What is and isnt enabled for 2.0 merit grind

Darrack

Darrack
Hanerib said:
Antal of course, I love overcharged Enforcer Cannons.
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Righto then try my spot, HIP 118213 (Stronghold System), Planet 3 has 2x Plat hotspots + Core mining spots, Sell at Lorenz Hub (Large).
The Plat spots are small, pick the one in the centre of the ring (one is on an edge) it gives decent stuff, i mop up Plat, Osmium, Silver, Gold etc and sell it all.

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[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Hi this is interesting stuff. i am totally new to (any) powerplay and on top of that i have been thinking of finally fininshing off my mining T10 build but then the thargoid stuff kicked off.
am i right in saying it matters not who i pledge to, as ultimately all will offer all the rewards if i am fully committed to them? So all i need to worry about is the flavour text of who my commander aligns more to combined with the other non equipement bonuses?

finally.... is there any decay in reputation? ie i often go months without playing, will that matter or can i do a bit of reputiation gain today, then come back in 4 weeks time and carry on from the same point?
thanks.

(it was the reputation decay which put me off PP1)
 

Darrack

Darrack

Rat Race Choir

Rat Race Choir
I ranked up with LYR by selling monazite a ton at a time, was getting 450 merits a unit. Now I have all the toys I'll probably stick to bounty hunting!

And yeah, it was a grindy way to do it but I couldn't bring myself to sell the whole load at once, felt like I was being conned...
 

BelExandor

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Rat Race Choir said:
I ranked up with LYR by selling monazite a ton at a time, was getting 450 merits a unit. Now I have all the toys I'll probably stick to bounty hunting!

And yeah, it was a grindy way to do it but I couldn't bring myself to sell the whole load at once, felt like I was being conned...
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I sold entire loads of platinum 500t at a time without any merit penalty. The only diminishing returns I've seen so far is when selling purchased goods. Those definitely give more merits when sold one ton at a time.

That said, I'm currently loading up the boat with 10k more tons of silver at less than 4k credits/ton. When I get to the unloading phase I'll test the one ton at a time method again to see if it's still true.
 
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Neilski

Neilski
BelExandor said:
That said, I'm currently loading up the boat with 10k more tons of silver at less than 4k credits/ton. When I get to the unloading phase I'll test the one ton at a time method again to see if it's still true.
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I look forward to hearing your results.
However, I'm totally unable to find silver in decent quantities at that price with Inara - fancy sharing whatever magic you invoked to do it? ;)
 

BelExandor

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I also have a few of the PTN carriers bookmarked. I watch where they set up shop and then check prices at those locations. When the price is right, I swoop in.
 

Neilski

Neilski

Markov Chaney

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Neilski said:
Ironically, 2 minutes after I posted, I tried one last time on Inara and this very station popped up, with an age of "3 minutes ago" on it :)
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That's better than the opposite thing where you find a mission wanting Coffee and you go "where did I see that Coffee an hour ago..." and your market data from that Agricultural system an hour ago hasn't yet made it through EDDN.

(inb4: Yes I know you can use EDDiscovery to wade through the history at that point)
 

Rat Race Choir

Rat Race Choir
BelExandor said:
I sold entire loads of platinum 500t at a time without any merit penalty. The only diminishing returns I've seen so far is when selling purchased goods. Those definitely give more merits when sold one ton at a time.

That said, I'm currently loading up the boat with 10k more tons of silver at less than 4k credits/ton. When I get to the unloading phase I'll test the one ton at a time method again to see if it's still true.
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Hmm, I did keep testing in case anything had changed but every time I sold multiples the number of merits was vastly reduced.
 

Daniel Cloudsifter

Daniel Cloudsifter
[VR] Mad Mike said:
Hi this is interesting stuff. i am totally new to (any) powerplay and on top of that i have been thinking of finally fininshing off my mining T10 build but then the thargoid stuff kicked off.
am i right in saying it matters not who i pledge to, as ultimately all will offer all the rewards if i am fully committed to them? So all i need to worry about is the flavour text of who my commander aligns more to combined with the other non equipement bonuses?

finally.... is there any decay in reputation? ie i often go months without playing, will that matter or can i do a bit of reputiation gain today, then come back in 4 weeks time and carry on from the same point?
thanks.

(it was the reputation decay which put me off PP1)
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All powers will offer all the PP modules, which used to be exclusive to each power. So yes, in that case, the power you pick doesn't matter.

However, each power does offer benefits that are unique. At max rank with LYR, I get 100% bonus on exploration data, 15-30% trade dividends (I don't recall off hand), and all refuel/repair/rearm done in LYR systems is free! Arissa still offers a bounty bonus. Archon Delaine will reduce new bounties you incur by 100% if they are acquired in his territory (e.g. should make being a criminal fun and lucrative). And so on.

