What I think we want ...

[zombieapocalypse]

2018?

Nope, 2019 is good for me.

 

[Lunchmoney]

So, instead of posting nonsense as an answer, light us up with your opinions.

It is not a nonsense answer. I was simply asking you to not assume you speak for everyone.

What do you want then? Endless Grinding? Dull and repetitive Gameplay?

I decline to share my opinion. I don't have to, I just ask that you do not assume you post for everyone.


I will just say I am amused to see the OP changed from this:

We want to participate and play!
Not get stuck with outfitting a Ship <NOPE>while undocking cause you cannot afford the rebuy. We want to experiment with various Ship outfits. No one can afford this atm. We want to focus on Guardians, Thargoids and Community Goals! Not getting stuck while farming a Module. We want a fair payouts and not sponsoring Supermights so they can capture another System. We want End Game Content after 3 Years and not getting the same reward as a Player who just started his career. We want carefully executed patches who actually add Content to the Game. Not temporarily removed Core Mechanics. I could continue forever, but nobody got time for that now. Thanks to FDev returning the unbearable Grind Mode. And don’t tell me I could do hauling Missions or something else. I don’t care what I do. I need it to be effective and it has to be fun. Endless Grinding can’t be the purpose of a Game. Rewards and Fun are the Keywords.

To this:

Removing Core Gameplay Mechanics for Weeks is ok? Not fixing Stuff which needs ASAP to be fixed is ok? Not everybody is unemployed. People actually have Real Life’s! But FDev does not want those people to play their game? Hmmm ...

 

[Darth Nerferous]

Fixed it ...

BTW, nobody likes people who don’t want to share their opinions but comment anyways

 

[lokvette]

As a child some 40+ years back I was always told "I want dosn't get".

Over the years I have come to learn that what we want isnt always what we get, be it in any asspect of what makes up modern life.

Somtimes its better to stop lookaround and think well if this is it, (and for now with ED it is what it is and its not going to change anytime soon), and then ask oneself is this what I want out of my gaming time? If you find yourself thinking the game is becoming less enjoyable than it was then it really is time to park up and go and play somthing else, X4 is coming and and who knows when but SC might make it to the light of day.

Ive stopped playing some time back I know I will play again but as it is ED just dosnt tick my gaming box so to speak as of now that be Fallout 4, now I have the mods working ....I might be some time.

 

[Surprised Brony]

The youth of today. Spoon fed and want's everything now.

That describes me perfectly. Minus the wanting everything now. Can't get people to stop coddling me like a child...maybe I still act like one...

*ponders life*

 

[Darth Nerferous]

As a child some 40+ years back I was always told "I want dosn't get".

Over the years I have come to learn that what we want isnt always what we get, be it in any asspect of what makes up modern life.

Somtimes its better to stop lookaround and think well if this is it, (and for now with ED it is what it is and its not going to change anytime soon), and then ask oneself is this what I want out of my gaming time? If you find yourself thinking the game is becoming less enjoyable than it was then it really is time to park up and go and play somthing else, X4 is coming and and who knows when but SC might make it to the light of day.

Ive stopped playing some time back I know I will play again but as it is ED just dosnt tick my gaming box so to speak as of now that be Fallout 4, now I have the mods working ....I might be some time.

Made me smile again.
After all: Why u Heff to be Mad? It’s only Game!

 

[nanite2000]

I liked doing Passengers and Skimmers.

Good for you. Passenger missions are still there, and Skimmer missions will be back soon, after they've re-balanced the payouts.

The best part is that they'll be back to the same state they were before this imbalance, so you'll be able to play them again as they always were.

I mean, that's what you want, right? Because I'm sure you weren't implying that you *only* did passenger and skimmer missions *only* while they were giving *massive* unbalanced payouts.

My Content is gone.

Passenger missions are still there last time I checked. Skimmer missions will be back soon, after they've re-balanced the payouts.

The game provides lots of other activities to participate in. Why not use this opportunity to broaden your horizons and try some other activities in the meantime? You've been playing the game for 3 years - I'm sure you're knowledgeable about what other activities you can participate in.

Also Bounty Hunting needs a rework too.

Can you be more specific?

But for me, balancing means not removing content till it is solved. They should have come up with a solution and then implement it.

You mean while everyone was raking in the billions of credits? That doesn't sound very balanced, and unbalanced gameplay was something you were very much opposed to in one of your previous comments.

