What animals need a rework?

[NachoB]

We all know about the malayan tapir situation, so i hope this one does not turn into another #fixthemalayantapir thread, but i was looking at the animals we have in game and i've noticed how some more than others really need a re work in the models and textures, specially when compared with the later content we have been getting in the DLCs. Of course this is more noticeable in the animals from the base game, but even among those there is a lot of disparity in quality.

For me the animals that desperatly need a re do of sorts (other than the malayan tapir) are:

1. West African Lion
2. Spotted Hyena
3. African Wild Dog
4. Warthog
5. African buffalo
6. Snow Leopard
7. Himalayan brown bear (i would just replace it with any other bear but is already ingame so at least i want it to look nice)
8. Japanese macaque (mostly a re work on fur and textures, the model is ok)
9. Nile monitor (not high priority compared to the others but still could use better textures, a re work on the patterns and tweak on the model)
10. Reindeer (also not a high priority but honestly the ZT2 reindeer looks cooler than the one we got in the game, most of it due to the antlers... they look too thin, small and fragile)

And that's it for me... i can live with the version we have of the rest of the animals (yes even the tigers and the wolves, i have no major issues with them). But everyone's opinion is different so...

What are the animals you think should get a makeover?

 

[biggest_dreamer]

Malayan tapir is the only one I really care enough about to spend resources on, honestly. Maybe the camel if we ever do get a dromedary.

 

[Chuditch]

The female saltwater crocodile has a freakishly short tail, among other issues (too robust, male-like head, poor textures compared to new crocodilians, etc. It should also have colour variants that are way lighter and more brownish given dark ones like this aren't the norm). It's probably the most anatomically inaccurate animal in the game so it's a shame it's not brought up more often:

I mostly just use male crocs now given they have more accurate proportions and the female model in-game looks more like a male anyway.

 

[abigenius]

In general I don't have many issues with the animals in therms of the model but yes, there a few with problems of the model and my list of priority is this

Model and in general
1.- Peafowl ( that feathers are so bad now )
2.- Nyala
3.- Cheetah
4.- Snow Leopard
5.- Timber wolf ( it's so clarity the reason )
6.- Jaguar
7.- Reindeer ( it's fine now but it could be better)

Yes where I have many problems with the sizes of the animals principally of the base game

Size
1.- Indian Elephant
2.- Male Saltwater Crocodile
3.- HippoGodzilla
4.- American Bison
5.- African Buffalo
6.- Gharial ( the male it's too large and the female too small)
7.- Lions
8.- Tiger
9.- Aldabra Giant Tortoise
10.- Galapagos Giant Tortoise

 

[tigris115]

I think the elephant models could use some texture work. As well, the Indian elephant has the following issues
Weird size
Very large eyes
Weirdly long
Overly hunched, convex back. Looks unnatural

Ill try to provide pictures of what I'm talking about later.

 

[Nioell]

That poor copy-paste reskin tapir. Can't think of any other animal that needs a rework as much as this one ._.

 

[apparition of a capybara]

Many of the base game exhibit animals really need more color variants added. For example, Lehmann's poison frog and golden poison frog both have several color variants in real life (it's even mentioned in their respective zoopedias!) but in-game lehmanns poison frog only comes in the black/red variants and golden poison frog in a single shade of yellow.

 

[YesIndeed]

1. Malayan Tapir (literally a reskin)
2. Timber wolf/Arctic Wolf (too cartoony)
3. African Lion (same as wolf)
4. Spotted Hyena (Little Fixes)
5. Saltwater Crocs (it's blue)
6. Gharial (weird size)
7. Amur Leopard (looks really sad)
8. Giant Tortoise's (should be bigger, especially the Galapagos)
9. Koala (Is on the floor to much and looks too much like a plush)
10. African Buffalo/Water Buffalo ( for the African it should be called cape buffalo and should have aquatic biome. also both should be able to deep dive)

 

[Firestar97]

8. Japanese macaque (mostly a re work on fur and textures, the model is ok)

We also need more Variations of them. Different Shades of brown are very common for that Species. It's a Shame how much Primates got ignored in the Variations Update. Chimpanzees also need way more Variations

Many of the base game exhibit animals really need more color variants added. For example, Lehmann's poison frog and golden poison frog both have several color variants in real life (it's even mentioned in their respective zoopedias!) but in-game lehmanns poison frog only comes in the black/red variants and golden poison frog in a single shade of yellow.

I think we don't have any normal Color Variations for Exhibit Animals which is a absolute Shame. I think the Egyptian Fruit Bat also only has one normal Variation but there are also some more greyish ones in real life.
Also there's no sexual Dimorphism which I can understand for the Bat because making the male bigger might mess with the Animations too much but other Species should get it. I think the female of the Lesser Antilean Iguana can sometimes keep the light green Color of the juveniles. Also something else that bothers me is that not even a single one of the Exhibit Species has a Baby Model. I think at least Mammals, Reptiles and maybe also Amphibians should get those

also both should be able to deep dive

If we also add Animals that need the Ability to dive I'll add the Moose to the Thread. Also the Himalayan Brown Bear why should they not dive when they get the Opportunity in Captivity but the Grizzly Bear can? Nile Monitors should also be able to dive and I think Tapirs can dive too.