All powers also offer some equivalent benefits: at rank 100, if not earlier, you will have your rebuy reduced by 100% if killed by another faction. You will also have your rebuy reduced by 100% if you die, for any reason, in your power's systems.

There is no decay of rank any more. Instead there are 100 ranks (plus bonus ranks after that) to grind up. No progress is lost. After rank 100, every rank will earn you a care package (not mini care package) full of engineering mats and 500000 credits.

Finally, each week, you'll be competing with other players in your power on the leadership board. Think of this as a mini-cg that just happens while you play. If you come in the top 25%, you earn 10,000,000 credits. If you come in the top 10%, you earn 50,000,000 credits.

Honestly, there is little reason not to sign up for power play at this point. All the powers offer nice bonuses and there are a lot of ways to earn merits.

Oh, one last bit - in certain stronghold systems (not sure why it isn't all of them) for each power, there are stronghold carriers. If you are aligned with that power, you can dock there and buy everything (like Shinrarta Dehzra) save for Federal and Imperial ships (possibly even those if your power is aligned with them). LYR offers an extra bonus in that, since everything in his systems is 15% cheaper, anyone pledged to him has multiple Shinrarta Dehzras with an extra 5% off!

Important Note: The only catch is you need to choose your pledge power carefully. The old system let you transfer half your rank and merits if you defected. In this system, you just start over from zero. As there are 100 levels (plus all the delicious bonus levels), that isn't something you'll want to reset.
 
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Shurimal

Shurimal
Daniel Cloudsifter said:
All powers also offer some equivalent benefits: at rank 100, if not earlier, you will have your rebuy reduced by 100% if killed by another faction.
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At rank 60. 66% off at rank 28.
Daniel Cloudsifter said:
You will also have your rebuy reduced by 100% if you die, for any reason, in your power's systems.
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IIRC, that's at rank 30 or so.

Anyhoo, this free rebuys for all seems to be designed to directly encourage PvP and otherwise getting into trouble. Just sayin' 🤪
 

Daniel Cloudsifter

Daniel Cloudsifter
Shurimal said:
At rank 60. 66% off at rank 28.

IIRC, that's at rank 30 or so.

Anyhoo, this free rebuys for all seems to be designed to directly encourage PvP and otherwise getting into trouble. Just sayin' 🤪
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Thanks for the extra information. I was going from memory and I've been over rank 100 for a few weeks now. And no, I'm not bragging. I'm only level 147. There are people on the LYR leaders board over rank 400 already.

And yes, I agree the free rebuys are designed to encourage open play. They also encourage you to be more... dangerous... in attacking hostile power NPCs, hack stations, etc.

The only issue I have with it isn't really a PP issue per se but a Crime and Punishment issue. A lot of your weekly tasks will require you to raid multiple sites in hostile, acquisition, and (in some cases) friendly systems. If there are anarchy settlements, they are going to be prioritized because of the lack of bounty - and more importantly, notoriety - and you won't lose rep with that faction as fast as normal ones. The bounties and reputation loss are penalty enough; you shouldn't be gaining notoriety for this (or it should be at some incredible rate of sick completely wiped settlements before you hit 1 notoriety).

Why is the notoriety an issue? Well, the place you might need to turn stuff in for these tasks might also be hosting the same faction(s) you just raided; so then your wanted, can't turn yourself in to clear it, and can't access the contact until the notoriety decays. Further, while notorious, if you do any mischief in other systems - like hacking the station adverts, which is only a fine (in non-allied territory only; there it's a repair and completely legit) - now your locked out of that stations facilities. You can't pay off the fines until the notoriety decays.

So plan your criminal activity accordingly. Or pledge to Archon Delaine. I bet his followers don't have to deal with this after they hit the rank with the 100% bounty reduction (in his space). So tempting to switch... :)
 

Daniel Cloudsifter

Daniel Cloudsifter
Koma Pahu said:
Oh do! It’s awesome over here 🙂
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Is it? I was wondering how much fun it would be. Does the 100% reduction also prevent notoriety from being applied? That would be sweet.

Tempting thought it is, I'm going to stick with LYR for awhile. I still want to go on a long exploration mission and get that 100% bonus on the data.
 

Straha Yeagar

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Daniel Cloudsifter said:
Is it? I was wondering how much fun it would be. Does the 100% reduction also prevent notoriety from being applied? That would be sweet.

Tempting thought it is, I'm going to stick with LYR for awhile. I still want to go on a long exploration mission and get that 100% bonus on the data.
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As an LYR member myself, I deal with the notoriety issue by having decent jump ranges in all of my ships and when I get hit with notoriety, I just pop out on near bubble exploration jaunt until it decays, hit an Interstellar Factors to clear all the fines and bounties, then turn in what ever needs to be turned in.
 
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