What if... [Separate PvP/PvE Theory]

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

What might help with the PvP/PvE mismatch, is if FD added a load of utility and internal modules, which somehow dedicated PvP ships had to equip. As to what they could be. No idea. But simply to mirror how PvE ships are loaded with things like SRV bays, fuel scoops, KWSs and PDs.

Another terrible idea. Lol


But to be honest, any ship has the means to defend itself from any attack, and escape mostly unharmed.
You just need to choose wisely, if you're limited on module or utility space.
And of course, react to the situation in a timely manner, rather than start rocking in a corner hoping it goes away. Lol

I've only ever lost 1 ship to a PvP attack, and that was 90% down to my over confidence in Point Defence Vs Torpedoes. And 10% down to my gamepad failing at the perfect time. Lol

Every single other attack I've escaped from with little or no effort.

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

*sigh*...you know, what strikes me as comic is that when you strip away the "I hate PvP" banner a lot of players march under, there's actually very little consistency in what they're fighting for.

I've had a lot of flak for defending PvP "because players can do what they want, and ED lets me blaze my own trail, but you're stopping me!". Here on the other hand someone is calling Elite a PvE game (glad you decided), and basically saying all emergent content can go do one if it means PvP was involved, because that shouldn't be part of the game.

Smooth.

As a PvPer, I'll decide whether the game has scope for enjoying PvP, thankyou very much - and if that's a problem with you, you'll need to come up with a better argument than "well ED isn't a PvP game". It's not an anything game outside of "combat", though I could happily point out we got PP, which effectively gives meaning to player conflict. That's far more attention than PvE specific combat ever got...*chuckles*

You know, a lot of PvE players would do better if they just stopped worrying. Yes, players exist that shoot each other. Yes, they are going to do that in the same galaxy as you. No, that doesn't mean you need to get your knickers in a twist.

There is no need to defend PvP - noone wants to take away your toy. There are just people who don't want to play with you. That is all.

 

[StiTch]

There is no need to defend PvP - noone wants to take away your toy. There are just people who don't want to play with you. That is all.

Then there would also be no need to attack it, no?

But that's not my point anyway. My point is we have here a thread about, in essence, what would make both PvPers and PvEers happy at once. I have come in on the thread to state that we can both have the same thing and be happy, but people like looking for arguments. Some people used that as a platform for starting an argument. And so here I still am

 

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Then there would also be no need to attack it, no?

...I have come in on the thread to state that we can both have the same thing and be happy, but people like looking for arguments. Some people used that as a platform for starting an argument. And so here I still am

State all you want - that doesn't make the disagreement disappear.

 

[StiTch]

State all you want - that doesn't make the disagreement disappear.

I see that today you're the pinnacle of reason. "You're wrong because...you're wrong".

Lol, have a good day. If you want to simply contradict someone, I have a much better person for you to have a chat with:

Spoiler

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

I see that today you're the pinnacle of reason. "You're wrong because...you're wrong".

Lol, have a good day. If you want to simply contradict someone, I have a much better person for you to have a chat with:

Spoiler

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Argument_Clinic.png

Sometimes you just have to accept that people disagree and there is no right or wrong about it.

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

Y'know when you host a party for all your friends, and they come over, eat all the food, talk to everyone but you, and then leave you to tidy up?
That's kinda how this thread feels. Lol

 

[Jenner]

Closed at request of OP.