What happens when you log off?

Riverside

Riverside
Wreten said:
How exactly does that punishment work? I'm a newb doing a mining mission. I just logged on to a guy scanning me and telling me I had 15 seconds to give him all my bauxite before he'd blow me up, so I just logged off again. I don't know if I want to play a game that's going to ban my account for something like that.
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When you create a new instance (by logging in in your example) in a ring some random NPCs spawn. Sometimes other miners, sometime police, sometimes pirates as you had. If you have cargo onboard the pirate will ask for some & if you don't comply, will start shooting (ie your ship is in danger).

Logging out in that circumstance will trigger the 'ship in danger' timer, if you wait for that timer to expire you did nothing against the rules (although you could have killed the pirate, run away or given them some cargo).

If you bypass the timer by ending task or some other method that will flag up as an exploit. AFAIK if you do it regularly FDev send you a polite email, if you keep doing it you can get an account ban (probably a few days).
 

Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
Wreten said:
How exactly does that punishment work? I'm a newb doing a mining mission. I just logged on to a guy scanning me and telling me I had 15 seconds to give him all my bauxite before he'd blow me up, so I just logged off again. I don't know if I want to play a game that's going to ban my account for something like that.
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Noone is gonna ban you for petty stuff like that. Just play the game like you want. The 15 seconds is the grace period - and if your adversary already grants it they are already anticipating the log.
 

Northpin

Northpin
Wreten said:
I'm a newb doing a mining mission. I just logged on to a guy scanning me and telling me I had 15 seconds to give him all my bauxite before he'd blow me up, so I just logged off again. I don't know if I want to play a game that's going to ban my account for something like that.
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If you do mining and you log off (or crash) in a ring, after you log back in the said mining ring, the npc pirates will spawn, scan you and demand you drop else they will shoot you.

So, if you cannot kill the said pirates, just boost out of the ring and get into supercruise - sell your mined rocks then get back to mining with nothing else in your cargo than limpets. Waif for the npc to scan and leave, then get back to mining.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
Wreten said:
How exactly does that punishment work? I'm a newb doing a mining mission. I just logged on to a guy scanning me and telling me I had 15 seconds to give him all my bauxite before he'd blow me up, so I just logged off again. I don't know if I want to play a game that's going to ban my account for something like that.
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Obviously you can play as you want, especially in solo/against NPC.

But I strongly recommend you to overcome the obstacles the Game throws at you. The NPCs aren't very difficult to destroy, if you build your ships accordingly and every NPC kill is a step towards Triple Elite ;)
 

MickyG1982

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Wreten said:
How exactly does that punishment work? I'm a newb doing a mining mission. I just logged on to a guy scanning me and telling me I had 15 seconds to give him all my bauxite before he'd blow me up, so I just logged off again. I don't know if I want to play a game that's going to ban my account for something like that.
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Logging off via the menu (for whatever reason) is considered to be legal by the game. It is considered to be unsporting by the player base however, especially in combat.

It's worth noting that the situation you are in when you menu log is one of the things that is reported back to FD by the game & they can look at it if you are a repeat offender in combat or if someone complains about you.

It probably wouldn't lead to a complete ban, however FD can shadowban your account meaning that you'll have no interaction with other players, no effect on the BGS / power play etc.
 

Helmut Grokenberger

Helmut Grokenberger
MickyG1982 said:
Logging off via the menu (for whatever reason) is considered to be legal by the game. It is considered to be unsporting by the player base however, especially in combat.
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It is considered to be unsporting by some individuals in the player base. I bet the majority doesn't care. There are some who want it to be on the same level as task killing, but it is not. It is perfectly fine and within the rules of the game. Task killing is against the rules though.
 

Cmdr Sharky

Cmdr Sharky
What happened when I logged out was, someone filled my docking bay with moon dust.
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Viridian-

Viridian-
If you're hauling 750t of platinum in a T9 to go sell and a lousy npc pirate interdicts you and shoots out your drives because you forgot what you were flying and tried to submit and then boost away, then it's ok to menu log. No one will know your shame. lol
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
Probably doesn't matter, but when I'm exploring I tend to land on some planet or moon before exiting the game. (The status of being landed can even be seen in the login screen.)

In one particular instance, however, when I logged in, my ship wasn't landed on the ground, but hovering above it (as in, flying normally, rather than being on the ground with engines off). I wonder why that is. Maybe for some reason the game couldn't put my ship exactly where it was, the ground was unsuitable for landing, and as a backup it just spawns the ship hovering above the spot instead.
 

Cmdr Sharky

Cmdr Sharky
qqwweerr said:
If you're hauling 750t of platinum in a T9 to go sell and a lousy npc pirate interdicts you and shoots out your drives because you forgot what you were flying and tried to submit and then boost away, then it's ok to menu log. No one will know your shame. lol
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Does that work? I got blown up in my T9 while mining yesterday because I was too slow to use the cargo eject feature.

I would actually feel worse about combat logging to avoid NPCs than I would be to avoid griefers.

If an NPC pirate kills me because I'm too slow to use the game's features, that's my fault for not being able to play the game as designed.

If a person wants to kill me just for kicks, that's someone abusing the game's lack of sufficient consequences for being a psychopath.
 

Viridian-

Viridian-
PhilHibbs said:
Does that work? I got blown up in my T9 while mining yesterday because I was too slow to use the cargo eject feature.

I would actually feel worse about combat logging to avoid NPCs than I would be to avoid griefers.

If an NPC pirate kills me because I'm too slow to use the game's features, that's my fault for not being able to play the game as designed.

If a person wants to kill me just for kicks, that's someone abusing the game's lack of sufficient consequences for being a psychopath.
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I mentioned shame, didn't I? lol I was angry because I forgot to fight the interdiction since I was running around in a fast ship earlier and doubly angry because the first thing this NPC did upon interdicting me was open fire and disable my drives. No dialogue, no cargo scan. It didn't seem fair to me, so I menu logged while the NPC was drilling through my hull. Came back to 40% hull, rebooted the ship to get my thrusters back and made the sale. I don't remember what kind of ship it was but it was definitely a medium ship. If it gave me the opportunity to drop some cargo I'd rather have done that, knowing it could only carry a couple dozen tons away at most.
 
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