As someone already listed the Tortoises and the Bison need to be bigger. But there's also another one that is undersized. The Komodo Dragon. They are so tiny in the Game

 

[Marvinb]

Not many people seem to bring up the snakes. They are really bad in comparison to frontiers usual quality. The boa for example has a really weird headshape. But the rattlesnake is probably the most unaccurate animal in the game by far, they should have short and thick bodys instead of long noodle ones, also the head is just wrong. I not quite sure but i think there is just one snake model in the game with just different textures for each species, which is super sad. Its like slapping a giraffe texture on a horse and calling it a day.

 

[abigenius]

I think we don't have any normal Color Variations for Exhibit Animal

Only the axolotl has a lot of color morphs ( 5 if don't remember bad )

 

[sumcherish82]

In general I don't have many issues with the animals in therms of the model but yes, there a few with problems of the model and my list of priority is this

Model and in general
1.- Peafowl ( that feathers are so bad now )
2.- Nyala
3.- Cheetah
4.- Snow Leopard
5.- Timber wolf ( it's so clarity the reason )
6.- Jaguar
7.- Reindeer ( it's fine now but it could be better)

Yes where I have many problems with the sizes of the animals principally of the base game

Size
1.- Indian Elephant
2.- Male Saltwater Crocodile
3.- HippoGodzilla
4.- American Bison
5.- African Buffalo
6.- Gharial ( the male it's too large and the female too small)
7.- Lions
8.- Tiger
9.- Aldabra Giant Tortoise
10.- Galapagos Giant Tortoise

For size, we should include male sea lion

 

[Chuditch]

But the rattlesnake is probably the most unaccurate animal in the game by far, they should have short and thick bodys instead of long noodle ones, also the head is just wrong.

This is also an issue shared by the puff adder and the common death adder. All are very thickset snakes that are far too thin in-game.

Clearly all of the vipers (or viper-convergent elapids in the case of the death adder) in PZ are extremely emaciated.

 

[Utahraptor Arcanus]

There's only three animals i would like a true visual rework, being they:
Malayan tapir (literal no effort model)
Timber wolf ( the face and fur look ugly, the puppys also seens weird and looks like toys)
Green iguana (don't even looks like a green iguana)

 

[SalamAnders]

maybe also Amphibians should get those

Good luck finding tadpoles from poison frogs in those huge boxes

 

[Firestar97]

Good luck finding tadpoles from poison frogs in those huge boxes

XD now that you mention it. Also just remembered that Bullfrogs and Axolotl are cannibalistic towards their Offspring (which is why I enjoy calling the Axolotl the Majungasaurus of the Aquarium World) which means that they are normally kept in separate Exhibits anyways until they are big enough. Don't know what's the Situation like for the Fire Salamander

 

[SalamAnders]

XD now that you mention it. Also just remembered that Bullfrogs and Axolotl are cannibalistic towards their Offspring (which is why I enjoy calling the Axolotl the Majungasaurus of the Aquarium World) which means that they are normally kept in separate Exhibits anyways until they are big enough. Don't know what's the Situation like for the Fire Salamander

I have worked with amphibians some years ago, and my experience from that is most species of especially frogs and toads will try to eat everything that moves and are smaller than their mouth.

 

[Antimony96]

The ones that need actual model changes:
Malayan tapir
West African lion
Bactrian camel
Snow leopard
Spotted hyena
Timber wolf
Formosan black bear
Himalayan brown bear
Saltwater crocodile
Grizzly bear
Warthog
Jaguar
Most of the base game exhibit reptiles

The ones that need smaller changes (mostly texture/size):
Orangutan
Cheetah (the baby)
American bison
African buffalo
Indian elephant
Indian peafowl
Greater flamingo
Japanese macaque
Aldabra giant tortoise
Galapagos giant tortoise
Nile monitor
Reindeer
White rhino (the baby)
California sea lion

 

[Firestar97]

The ones that need actual model changes:
Malayan tapir
West African lion
Bactrian camel
Snow leopard
Spotted hyena
Timber wolf
Formosan black bear
Himalayan brown bear
Saltwater crocodile
Grizzly bear
Warthog
Jaguar
Most of the base game exhibit reptiles

The ones that need smaller changes (mostly texture/size):
Orangutan
Cheetah (the baby)
American bison
African buffalo
Indian elephant
Indian peafowl
Greater flamingo
Japanese macaque
Aldabra giant tortoise
Galapagos giant tortoise
Nile monitor
Reindeer
White rhino (the baby)
California sea lion

I really wonder how awesome all these Animals would look like if they were created with all of the Experience that Frontier has now

 

[shirandhak]

In addition: Not really a rework, but some adjustment of colour for the Przewalski Horse. As it is now, it is to dark-red-brownish, whereas in reality it is a more light greyish beige (similiar to the foal (whose colour is great!), but a bit darker). The dark colour, which now is on every horse, should/could be a colour variation. But all in all the colour is much too "saturated".