As it truly is a hidden gem, somewhere to be found in the jungle of the official support site I want to share it here:
What animals are able to climb and what do they climb - repost from Frontier's support site
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I am not working at Frontier. However, my best guess it means the different types ("thin"/ normal) of climbable logs (section "habitat") and wooden trims/ supports/ pillars (section construction; should all be classified as thin).
Most annoying thing is that horizontically placed climbable items yields very little area. Sometimes you really have to spam climbable items everywhere.
Just one tip: from my experience not every climbable item yields an animation. And try to leave as much space around the items and/ or trees as possible that there is enough space for a climbing animation. Good luck
There are really thin ones... I think these are the thin ones metioned - all others are thick I think. The really thin ones are more like thin branches, while the thicker ones are more like tree trunks.
There are really thin ones... I think these are the thin ones metioned - all others are thick I think. The really thin ones are more like thin branches, while the thicker ones are more like tree trunks.
The problem is that even those thick logs don't increase the climbable area, because my black bears don't use them. It's also quite confusing when items that are not suitet for an animal, still have the animal tag on them and get shown to you when you filter for that specific animal.
Are you able to share a screenshot of their climbable items? However, I have a quite good experience with apes so far, not with bears regarding climbing.
For bears I would experiment with more of the thick items, leaving out every thin item. If you want to gain just a higher figure of climbable area, place logs or planks diagonally inclined. This yields absurd amounts of climbable area while a horizontal climbable platform of 4*4 yields just approx 2.5 sqm.
Do your bears eat from the food tray placed on the platform? In Beta this worked for me (including refill of the keeper), in the released version it hasn't worked so far.
Do your bears eat from the food tray placed on the platform? In Beta this worked for me (including refill of the keeper), in the released version it hasn't worked so far.
The point is that items are shown that are not suitable for bears, even though I espesially filtered for bears. Even in the list above from Frontier it's stated that bears can't climb thin stuff. Still the thin logs are shown. This dosn't make sense.
I never saw the keeper fill the platform (even though he can reach it) because he alsways just fills the enrichment items.
Yeah, there are many filters or tags for specific items that are wrong (same applies to various plants/ trees). I'd ignore these and experiment with the things that look good and I'd like to have in the habitat. Then testing that over a couple of ingame years. That's what works for me.
The frustrating part comes when you planned out a structure but then you can scrap all this and beginn a new without indication what works, what not and why.
I spend a an eternety to figure out how to reach the right size of the climbable area and why certain things don't work. It was no fun, atleast not for me. Now my habitat can be describet with: "looks ugly but it works".
I spend a an eternety to figure out how to reach the right size of the climbable area and why certain things don't work. It was no fun, atleast not for me. Now my habitat can be describet with: "looks ugly but it works".
Indeed. Same applies to my experience designing the apes' habitats. It's very time consuming and after a couple of hours just for one species I have to do something else to not smah my PC =)
However, after all this refining I was able to do this and it works quite well.
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Looks really great.
Maby the next time I try to build some climbing frames, it will be easier, now that I know where the problems are.
Please share them in the workshop. There are not many good and working blueprints around. Here "working" includes that animals don't get boxed or is reduced to a minimum.