Now they stripped a lot of Pilots of their daily routine.

Funny how a lot of those pilots daily routine did not consist of only skimmer missions until this imbalance became known, eh? However did they manage beforehand?

That’s not the way you solve Problems.

What would you have done, in a way that doesn't massively imbalance gameplay?

They just let them disappear and tell us that there will be a fix in „Weeks“. Really?

Did anyone die? Has anyone even been hurt by this decision? Seriously - people who get this upset need to re-evaluate their life priorities.

Skimmer missions were just another generic mission type before this occurred, so let's get some perspective here.

Maybe you are right, I should take a break. This makes me mad.

Good idea.

 

[Darth Nerferous]

Passenger missions are still there last time I checked. Skimmer missions will be back soon, after they've re-balanced the payouts.

Passenger Missions! They are broken! No Payouts!

The game provides lots of other activities to participate in. Why not use this opportunity to broaden your horizons and try some other activities in the meantime? You've been playing the game for 3 years - I'm sure you're knowledgeable about what other activities you can participate in.

Yes, I could. Like I did all previous „rebalances“. But I am tired of it.

Can you be more specific?

Payouts are horrible low.
Belt Ratting: 1 Hour nets you Max 5 Mil. You need at least a Ship worth 100 Mil. Rebuy is a lot more than you can earn. Even with Missions and a better Ship.

Funny how a lot of those pilots daily routine did not consist of only skimmer missions until this imbalance became known, eh? However did they manage beforehand?

You have to differ those Situations. I did not do it in 31 Beta Leonis. I did it elsewhere. And it did only net me 40 Mil/h. Now it’s gone.

What would you have done, in a way that doesn't massively imbalance gameplay?

I would have taken away the Missions just on this specific location. Not the entire Galaxy. Then I would have looked deeper into the Code to find a solution, inform the Community about the changes and implement it with a patch.

 

[Lunchmoney]

Fixed it ...

BTW, nobody likes people who don’t want to share their opinions but comment anyways

You again have posted on behalf of everyone by saying "nobody likes". Please stop that.

 

[Kayweg]

The youth of today. Spoon fed and want's everything now.

That's the same pile of rubbish our dads spouted 40 years ago, or any dads ever for that matter.

 

[Darth Nerferous]

You again have posted on behalf of everyone by saying "nobody likes". Please stop that.

Nobody likes bigmouth and smart aleck‘s! NOBODY! XD

If you got no opinions, you got nothing to say but to annoy the one you adress. You are trying to get attention for what? For nothing?

 

[Darth Nerferous]

BTW, everybody I play with and that’s more than 200 People are annoyed by the way the FDevs handle priorities in Gameplay Mechanics. This Skimmer Thing was there for 3 Years! Now they decided to cut it till they fix it. Like they did with Passenger Missions and previous „Fixes“. Those interventions did nothing but to Strip Content from the Game. And therefore I speak for most of the people.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

We want to participate and play!
Not get stuck with outfitting a Ship<NOPE> while undocking cause you cannot afford the rebuy. Sometimes it’s ok to have a thrill. But we want a choice. We want to experiment with various Ship outfits. Nobody can afford this atm. We want to focus on Guardians, Thargoids and Community Goals! Not getting stuck while farming a Module so you can finally start engineering it over Months. We want balanced payouts and not sponsoring Supermights so they can capture another System with our hard earned money which we need to use for outfitting. We want End Game Content after 3 Years of Gameplay and not getting the same reward as a Player who just started his career. We want carefully executed patches who actually add Content to the Game. Not temporarily removed Core Mechanics. I could continue forever, but nobody got time for that now. Thanks to FDev returning the unbearable Grind Mode.

Removing Core Gameplay Mechanics for Weeks is ok? Not fixing Stuff which needs ASAP to be fixed is ok? Not everybody is unemployed. People actually have Real Life’s! But FDev does not want those people to enjoy their game? Hmmm ...

You can do it all without grinding.

Yes, yes you can.

 

[Han_Zen]

Ladies, let's put the handbags dow please.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I'm not. I seem to have overdrawn my opinion account. :x

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

We want to participate and play!

Then why don't you?

Not get stuck with outfitting a Ship<NOPE> while undocking cause you cannot afford the rebuy.

What does this mean?

Sometimes it’s ok to have a thrill. But we want a choice. We want to experiment with various Ship outfits. Nobody can afford this atm.

