What do Credits actually mean?
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"Credit" as an universal token to me implies some sort of universally agreed upon governing body that guarantees the value of the amount.
Some sort of combination of the ISO (International Organization for Standardization), a UN resolution and a central bank.
The body only needs to be recognized enough for the guarantee to be acceptable, you could make a comparison to the US dollar - which is the closest we get to an international currency, and it is backed by the guarantee of the US state that one dollar represents so-and-so much projected product (service / goods).
Of course, a currency shared by sovereign entities can be bad at times (one state might have preferred inflation, another one deflation etc). But that's not an aspect that tend to make it into games.
Some sort of combination of the ISO (International Organization for Standardization), a UN resolution and a central bank.
The body only needs to be recognized enough for the guarantee to be acceptable, you could make a comparison to the US dollar - which is the closest we get to an international currency, and it is backed by the guarantee of the US state that one dollar represents so-and-so much projected product (service / goods).
Of course, a currency shared by sovereign entities can be bad at times (one state might have preferred inflation, another one deflation etc). But that's not an aspect that tend to make it into games.
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After you hit the 2 billion mark? Nothing.
Credits are useless and that is one of the better design decisions in this game.
I take it there has been an official Cheese creation CG suggestion?
See? - this is why this forum is sooo great. Overflowing with immersive, creative, emergent gameplay ideas... #edneedscheese #crackersnotto
C'mon FDev, you know it makes sense...
A decent Combat ready Cutter is going to run you 1.4bn or so credits.
Given you already have access to it, how long (in hours) should it take to actually be able to afford to buy it and kit it?
Now divide 1.4bn by your number and you get what credits you need to make per hour to achieve it.
And then ask yourself, if that time, is value per game time per your time? ie: Is it going to take you too much of your gaming time to achieve what you suppose is the best ship in the game.
Someone is ready to tell me at this point that they like to take it slow, and still others will want to tell me they like it faster. And there-in lies the problem for FDev. Creating a system that averages the income. After creating that average, you add in little incentives that help the player along, to keep them intersted, to keep them at the point of 'I'm nearly there'.
If at any time your player feels '&**&* this I'm getting nowhere' then there are 2 scenarios; 1. The game is too grindy, and 2. The player is expecting too much.
So, how do you know which is which? By interacting with your playerbase and averaging across the various play styles.
Credits allow you to buy ships and modules etc in Ebut they don't in any way infer ability or skill. But ships and modules so not reflect skill or ability either.. So it's a conundrum based on flaws. E
The mistake is thinking that your method of accruing credits is the right way, or indeed, mine is the wrong way. because at the end of the day neither of us any better than the other. There is no 'Im a higher level than you' in Elite.
You can please some of the players some of the time, and sometimes please all the players at one time, but you'll never please all players all the time. Find your mean averages and go with that. if they're correct the majority of the player base will be happy.
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Did you quote the wrong post? I don't see how any of what you said is relevant to what I posted, I don't disagree with most of it and neither does my post. I don't judge people's chosen credit making methods.
2bn? My cutter will run me 4/5ths of that. 20bn is where I would say it gets meaningless.
Dedicated Research and Exploration Dolphin: 10m credits.
Transfer fee to an edge-of-the bubble system: 150,000 credits.
Solving the mystery of an ancient, deceased alien race: Priceless
Some things money can buy.
For everything else, there's the Intergalactic Credit of the Bank of Zaonce.
Transfer fee to an edge-of-the bubble system: 150,000 credits.
Solving the mystery of an ancient, deceased alien race: Priceless
Some things money can buy.
For everything else, there's the Intergalactic Credit of the Bank of Zaonce.
If you have the ship(s) you want and outfitted them the way you like credits only mean safety for yourself regarding rebuys and the minor convenience of not having to worry about shipping.
They do not have any other purpose to me.
I've got 450 million on my account, a fully A rated and fitted Conda with various stored modules for combat, trading, mining and passenger missions from econmy to first class as well as an A rated ASP for exploration and material gathering from USS and planet surfaces and for exploration long range 1st class passenger missions.
I also have an A rated but unengineered Chieftain which will be fitted for combat with frag cannons as I like the looks of the ship a lot.
Because of that I did not even use the skimmer missions for extra cash as I simply don't need it.
They do not have any other purpose to me.
I've got 450 million on my account, a fully A rated and fitted Conda with various stored modules for combat, trading, mining and passenger missions from econmy to first class as well as an A rated ASP for exploration and material gathering from USS and planet surfaces and for exploration long range 1st class passenger missions.
I also have an A rated but unengineered Chieftain which will be fitted for combat with frag cannons as I like the looks of the ship a lot.
Because of that I did not even use the skimmer missions for extra cash as I simply don't need it.