What is your view on microtransactions for credits?

No pay to win advantage here please

It would be fine to pay for cosmetics and I'm sure many other nice-to-have things that don't bring advantage
 
If they start selling credits for cash, I'll certainly stop even considering getting any future expansions. I may or may not quit playing altogether, but I'd certainly never step foot into Open.
 
No pay to win advantage here please

It would be fine to pay for cosmetics and I'm sure many other nice-to-have things that don't bring advantage

Is it pay to win though ?

I buy credits to spend in the game to buy the same ships and equipment as you. Have I just done a pay to win there or just bought credits to be able to have fun in a game I enjoy ?

I would understand this statement if there were special items to buy on the store like better shields or ammo or stronger armour. Then it is pay to win, but to be able to buy regular items in a game then it is not pay to win. Yes I could fly around in a Anaconda but as it has been proven many times flying one of those is not a win all situation ship.
 
I see nothing wrong with some people paying money for something that can be acquired by playing the game. I only have issues with it when the game is made to milk players on purpose.
 
Tell that to EVE Online, now going on 11 years on the same subscription model it started with.

And since Nov 2008? selling credits for cash in the form of Plex.

Then again CCP were quite astute, have yet another massive purge against the botters and RMT'ers. Then before they could recoup introduce your own form of monetising RMT.
 
I would say no as a player

If I had shares in the game I would be tempted

however I would not spend my real money on credits
 
If it helps the devs put all the features in the game that were discussed in the threads that are now placed in the dev archives.... of which it only seems 33% have been implemented so far... then by all means, make my game better. I'll still kill the suckers in the anaconda with my cobra so they can fund the game further.
 

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I just don't know how I feel about this... I'm so stupid that I'd probably "buy" an anaconda only to realise that I have nothing now to work towards! I think they would need to implement far more content to make this a practical option. I'd also like "buy to win" accounts not permitted to enter the Iron Man Galaxy if and when it ever emerges.
 
As much as you have a valid point about it not affecting others... the thing with this kind of micro transaction means that it will set the game on a dark path.

Apart from reputation, the game only rewards your activities with credits.
By selling credits for real money, what you are doing is effectively stripping out the only in game reward for activities, and replacing it with a "Spend money to get reward now" advert.

In fact, if you take that... you get rewards for completing missions and other activities. If you are able to straight up buy the reward without any interaction in the game, wouldn't that define the game as "pay to win"?
I mean, most people define pay to win as a way to gain an unfair advantage over other players.
But if you think outside of that... you are effectively paying to win your single player experience by buying the reward straight up.

It would turn the game into a mobile-like game. Where even the single player games offer you to just straight out buy in game credits, which you should be rewarded for completing activities.
These mobile games are defined as pay to win, even with no multiplayer, so the same would also apply to ED, if it were to ever happen.

And from my own subjective point of view, if it were to ever happen, I would simply sell my joystick, uninstall the game and never touch it again.
And I'm fairly certain, I wouldn't be the only one to never play the game again.
 
As the majority of the people will argue that it doesn't matter what another person has in this game in respect to you, would it be fair to say that buying credits for real cash doesn't affect anyone at all?

There is no "win" in this game, hence it wouldn't be pay to win.

There's PVP possible ... this is an utterly terrible idea. It would instantly ruin the game (as all uRMT does).
 
Then the only way to stop it is:

Reduce the Farmers ability to advertise:

No global chat ever...

No local chat unless grouped/winged up.

No PM'ing in game.

Remove the Farmers ability to trade:

No Player to Player trade in any form, credits/modules or anything.

If you don't do the above then waste money and resources meant for developing the game in a fruitless attempt to monitor and ban suspect accounts. And deal with the fallout for innocent accounts getting banned and the waves of forum posts complaining the game is unplayable due to every USS and belt in the core systems being constantly farmed 24/7. Multiplayer comms being a waste of time as they just consist of:

Welcome to SOL Local Chat said:
CMMDR sxcz: "Buy GOLD NOW!!! <ChEEp priCes Guranteed> WWW.GOLDMARKET4Games.COM"

CMMDR bdbfyiefbr: "Buy GOLD NOW!!! <ChEEp priCes Guranteed> WWW.GOLDMARKET4Games.COM"

CMMDR wfoeuhwnf: "Buy GOLD NOW!!! <ChEEp priCes Guranteed> WWW.GOLDMARKET4Games.COM"

CMMDR Newby: Hello can anyone help me take down this Conda for a mission?

CMMDR bdbfyiefbr: "Buy GOLD NOW!!! <ChEEp priCes Guranteed> WWW.GOLDMARKET4Games.COM"

CMMDR Gufff: "Buy GOLD NOW!!! <ChEEp priCes Guranteed> WWW.GOLDMARKET4Games.COM"

CMMDR Newby: Anyone, I need help with a conda....

CMMDR sxcz: "Buy GOLD NOW!!! <ChEEp priCes Guranteed> WWW.GOLDMARKET4Games.COM"

CMMDR Newby: Help pleaseee.....


As long as the farmer is going to make more than £40 on average from each account then it's worth his while.

And all FD's efforts to combat it will do, is drive up the cost of Credits making the market more lucrative for the farmers.

I know it sucks, but that's the reality of online games.
 
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As much as you have a valid point about it not affecting others... the thing with this kind of micro transaction means that it will set the game on a dark path.

Apart from reputation, the game only rewards your activities with credits.
By selling credits for real money, what you are doing is effectively stripping out the only in game reward for activities, and replacing it with a "Spend money to get reward now" advert.
That's a big problem with the game if the only thing it has going for it is endless grind for credits.
 
Count my answer as HELL NO. It would just ruin the game and drive away the majority of players. If the devs need money they can just provide more 'vanity items' like paint jobs for sale, it's been demostrated that people are willing to pay to just show themselves.
 
Buy credits? NO
Buy cosmetic items for ship? YES - not because I particularly care about my ship being all different colours, but I want to actively support Frontier in this game and they need a revenue stream or they will be forced to pull the game.
 
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