Why can't they afford it? I can and I am not rich in the game.

We want to focus on Guardians, Thargoids and Community Goals!

Then why don't you?

Not getting stuck while farming a Module so you can finally start engineering it over Months.

Erm. Not sure I understand what this means?

We want balanced payouts and not sponsoring Supermights so they can capture another System with our hard earned money which we need to use for outfitting.

Again, what does this mean?

We want End Game Content after 3 Years of Gameplay and not getting the same reward as a Player who just started his career.

There is no endgame.

We want carefully executed patches who actually add Content to the Game. Not temporarily removed Core Mechanics. I could continue forever, but nobody got time for that now.

Again, what does this actually mean?

Thanks to FDev returning the unbearable Grind Mode.

Don't like grinding, don't grind. Simple.

Removing Core Gameplay Mechanics for Weeks is ok? Not fixing Stuff which needs ASAP to be fixed is ok? Not everybody is unemployed. People actually have Real Life’s! But FDev does not want those people to enjoy their game? Hmmm ...

What core gamplay mechanics have they removed, I can't see any? What has that got to do with whether you work or not, have a family or the time you play?

It would be nice if your post made some kind of sense to be honest.

 

[Darth Nerferous]

You can do it all without grinding.

Yes, yes you can.

A little grind is ok for me since I am grinding my whole life. Gaming and Real Life is a grind. When a game needs more time than my Job it’s getting a little annoying. That’s not Grinding. That’s draining out the Fun for most of the people. Ain’t nobody got time for 3 Years of their life, to finally get into a ship which isn’t worth the efforts.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

So, instead of posting nonsense as an answer, light us up with your opinions.

1) I want a believeable and consistent (within its own game lore) galaxy.

2) I was under the impression ED was always meant to be the long game starting with a sidewinder and 100 credits (it got boosted to 1000) and scrimping our way up the ladder looking for (and protecting) that short lived gold rush to give us a leg up... and indeed this WAS how the game launched.

IF I feel something enhances point (1) i will applaud it. IF I feel something spoils it i will ask FD if it should be changed.


babelfisch nailed it imo with the following

Saying exploits shouldn't be part of the game because they don't add to a believable galaxy is a perfectly legitimate reason to request a change.

And i say that as someone with a job, house, child and barely 2 or 3 hrs a week to put into the game. if that means i never get to own a cutter, so be it, but i want to have something to strive for.
, even if ultimately i never get there.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

I want a believeable and consistent (within its own game lore) galaxy.

IF I feel something enhances that i will applaud it. IF I feel something spoils it i will ask FD if it should be changed.


babelfisch nailed it imo with the following



And i say that as someone with a job, house, child and barely 2 or 3 hrs a week to put into the game. if that means i never get to own a cutter, so be it, but i want to have something to strive for.
, even if ultimately i never get there.

+1 rep as I can't add it normally.

I have many goals myself, and I doub't I will get to many of them as I don't have time due to family, life etc. But what I do is make sure that I have a great time trying to get to that goal. For me, as long as the journey is great, the end goal becomes unimportant, so it doesn't bother me if it takes 6 months or 3 years or never to get to that goal.

 

[lokvette]

Made me smile again.
After all: Why u Heff to be Mad? It’s only Game!

I understand peoples anger, as tbh I think theres a lot more wrong than there is right with ED its getting better but the missions need a lot more work.etc..

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

What I want is balance!
Boring hauling gets you more money than Bounty Hunting. Etc. How can somebody not see this? And that’s not the only imbalance.

you claim you want balance.... it does not sound like it! (so do i btw)

boring hauling as you put it, needs a 70 million ish ship if you are at the apex and on top of that we have to risk upwards of 10million credits which is not covered by insurance. therefore it HAS to be profitable.

OTOH you can get a very capable bounty hunting ship for 10 million credits, and if you happen to lose your ship you are not risking anything other than your ship (and a few bounty vouchers if you have been tardy in handing them in but that would be your mistake)

of course it is higher risk than trading, but it is still barely any loss if it all goes wrong. of course you can choose to bountyhunt in a 500 million+ credit ship... but that is your choice, you dont HAVE too to be an apex hunter..

I agree it is sad that for now skimmer missions are taken down whilst they are fixed..... but please dont try and tell me you want balance at the same time that you are insinuating that they WERE balanced.