What is the difference between the high end joysticks

Build quality.

I got my CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle used, and they feel like new. I expect to use them for the next decade, and for them to stay as crisp and precise as they are now.
 
The HOTAS Warthog sure is pretty...

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I received mine yesterday, and I am very impressed by the quality of the product everything in metal.
It weight makes that it is very stable on the desk. The movements are very fluid and precise.
In brief it the best HOTAS that I had in my hand, No regret on my purchase even if the price is high ($560 CAD) .
The beauty and the quality fast lead to forget this crazy purchase.
But ED deserves what is best.
 
I thought I would revive this thread as I am having "Joystick Issues"...sob!

I purchase a Saitek X52 Pro for Alpha 1.1 so I have been using it for about 6 months.

I have been really impressed with it and it worked very well with ED.

The Saitek programming software was a little flaky, but I used it quite successfully to map everything to keyboard keys and then defined those keys in a Custom Keybind in ED.

Unfortunately just before Beta 1 was released, the joystick started behaving oddly and the lights started flashing; eventually the joystick did not work at all.

I don't know what caused it; there was an enormous thunderstorm...

The weak link with the X52 Pro is the PS2 6-Pin cable between the Throttle and the Joystick. I have ordered two replacements and am anxiously waiting for them to arrive so I can check whether the old cable is the cause of the problem.

As I am so bad at flying with keyboard and mouse; I have not tried out Beta 1 at all yet; so I am getting very frustrated reading about everyone's exploits. :mad:

If it is, great I will have a spare cable; if not then I will have to buy a new Joystick !!

The choice will either be an X55 or a Warthog.

Both look great, but I am a bit leery about getting another Saitek.

Hopefully the new cable will solve the problem.
 
The choice will either be an X55 or a Warthog.

Both look great, but I am a bit leery about getting another Saitek.

Numerous reports such as yours regarding Saitek products is why I chose the CH Throttle and Fighterstick over the X-52 Pro. CH products seem to enjoy an almost universal reputation of solid no frills quality and durability. Also the Fighterstick does not have twist rudder, which for me was a plus - I don't really like twist rudder sticks. And as I couldn't afford the Warthog....

I am definitely not disappointed. So smooth.
 
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I've only had it a few weeks but I love the warthog.
Metal build apart from the throttle.
Loads if lovely old school flick switches.
 
I thought I would revive this thread as I am having "Joystick Issues"...sob!

I purchase a Saitek X52 Pro for Alpha 1.1 so I have been using it for about 6 months.

I have been really impressed with it and it worked very well with ED.

The Saitek programming software was a little flaky, but I used it quite successfully to map everything to keyboard keys and then defined those keys in a Custom Keybind in ED.

Unfortunately just before Beta 1 was released, the joystick started behaving oddly and the lights started flashing; eventually the joystick did not work at all.

I don't know what caused it; there was an enormous thunderstorm...

The weak link with the X52 Pro is the PS2 6-Pin cable between the Throttle and the Joystick. I have ordered two replacements and am anxiously waiting for them to arrive so I can check whether the old cable is the cause of the problem.

As I am so bad at flying with keyboard and mouse; I have not tried out Beta 1 at all yet; so I am getting very frustrated reading about everyone's exploits. :mad:

If it is, great I will have a spare cable; if not then I will have to buy a new Joystick !!

The choice will either be an X55 or a Warthog.

Both look great, but I am a bit leery about getting another Saitek.

Hopefully the new cable will solve the problem.

Always worth reinstalling the drivers had the flashing lights before and driver reinstall cured it. Check your USB ports are not going to power save mode as well via device manager oh and don't use a USB3 port.
That's all I can think of first thing this morning ;)
 
I have a 10 year old Logitech joystick I think I paid like 60 for it. What is the difference between, a cheap joystick like that, and say a 150 dollar x52. Is there a noticeable difference when playing elite. It's the only game I would be using a joystick for.but if there is a huge difference I may get one.
Thanks for any help.

