Hardware & Technical What is the optimal placement for HOTAS controllers?

I put my Saitek HOTAS on a couple bar stools, and the joystick is a little too low, but my desk is a little too high, and both are uncomfortable. HOTAS placement is relative to how high the seat is, so there's no way to give a definitive answer in inches or cm that'll be right for everyone. But how do I find the optimal placement of a HOTAS? I'll probably just want to make a stand myself or just find a couple cheap adjustable stools to put the controllers on, instead of buying something.
 
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