What game are we all playing instead of E:D?

To me, the game is like stepping inside a book cover. "Cartoony" is just such an ignorant description IMO... by people who have no idea or appreciation of art and design. The description needs to die a death. 🤷‍♀️

You get overly fussed for nothing. If you like the style, just go and enjoy it.

Cartoony is not a derogatory term. It's just a realistic depiction of NMS' looks.
And there is nothing wrong with you liking it and me not liking it. 🤷‍♂️
I even said why i dont like the cartoony looks in NMS - the vegetation and critters look too much like Spore.
The sky, take off and space flight looks like space themed cartoons. Ships too. Space stations. Should i go on?

And that's a nice collection of book covers, i love them (my teenage years happened in the eighties and i grew up with that style of sci-fi art and book covers - mostly from the golden age of our '55-' '75 prints), but that still does nothing to change how NMS looks, so it doesn't really help your cause.
 
You get overly fussed for nothing. If you like the style, just go and enjoy it.

Cartoony is not a derogatory term. It's just a realistic depiction of NMS' looks.
And there is nothing wrong with you liking it and me not liking it. 🤷‍♂️
I even said why i dont like the cartoony looks in NMS - the vegetation and critters look too much like Spore.
The sky, take off and space flight looks like space themed cartoons. Ships too. Space stations. Should i go on?

And that's a nice collection of book covers, i love them (my teenage years happened in the eighties and i grew up with that style of sci-fi art and book covers - mostly from the golden age of our '55-' '75 prints), but that still does nothing to change how NMS looks, so it doesn't really help your cause.

It is used in a derogatory way by most people, which is why it bugs me greatly and I get triggered a bit when it's used.

It's an unnecessarily lazy (and wrong) way to describe an art style that a great deal of effort has gone into creating.

You can like it, or not... either is fine as far as I'm concerned, but at least give it the credit it deserves is all I'm saying. 🤷‍♀️ This isn't about "E: D versus NMS" and it's OK to like both art styles. Both games are unrealistic scifi fantasy, and neither is "wrong". Reducing it to "cartoony" is, IMO.
 
It is used in a derogatory way by most people, which is why it bugs me greatly and I get triggered a bit when it's used.

It's an unnecessarily lazy (and wrong) way to describe an art style that a great deal of effort has gone into creating.

You can like it, or not... either is fine as far as I'm concerned, but at least give it the credit it deserves is all I'm saying. 🤷‍♀️ This isn't about "E: D versus NMS" and it's OK to like both art styles. Both games are unrealistic scifi fantasy, and neither is "wrong". Reducing it to "cartoony" is, IMO.

I'm giving it enough credit.
And it is cartoony (now i did that on purpose to trigger you :D, but you dont really want me to post a picture with a cmdr in front of a sidewinder in a nice EDO sunset and then a picture with a NMS biped in front of his starter ship, do you?)

Also, i'm not the one to push people out of ED and into NMS like other forumites are trying to (on the Frontier forums, mind you) while they're miffed at FD because lack of console news or whatever other reasons.

NMS is not a replacement for Elite, pretty much like Elite is not a replacement for NMS.
I can easily see someone genuinely enjoying both games.
 
I'm giving it enough credit.
And it is cartoony (now i did that on purpose to trigger you :D, but you dont really want me to post a picture with a cmdr in front of a sidewinder in a nice EDO sunset and then a picture with a NMS biped in front of his starter ship, do you?)

That would be up to you, but it would genuinely prove nothing. Both games are depictions of a wholly unrealistic space fantasy... just with different art styles. Both games are animated, much like cartoons are, albeit in real time & based largely on player action. Honestly don't see how you can say NMS is a cartoon but E: D isn't, but I digress...

Also, i'm not the one to push people out of ED and into NMS like other forumites are trying to (on the Frontier forums, mind you) while they're miffed at FD because lack of console news or whatever other reasons.

I'm not doing that either. People play what they want, it's no concern of mine. 🤷‍♀️

On that note, House Flipper Luxury DLC has just been released, so I'm off[*] to play that... ;)

[*] after work...
 
I've thought a lot about buying Rebel Galaxy Outlaw. It looks fun and I heard its soundtrack is very good. I mention RGO because in my opinion it is more cartoonish than NMS. NMS is more colorful than reality and the critters and vegetables are wild looking (to say the least).
WOW, this topic really has energy ... like that battery rabbit; it just keeps on ticking.
 
House Flipper Luxury DLC.

It's a fun, laid back game where you can be creative & not get messy doing it - so has much the same appeal to me as Car Mechanic Simulator which I've also played more hours than I care to count.

The new DLC released yesterday was only supposed to add a few extra items & houses - but they went a bit overboard with it (by their own admission) and added a whole bunch of new gameplay mechanics etc. The developers said they were nervous about releasing it, because they had a lot of issues during development & they're worried that they haven't caught them all, but I played last night for 4 hours straight and never came across anything bad. Still have a lot more to explore with it though.

Currently trying to complete all the 'jobs' in a minimalist way, so I can unlock the houses to buy, and do them up properly. A swimming pool in the living room? Why not...
 
I've thought a lot about buying Rebel Galaxy Outlaw. It looks fun and I heard its soundtrack is very good. I mention RGO because in my opinion it is more cartoonish than NMS. NMS is more colorful than reality and the critters and vegetables are wild looking (to say the least).
WOW, this topic really has energy ... like that battery rabbit; it just keeps on ticking.
Awhile back I bought the original Rebel Galaxy for cheap, and it was surprisingly fun! I still haven't finished it (RG ended up being my "gateway drug" to X4 Foundations), but it remains in my library and I can see going back and playing it more, just to finish the main story.
 