Well, mainly, it's just a thing of taste and money. Why do some drive only japaneese cars, other only german... both cars going from point A to B, so what?!
Same for joystick. I've got the TM Warthog one. Why? I had others before, 3D Sidewinder from MS, and other 'cheap' ones. At a time I was fed up with them, just wanted something less 'plastic' like... the TM WTseemed to fit all my needs, that time I could afford it too, so... here I went!

Now it would be wrong saying that I've got any advantage in front of a guy who bought his joy 50 bucks, none sense. It all depends on you , and you only.

More buttons? MAYBE.... but, helpless, as I'm on VoiceAttack, so more buttons isn't the question here neither.

As I said, as long the person is happy with, he might try an expensive one, and choose afterwards, depening on his interest in it.
 
I have a 10 year old Logitech joystick I think I paid like 60 for it. What is the difference between, a cheap joystick like that, and say a 150 dollar x52.

The technology of the logitech is older than that of X52, thus less elaborated certainly. It seems normal, for the technology products
 
I have a 10 year old Logitech joystick I think I paid like 60 for it. What is the difference between, a cheap joystick like that, and say a 150 dollar x52. Is there a noticeable difference when playing elite. It's the only game I would be using a joystick for.but if there is a huge difference I may get one.
Thanks for any help.

It's probably worth mentioning that $150 is *not* a "high-end" stick, especially if you're counting HOTAS setups. That's the lowish-end of midrange.

I have an X-65F, which was $400 and worth every penny. And there are much more expensive sticks out there.

But what did I get for my $400? I got a throttle with a great feeling, smooth throw. Lots of metal construction. The surfaces are nicely textured, and have a cool, metallic feeling to the touch. There are lots of nice, clicky buttons and hat switches, which are very important if you take the plunge into VR since you can't see a keyboard and will have to bind everything. The stick itself is force sensitive (as in, it doesn't move and detects pressure). This makes it extremely accurate and not at all prone to floppy overshoot like regular joysticks. There are mounting holes to allow me to securely fasten the throttle and stick to things. There is a modular system to let me add additional controls my throttle quadrant. (MFDs, extra buttons, a numpad, etc.) The throttle has a mini-joystick on it which is fantastic for analog thruster control. The throttle is split, allowing me to control left and right engines individually in games which support that.

You get a lot. You might not need a lot. But the stick is the primary means of interacting with these sorts of games, and you're going to spend a lot of time with your hand on it. A high-end stick can just make the whole experience more enjoyable.
 
Thanks for your advice.

I did try reinstalling the drivers and try different USB ports.

Nothing worked.

I also may have bent a pin in the PS2 cable which probably did not help, while checking the connection.

My new cable shipped on 29/07 but has not got to me yet.

I much prefer the idea of two USB Connections to the PC rather than one.

What does the Warthog use to connect the throttle and stick?
 
The WH has separate USB cables for the throttle and joystick. It doesnt have a twist so it needs to be used with rudder pedals.
 
I don't have a set of rudder pedals yet so at the moment I am using a conveniently placed rocker switch on the WH throttle just beneath my left thumb for the rudder. It's surprisingly effective even if it is digital.
 
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I received mine yesterday, and I am very impressed by the quality of the product everything in metal.
It weight makes that it is very stable on the desk. The movements are very fluid and precise.
In brief it the best HOTAS that I had in my hand, No regret on my purchase even if the price is high ($560 CAD) .
The beauty and the quality fast lead to forget this crazy purchase.
But ED deserves what is best.

Congrats, it's an excellent choice. While you're at it, you might as well give a try to DCS:A10C. This stick and that simulation are bound toghether for life. If you didn't know already, the Warthog stick and HOTAS are exact replicates of the actual A10c "warthog" controls (hence the old school switches). And DCS:A10C is the most accurate and complex sim ever for that plane (a study sim).

The only drawback is indeed that since it is a fidel replicate, there is no Z axis (rudder). But in Elite: Dangerous, rudder is not a big deal, you might just as well assign it to one the many hats.

Even if you play any DCS plane module, rudder in a plane is not so essential. you WILL need rudder pedals however, if you are going to fly a helo module.
 
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