Just curious, how much time do you have available to play? I'm in no way accusing you or anyone else of this, but I've always had the sneaking suspicion the main types of people in favor of such models are "whales" and would be "whales" and mostly free players that don't mind a few whales supporting the upkeep of their game.
What is your view on microtransactions for credits?
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You do not need any credits to enjoy your game. I'm currently on 100k from minus 5k and enjoying myself just fine.
Nah. Although I think a $5 Insurance charge would be fine. I don't agree with buying credits straight up. But if you wanted to help fund the game with real cash every time you died, that may be more acceptable. Even the richest of the whales would still need to save and work towards their bigger ships.
There are 2 reasons it would be worse.
1. It provides an incentive to not play the game - absolutely the reverse of what we want to happen.
2. It would increase the credit supply in a manner similar to selling credits without generating the revenue stream to Frontier from their sale.
If they ever do implement something like this, I think something similar to star citizen is a good idea where there is a daily cap and overall cap of how many credits can be bought by a single players. Make the daily cap like 100k and the max cap to be around 5 million or so, that would not make things insane as it will mostly help newer players looking to bypass the starting frustration of using a sidewinder.
Get back to your world of tanks
It has a very poor user rating. Which means they are probably loosing out on a lot of potential customers and not gaining many new ones. Most of the complaints are about it being a pay to win cash grab...
So next time the same studio need to release a new game to keep the money rolling in, people will remember and avoid it. That is when the financial problems start. I have worked in the games industry, things can go wrong very quickly because of stuff coming back to bite
It is literally impossible to pay to win in League of Legends. You can pay to unlock different champions (which are generally balanced and not 'upgrades'), and you can pay for cosmetic enhancements. You cannot buy anything that gives you an advantage over other players.
My point is that micro-transactions do not necessarily equate to P2W. I'm not sure if P2W even means anything in this game.
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I've said this before. A great feature about ED is that you can have a great time in the starter ship. You don't *have* to grind your way to a bigger ship.
If you're worried about pvp, you can have the best PKing ship in the game for about 5mil (which most people can earn with a month or so of casual play).
Let's say you spend real money and get 1 billion cr. All that will get you is a slower ship that's easier for people to hit and has sky high repair bills. You also loose all the fun of progressing through the other ships in the game.
On that basis I'm inclined to say let people buy all the cr they want. My only concern is it will impact the longevity of the game for everyone.
If you're worried about pvp, you can have the best PKing ship in the game for about 5mil (which most people can earn with a month or so of casual play).
Let's say you spend real money and get 1 billion cr. All that will get you is a slower ship that's easier for people to hit and has sky high repair bills. You also loose all the fun of progressing through the other ships in the game.
On that basis I'm inclined to say let people buy all the cr they want. My only concern is it will impact the longevity of the game for everyone.
Modern Pay To Win designed to sell opportunity to catch up another players faster. Because race did not stop P2W make difference between players. Best example is world of tanks wich is 100% P2W game wich did not sell anything that can't be obtained with regular gameplay.
Nothing weird in fact that players from a p2w MMO exists here.
Nothing weird in fact that players from a p2w MMO exists here.
Why is it "everyone" wants to change the game mechanics one way or another, when the design ethos and mechanics are clear from the outset... Its a game that allows plays to play the way they want by earning credits, be it buy trading or by free-booting.
I play the game as intended by the designers, when they either change or modify the game as they have said they want to as ED universe develops I will then, have to decide if it is still the game i want to play. However I buy and play each game as it is designed, not on how I would design it.
I play the game as intended by the designers, when they either change or modify the game as they have said they want to as ED universe develops I will then, have to decide if it is still the game i want to play. However I buy and play each game as it is designed, not on how I would design it.
There are so many better options to generating revenue by microtransactions than to start messing with the game balance. Changing the game balance and the advantages a player can achieve by means that are outside the games intended mechanics is by its very nature speculative.
I would much much rather see FD make an actual product that can be bought. For example ship voice packs or fireworks.
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I would much much rather see FD make an actual product that can be bought. For example ship voice packs or fireworks.
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But those people buying those huge ships ruin the economy. That trade route you just found? Somebody could easily get a T9 and diminish it. Making these ships fairly unattainable keeps it stronger. Those bounty hunter areas? Well, anybody with a credit card now has an ASP and is shooting everything in sight. Playing Solo? Your trade route is still being diminished by that guy in a T9 he just bought.
Insurance, I've already mentioned, wouldn't have a problem with this. But to just outright buy credits? Nah. I'd personally love to keep the whole option out but they'll need to make money somehow, and in-app purchases are the easy way to do this.
I just hope they add non game altering stuff like more paint jobs, maybe even ship 'designs' where you still fly an ASP but it looks a bit different, just the model has changed. Sort of like outfits and weapon skins in Guild Wars 2.
But as long as the economy is affected by all players, paying for the better trading ships is just a big 'no' to me.
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That quote you cited is from the very earliest days of planning and there was considerable debate about it leading to FD dropping that, replacing "everything purchasable with credits and credits purchasable for real money" with the current state where cosmetic enhancements can be purchased for real money but not credits and the only way to get credits is in-game.
If FD throws out microtransactions for credits I'm immediately turning pirate and attacking every commander in anything worth more than a couple million credits. Can't wait to see all of the new Anaconda and Type 9 pilots on the forums screaming that griefers just cost them $40 real cash by hunting them down when they couldn't afford the insurance.
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.... Seriously.... Who thinks this is a good idea besides the people who will be using it to provide themselves entertainment at everyone else's expense?
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.... Seriously.... Who thinks this is a good idea besides the people who will be using it to provide themselves entertainment at everyone else's expense?
I have no idea what to think about this. I'm generally opposed to credits for real life cash. But on the other hand I would buy myself a few if I could.
To quote Michael Brookes on the subject
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A fair question. I'll answer that and a couple others since we're here
I have limitless time available to play. I'm retired, with an unimpressive fixed income (no whale here!). I would not be in the market to buy ships or credits. I have been playing 4 - 6 hours a day I'd estimate.I'm simply uninterested in other peoples money or possessions, in real life or a game. So I guess you can put me in the "don't mind a few whales supporting the game" slot.
Me. Actually I'm not saying it's a good or bad idea, just that I don't care.
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