Baldur's Gate III Patch 6 just dropped. Draconic Sorcerer just lifts my mood.

Is that playable now?

It's very expensive for an alpha, so I cough tried an early 'evaluation version', and it was insanely buggy. I decided not to bother with it until it's released... but it's taking an awfully long time...
 
Is that playable now?

It's very expensive for an alpha, so I cough tried an early 'evaluation version', and it was insanely buggy. I decided not to bother with it until it's released... but it's taking an awfully long time...
Still alpha, but they have improved it significantly. Only first chapter too. Playthroughs at this point are more about exploring dialogue options and trying different builds. It's fun but like you said - pricey. I'd personally rate its value higher than Odyssey for sure. Full release is set for late 2022. After I exhaust the sorcerer experience I'll do Far Cry 6.
 
To me, the game is like stepping inside a book cover. "Cartoony" is just such an ignorant description IMO... by people who have no idea or appreciation of art and design. The description needs to die a death. 🤷‍♀️

I'll take NMS' stylistic design & consistency over E: D's frankly disjointed mess any day of the week.

I suppose Monet is rubbish because his work doesn't look photorealistic. :rolleyes:

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Art is 100% subjective as their overly eccentric artisans of the trade. Particularly to those of us ignorant Italian hayseeds who lack the Greek to appreciate the finer aspects of life. :D

Monet was either too broke and/or parsimonious to improve his washed out pastoral scenery palettes by simple upgrade his blasted paint set. Personally think this one's work would've handsomely benefitted from doing a single Fresco apprenticeship on the Italian peninsula somewhere

Unlike Picasso, who was clearly on crack. Nvm the fact that one was a confirmed junkie. Who was typically as high as the stratosphere when he created some of his most infamous popular "works of art". A lot like this one, which reminds me of something a Kindergartener high on acid would create if gifted a paint set. And any unfortunate wall space real estate somewhere in your home...
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Ooof. Coo.... o_O

Just because artists need to wait to become canonized posthumously by the art major/cultural bourgeois elitists of the world, doesn't mean the perceived value of their work is considered valuable to all.

As an engineering major nerd/geek--who's left brain handicap has cursed me to write write upside down for life--I'm doomed with the left brained logical way of seeing the world. So technically, Picasso Cubism should send me into visionary overload -- second only to orgasm. Yet oddly enough it does not? The same optical mind block I get when encountering art work like Heinlein. Or when subconsciously processing visual feedback from "cartoonish" art styles while playing games like NMS and The Outer Worlds. I'm prejudicial for more realism styles from the likes of ED and X4.

My ability to consider Heinlein/Monet/Picasso art on par with (prejudicially self perceived) works of art --- the likes of a Holbein or Rembrandt---is a completely unfeasible mental feat. That vast chasm of faith I would need to leap is too unattainable in both depth and width. :LOL:

Art is 100% subjective.

Monet was too much of a beggar Prince and/or a Scrooge miser to earn my creative appreciation. Picasso was clearly always under the influence of crack. And so will always be a living paradigm of all prejudicial left brain biological reproach. Art styles the likes of Heinlein, NMS and The Outer Worlds will always be on the borderline of reproach where my subjective appreciation is concerned.
 
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Art is 100% subjective as their overly eccentric artisans of the trade. Particularly to those of us ignorant Italian hayseeds who lack the Greek to appreciate the finer aspects of life. :D

Monet was either too broke and/or parsimonious to improve his washed out pastoral scenery palettes by simple upgrade his blasted paint set. Personally think this one's work would've handsomely benefitted from doing a single Fresco apprenticeship on the Italian peninsula somewhere

Unlike Picasso, who was clearly on crack. Nvm the fact that one was a confirmed junkie. Who was typically as high as the stratosphere when he created some of his most infamous popular "works of art". A lot like this one, which reminds me of something a Kindergartener high on acid would create if gifted a paint set. And any unfortunate wall space real estate somewhere in your home...
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Ooof. Coo.... o_O

Just because artists need to wait to become canonized posthumously by the art major/cultural bourgeois elitists of the world, doesn't mean the perceived value of their work is considered valuable to all.

As an engineering major nerd/geek--who's left brain handicap has cursed me to write write upside down for life--I'm doomed with the left brained logical way of seeing the world. So technically, Picasso Cubism should send me into visionary overload -- second only to orgasm. Yet oddly enough it does not? The same optical mind block I get when encountering art work like Heinlein. Or when subconsciously processing visual feedback from "cartoonish" art styles while playing games like NMS and The Outer Worlds. I'm prejudicial for more realism styles from the likes of ED and X4.

My ability to consider Heinlein/Monet/Picasso art on par with (prejudicially self perceived) works of art --- the likes of a Holbein or Rembrandt---is a completely unfeasible mental feat. That vast chasm of faith I would need to leap is too unattainable in both depth and width. :LOL:

Art is 100% subjective.

Monet was too much of a beggar Prince and/or a Scrooge miser to earn my creative appreciation. Picasso was clearly always under the influence of crack. And so will always be a living paradigm of all prejudicial left brain biological reproach. Art styles the likes of Heinlein, NMS and The Outer Worlds will always be on the borderline of reproach where my subjective appreciation is concerned.
As one of the older breed of slide-rule and pocket protector engineers, I understand your outlook.

However we enjoyed such things as guilty pleasures. And, loved Chuck Jones cartoons.

As for art, I'm a dog. :geek:
 
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