What Happens If A Major New Ancient Site is Discovered And...

[Jmanis]

This was @Jmanis thread where he landed on a Coalsack planet then 'discovered' barnacles after the game was updated https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-stones.557446/ IIRC, though the OP isn't incredibly clear.

Yup, that's right.

To be a bit more explicit, FD had all the leadup stuff which eventually namedrops Coalsack, just prior to an update. A whole bunch of commanders, myself included, went over to Coalsack before the update. I landed on a planet for no reason other than "It seemed to be a reasonable place to stop" along with "It's got some ammonia-likes in it".

I did DSS the planet just as a matter of course. Nothing was there. I can't prove that, because who takes a screenshot of an arbitrary empty planet. No Barnacles, POI, nothing.

Then I logged back on, and all this was there (ignore the distances, though I was at most a couple hundred K away from the nearest POI:

So, even though all the "content" was labelleb 3111, none of it was there prior to the update. Note at this point in time, given I DSS'ed the planet and the DSS was capable of finding barnies, it's impossible for me to have missed the barnacles; the bug where POIs wouldn't show came with Odd.

So yeah, ancient site, but only put in the game with the update, barnacles and all.

After all, this sounds like it was just the one time only.

It's not often FD reveal potential locations of content before they launch it, so it's probably the only time this could've happened... I did have reason to go to that planet, but that reason was basically:

• Content probably Thargoid related, so
• Go to a system in the nebula that has ammonia planets, and pick a moon orbiting one of them.

Coalsack is small, so this actually created a large window for success. I can't remember why but a particular system was favoured by most commanders, maybe it was mentioned in the clues by FD or it was just central to coalsack... so in my frustration at all the FCs that had landed there, i picked the second one on my list.... this just happened to be the right one.

As a general rule though, I'd be doubtful if this wasn't how every bit of content played out.... inserted during the update, not before.

 

[DjVortex]

Somewhat related question: Suppose you are in the black, far, far away from the bubble, and just by pure chance you find a point of interest on some random planet in the middle of nowhere, but it's a system that has already been discovered by someone else. How would one check if it's a known site or not?

 

[varonica]

Somewhat related question: Suppose you are in the black, far, far away from the bubble, and just by pure chance you find a point of interest on some random planet in the middle of nowhere, but it's a system that has already been discovered by someone else. How would one check if it's a known site or not?

Well that's hard, any methods you use to try and work it out in game are going to be difficult and all but impossible to verify. One thing for atmospheric planets is, does it have first footfall recorded, because the other player may have been there before they were released, but that's pretty hard to go by. I usually just put the system name into google and see what pops up. I suspect there really is no way to know for certain if nothing appears in searches because you can't prove a negative, a search can only show it has been found, not that it hasn't.

 

[Jmanis]

Somewhat related question: Suppose you are in the black, far, far away from the bubble, and just by pure chance you find a point of interest on some random planet in the middle of nowhere, but it's a system that has already been discovered by someone else. How would one check if it's a known site or not?

Usually, a quick google for something unique about it is sufficient.

 

[DjVortex]

I suppose that if a google search turns out nothing and I make an excited post about "hey, I found a previously undiscovered (such-and-such) site!!!", and someone responds with "it's a site already known for years" I'll just have to endure the embarrassment...

Not that it will ever happen. The chances of randomly visiting a system with a previously undiscovered PoI is (quite literally) astronomically small. The chances that I actually notice the site is even smaller (I'm not in the habit of DSSing landable planets because there's no monetary incentive to do so...) But still, you never know.

 

[varonica]

I suppose that if a google search turns out nothing and I make an excited post about "hey, I found a previously undiscovered (such-and-such) site!!!", and someone responds with "it's a site already known for years" I'll just have to endure the embarrassment...

Yeah that's often how it goes, but just occasionally a CMDR gets lucky, maybe it will be you one day!

 

[DjVortex]

Well, what do you know. Not exactly a site per se, but I was literally in the middle of nowhere, in a previously undiscovered system, approaching a planet with biological signatures in order to do some plant scanning, when I noticed a "non-human signature".

I had seen pictures of these before, but this is the first time encountering one myself.

Could this be an indication that there might be a thargoid site in the same system (or a closeby system), or is this just completely random and unrelated to anything?

 

[varonica]

Well, what do you know. Not exactly a site per se, but I was literally in the middle of nowhere, in a previously undiscovered system, approaching a planet with biological signatures in order to do some plant scanning, when I noticed a "non-human signature".

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I had seen pictures of these before, but this is the first time encountering one myself.

Could this be an indication that there might be a thargoid site in the same system (or a closeby system), or is this just completely random and unrelated to anything?

Thargoid sensors are related to the types of planets found in the system, must be an ammonia world or a gas giant with ammonia based life in the system I believe. They are all over the galaxy, just like us humans!

 

[Shadowsnog]

Thargoid sensors are related to the types of planets found in the system, must be an ammonia world or a gas giant with ammonia based life in the system I believe. They are all over the galaxy, just like us humans!

... and littering

 

[Greasetrap42]

I noticed a "non-human signature"... Could this be an indication that there might be a thargoid site in the same system (or a closeby system), or is this just completely random and unrelated to anything?

Systems with a Gas Giant with Ammonia Life: Landable planets and moons have a reasonable percent chance of Non-Human Signature (Thargoid Sensor).On a system with +10 landable moons you are certain to find at least one. These POI are not persistent, but randomly generated. The chance (and location) they are on a planet gets re-rolled every time you re-open the instance. I have been able to find them in these systems with landable planets 100% of the time throughout the galaxy.