Even your own posts like the Imperial Battle Call is full of rhetoric about us being 'Feds and traitors' when we've not thrown the same accusations back at you. There's a reason that this anger against the BH has built up.
 

Jpotter

Jpotter
This is very simple to me - BH supports factions that do not support Aisling and are in fact harmful to her control. I am an Aisling supporter. I kill things that don't and could do harm. Feudal faction = harm.

Simple. Those are all the facts I need - none of the drama necessary.
 
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oRZACK

oRZACK
hi guys... im new pledged to Aisling, mi real reason is to have prismatics shields.... but i dont want to screw your plans of expansion or fortification, so there is a discord or something where i can see where the aid is more needed or something.... now i have a t9 reADY to move aisling propaganda... or if you neeed some pvp i have a ferdie and a Conda ready to fight
 

Cori

Cori
Yes, the Slack in the original post is what you need.

Other than that, if you look at the Trello (also in the original post) you will see our current list of objectives.
 
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