Weeks of hard grinding, all gone in an instant (please help)
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If it makes you feel any better I went salvaging for my federation promotion, I picked up the goods and I thought I hit Home but instead I jettisoned about 390 tons worth of goods. It made a pretty sight but like hell am I going to pick those up.
Never trade without insurance or shields. Doing so otherwise is...
File a support ticket. They might help you since it was a bug. Don't use docking computers again.
File a support ticket. They might help you since it was a bug. Don't use docking computers again.
I find it SO embarrassing that after a year, the auto-docking computer is STILL a waste of time and not even working as intended.
Good job Frontier, thanks for making me laugh at you... again.
OP probably made the mistake to not use enough imagination in that situation.
To the OP, I'm mostly sorry for that mishap, but then again, leaving while in space and especially while approaching a station is like begging for something like this.
Could have been prevented if you would have been there, but that won't help now obviously.
Good job Frontier, thanks for making me laugh at you... again.
OP probably made the mistake to not use enough imagination in that situation.
To the OP, I'm mostly sorry for that mishap, but then again, leaving while in space and especially while approaching a station is like begging for something like this.
Could have been prevented if you would have been there, but that won't help now obviously.
Well, this is a "fly a spaceship" sim game is it not? Consider - would you REALLY fly in this dangerous universe without any shields? Would you REALLY leave the controls completely unattended when in any sort of autopilot mode? Would you REALLY fly multi-million credit machines with no insurance? Sorry OP but you are not being a very good pilot - you are in "playing a game" mode, not "simulating a real pilot" mode.
Even in 3000AD hardware and software will fail. So the docking computer CAN fail as it is just a device in the end.
Even in 3000AD hardware and software will fail. So the docking computer CAN fail as it is just a device in the end.
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1. You don't have to pay the fine. Jump out of system.
2. wait a while before you go back to that system.
3. switch to a sidewinder and go die, then the fine is gone.
2. wait a while before you go back to that system.
3. switch to a sidewinder and go die, then the fine is gone.
Ah right...
You do know that we have the technology today to land passenger planes by autopilot if necessary, right?
Landings are usually done manually, but it is still possible.
In 3300, I'd expect this to be nothing with potential for error.
But of course, it is such a convenient excuse for something that is just a badly designed feature from FDEV, that wasn't fixed yet.
I've been using the SDC for at least 1000+ auto dockings now, mostly all with freighter ships - hauler, type 6, type 7, cargo asp, etc.
Never a significant issue, not once. By significant, I mean serious hull damage.
The only quirk I've found is if you are heading towards an outpost, and full blast boost before you initiate contact and request for landing, then hit SDC, roughly 1 in 40-50 times, call it 2% for that specific situational scenario - it will miscalculate your initial velocity when it does the usual boost-boost- to close with outpost and then flip for pad landing.
And you'll crash into the landing pad, but always at a max reverse thrust, reverse engine speed - so worst that has happened is shielded, my shield ring barely takes 1 ring dmg. Unshielded, a few k to maybe 5k dmg - basically a scratch.
Not saying full throttle bug can't happen as OP describes, but so far in my xp and many, many auto dockings, never come up so I would expect the error rate to be quite low.
so low, that you characterizing it as "embarrassing" leads serious question to credibility whether you've tried out the new SDC vs what I agree all the old posts describe as poor and slow SDC behavior.
You are absolutely right, but the pilots are there to take over in case it goes wrong, pilots going to get a drink is definitely user error
Which I said in an earlier post.You are absolutely right, but the pilots are there to take over in case it goes wrong, pilots going to get a drink is definitely user error
I am not talking about OPs situation directly, I am just a little disappointed that the docking auto pilot still has issues of that kind.
Someone else defended it saying "I never had huge hull damage", well "great"?!
Imagine someone would release a car-parking system which bumps your car here and there... off the market in 3...2...1... Hell, it wouldn't even get on the market, you see my point?
FDEV are just lazy and unreliable and it shows in many details which disappoints me as an alpha backer.
Edit: BTW, do NPCs still linger and suicide inside of stations being too stupid to fly in or out? I ahven't played in a while but I wouldn't be surprised to hear a nice distant "boom" every once in a while, when docked... duh.
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Do you guys think that maybe FD will refund my 116M from my previous save, if I ask nicely? is it worth a shot? xD
My apologies, I was skimming
Though I think you are being exceedingly unfair to call FD lazy and unreliable, it's hardly life critical programming is it? If it were we'd be paying a significant amount more than we did and also it would have to be vetted by all sorts of authorities, it's not even remotely fair to compare a singular compononent of entertainment software to real life commercial software that is used to land planes.
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-I take you at your word the SDC somehow bugged out beyond the norm (bump into landing pad on outposts known error low % of time). Never happened to me in thousand+ auto docks but not saying it can't happen.
-Also sympathize on your situation and agree deserve some help - everyone should get a get out of jail free card once I think
-But question about something that doesn't make sense to me:
Even if you didn't have enough money for insurance, you didn't have enough money left over to get you over the max loan amount?
When you die now and don't have enough to cover insurance, the game offers an additional safety net of a loan to cover your lack of insurance money - the max amount of loan is based on your fed pilot rank, but even as a brand newbie bit over week ago, I got ~900k in loan money.
You traded up to a clipper, so I assume your trade or combat or however you earned that cash got you ranked up least 2-3 ranks in something, so your max loan should be higher than the bare minimum ~900k I just said above
Even my fully loaded, and fully armed, type 7 is barely over 1M insurance. So a non-rated pilot with zero combat/trade/explore rank would have at minimum ~900k, and someone who earned enough to buy a clipper should have well over 1M max loan. The clipper is more expensive than type 7 but not by OOM much, so I assume your insurance was something like 1.X million.
Taking that kind of risk of no insurance money, well I wouldn't do it, but I get it - excited about new ship and all - I've flown risky cargo missions too where if I lost it I'd have no money to rebuild my initial cargo purchase (but always carry insurance). But it seems you not only chose to not carry any insurance at all, but you also chose to not carry even the tiny amount of seed money to boost your max loan amount to cover the non-insurance.
e.g. if your insurance is 1.5M, and your max loan is 1.4M, then all you'd need to carry is a tiny 100k in cash. I would never, ever count on it - but that loan is basically an extra safety net on top of the insurance safety net.
In effect, you ignored the first and second last gasp safety net the game throws at you - and then went AFK.
So repeat my question - were you not offer a loan? did you see the loan screen pane on the right?
Oooh, ouch...had the DC do that to my clipper once, but I got shields so it is all good. I have boosted my clipper into the side of the station while in silent running before...not so good.
EDIT; not sure if it was mentioned but SJA, the AI dev, has implemented a fix for fast ships doing that, like the Clipper. Not sure when she said it would be merged though.
EDIT; not sure if it was mentioned but SJA, the AI dev, has implemented a fix for fast ships doing that, like the Clipper. Not sure when she said it would be merged though.
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hahahaha - thank you! - made my day
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I autodock and alt-tab (to read while I wait) all the time, very rarely does the docking computer mess up and when it does I'm very glad I've got shields. Usually aim the ship to be in front of the station because I know it can't handle the odd spinning parts on some stations, also doesn't seem to see the solar panels on outposts.
As a side note, there's loans now? They didn't show up when I lost my python or vulture a bunch of times.
As a side note, there's loans now? They didn't show up when I lost my python or vulture a bunch of times.
